Leave it to Dr. Helen – psychologist, right-wing blogger, friend of A Voice for Men – to come up with what has got to be the most transparent attempt to distract public attention from the obvious parallels between the misogyny of spree killer Elliot Rodgers and the misogyny of the Men’s Rights movement she supports.
In a blog post on PJ Media, she suggests half-seriously that “If Pick-Up Artists Are Guilty,[of inspiring Elliot Rodger] Then So Are the Feminists.”
The good Doctor starts by accusing Slate’s Amanda Hess of blaming pickup artists for Elliot’s rampage. Her proof? Several passages from Hess in which Hess makes very clear that she is not blaming PUAs – or the anti-PUAs at PUAhate — for the deaths in Santa Barbara, or even for Rodger’s misogyny.
Dr. Helen then quotes eminent mental health expert “JudgyBitch,” who wrote of the case:
The fact is that Elliot’s outburst does indeed highlight an issue of central importance to the MHRM – the inadequate, almost non-existent treatment of mental health problems for young men.
Well yes, speaking as someone who’s been dealing with depression most of my life, I agree that mental health services could be improved for young men. And old men. And everyone else.
What difference this would have made in Elliot Rodger’s case, though, is unclear. Though he’s being routinely described in the media and in online discussions of the case as “mentally ill,” “freaking nuts,” a “deranged lunatic,” and numerous other variations on this theme, we don’t actually know much for sure about his brain chemistry; claims that he “suffered from extreme paranoia and heard voices” haven’t been confirmed.
In any case, Rodger himself wasn’t suffering from a lack of mental health support. He had been treated by several therapists, and was seeing a psychiatrist. He chose not to take the meds he was prescribed.
What we do know is that Rodger was a young man driven by intense, murderous misogyny, and by what sociologists Rachel Kalish and Michael Kimmel call “aggrieved entitlement” (pdf here), a personality trait he shares in common with a number of young spree killers in recent years. It’s also pretty much a default personality trait for Men’s Rights activists – but we’ll get to that in a moment.
First, let’s return to Dr. Helen, who’s just getting to the main point of her post: The Blaming of the Feminists.
Perhaps it is the feminists and their supporters who block funding and education going to boys’ and men’s issues that are to blame. Case in point? Warren Farrell tried to give a talk in Toronto about suicide in young men and other topics and was accosted by nasty feminists who did not want him to speak.
Now, I don’t support shutting down lectures of those I disagree with, and I think the protestors who shut down Farrell’s lecture not only acted in an unprincipled way but also, unintentionally, provided the Men’s Rights movement with the greatest recruitment tool it’s ever had.
That said, the protesters didn’t shut down Farrell’s lecture because they opposed mental health funding for men and boys. They shut it down because Farrell has, in the past, offered creepy apologias for date rape and for incest – including the sexual abuse of underage boys and girls by their parents.
Indeed, in a notorious interview he gave about his research exploring the supposed “positive” side of incest in the 1970s, Farrell told Penthouse magazine that most of the boys he studies actually enjoyed being abused by – sorry, participating in incest with – their mothers.
The author summarized Farrell’s claims:
Mother-son incest represents 10 percent of the incidence and is 70 percent positive, 20 percent mixed, and 10 percent negative for the son. For the mother it is mostly positive. Farrell points out the boys don’t seem to suffer, not even from the negative experience.
So, yeah, the man Dr. Smith is holding up as a compassionate hero for boys, the man who essentially invented the Men’s Rights movement we know and don’t love today, has argued publicly that boys not only aren’t harmed by sexual abuse, but that most of them like it.
I’m not sure the men and boys of the world need this brand of “compassion.”
But this is not the only thing about Dr. Helen’s post that is deeply hypocritical.
Rodger’s murders were clearly driven by “aggrieved entitlement.” He believed he deserved a “beautiful blonde girlfriend,” and that the world had wronged him by not giving him one. And so he set out to take his “retribution” upon the girls who had rejected him – as symbolized by the “blonde sluts” of the sorority he targeted – and upon the world at large.
As Kalish and Kimmel write,
What transforms the aggrieved into mass murderers is also a sense of entitlement, a sense of using violence against others, making others hurt as you, yourself, might hurt. aggrieved entitlement inspires revenge against those who have wronged you; it is the compensation for humiliation. Humiliation is emasculation … For many men, humiliation must be avenged, or you cease to be a man.
Like virtually all spree killings by young men driven by “aggrieved entitlement,” Rodger’s rampage was also a suicide; he ended it with a bullet in his own head. Kalish and Kimmel would define this as “suicide by mass murder,” a way for aggrieved young men to use their own suicides to reaffirm their masculinity and take revenge upon their supposed tormenters.
The trouble is, even while Dr. Helen condemns Rodger’s murders, and tries to blame feminists for them, she herself has joined many other Men’s Rights activists in glorifying a man who attempted something very much like a “suicide by mass murder” himself.
I am talking, of course, about Thomas Ball– an angry MRA, estranged father and admitted child abuser – who several years ago set himself aflame on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse, leaving behind a manifesto urging fellow MRAs inspired by his suicide to start firebombing courthouses and police stations, acts of terrorism which he admitted quite plainly could lead to deaths.
So what did Dr. Helen have to say about this manifesto, which among other things contained helpful tips on how to make effective Molotov cocktails? On her blog, she waxed poetic:
His statement is not the ramblings of a madman, it is the mission of a warrior in some sense. …
Mr. Ball’s death should serve as a wake-up call to the men and their supporters in this country to continue to fight for equal rights in the area of marriage and family law.
Like Rodger, Thomas Ball was driven by a sense of aggrieved entitlement. Like Rodger, Thomas Ball hoped for a “Day of Retribution” in which his enemies would die violent deaths.
Unlike Rodger, he did not kill anyone else himself; instead, he hoped that others would do the killing for him. But the impulse behind Rodger’s manifesto was largely the same. He sought to fight what he considered a grave “injustice” through violence.
And Men’s Rights activists turned him into a martyr. A Voice for Men posted his manifesto – complete with its calls to firebomb government buildings – in its “activism” section for several years; it was finally removed only after the Boston Marathon bombings brought media attention back to the issue of domestic terrorism. The theme song for AVFM’s flagship radio show contains an “invocation” celebrating Ball as a fallen hero and declaring that “his death will not go in vain.”
No, the Men’s Rights movement didn’t cause Rodger’s rampage; there’s no evidence that he ever even came into contact with it, though he was clearly steeped in misogynstic online subcultures like those of PUAhate. But there are a frightening number of MRAs who think a lot like Rodger. And that is far more worrying.
I’ve heard a lot of absurd theories about the decline of Occupy, but this one takes the fucking cake.
@Zolnier
Womanism isn’t synonymous with feminism, although many of its underlying principles are similar. It is best defined as a strain of women’s liberation thought whose main impetus is the criticism of white feminism by women of color wish to articulate their unique intersecting experiences of racism, sexism, colonialism, etc.
Oh, and it should be stressed that womanism is a woman-of-color-only ideology. White women can’t call themselves womanists because that’s appropriation.
Brz’s discussion of OWS is reminding me of this discussion.
Yep, maybe if someone had told him how full of “aggrieved entitlement” and white hot rage he was he wouldn’t have been that stubborn and accepted to be treated like a criminal because he once slapped his daughter three times. BTW, he didn’t thought he was justified, he said that it was a mistake.
The guy isn’t my hero but I empathize with him.
I’m just so amazed at how Brz can completely twist the context of a discussion to fit his own pretentious manarchist theories.
Someone explain to me why so many men are so desperate to sympathise or identify with brutal misogynist murderers and entitled child abusers.
It’s like they want to put a big flashing sign over their head saying “I am a bad person and a potential violent abuser, stay away from me”.
Of course you do.
Comparing revolution to the woes of abusers, classy. If there’s one thing that characterizes revolutionary movements, is that they rarely use child abuse as a rallying symbol. The Sickle and Hammer were not depicted in a kid’s back for instance.
I think it’s a deflection so that they don’t have to look at any questionable behavior on their parts.
“Manarchist”? Lol, you guys are deeply ignorant but you sure have a great creativity for buzzwords.
You’re the ones defending the system as it is, the one who’ll want to bring down this system will fight you but you can pretend that you are overthrowing systems of power by parroting what your professors teach you in your university you pay dozen of thousands of dollars to attend.
@historophilia
Right? Why can’t they empathize with the child that he slapped because she licked his hand? Why is the fact that he one hit her once such a big sticking point – should we give all abusers one freebie or something before we consider them dangerous?
Yeah, being calling names by you guys is a good signal that I might be good at being a decent human being. It’s not sufficient though.
lol! I didn’t know you were a comedian as well
It’s not actually that hard to notify the court that you’ve lost your job and are no longer able to pay child support. It’s a hell of a lot easier than setting yourself on fire and writing a manifesto calling for terrorism, Jesus Christ.
Is it okay for, a white man, to admire certain WoC who are womanists and the ideas they’ve created? I’m thinking yes, but I wanted to be sure.
To give an example: I think the author of *** Lair is an amazing person, and that her ideas are brilliant. I took out the first word because I don’t want to risk sending any more abusive people her way. She gets so much shit already… 🙁
Personally, I prefer Kropotkin, but anyway.
Now, frankly, I do think the court system is corrupt, largely useless, and more often used maliciously by those with the power to influence it, but consider the specific details of this case – His wife initiated divorce proceedings and he hit his child hard enough to cause bleeding. Bad, stupid, undeniably wrong but apparently out of character, according to his wife’s testimony to the courts. He was found not guilty, granted unsupervised visitation rights for his son and told to go to an anger management course if he wanted the same for his daughters.
And then proceeded to not do that for 10 years, refusing to deal with the courts in any way, shape or form, beyond filing a suit with Monadnock Family Services for what he considered improper conduct on their behalf in telling his wife to call the police or they would (Apparently they get a fee from the courts for each case referred. See; corruption). He never attempted to seek help, never used his situation to call attention to what he perceived as the problem in the media, nothing. He did nothing but insist the courts were wrong, and refused to meet their requirements.
There’s pride, there’s sticking to your principles, and then there’s utterly failing to bow to the practical requirements of the situation. It’s crap and wrong, and I’d like to see the system taken down entirely and replaced, but he didn’t do ANYTHING to help himself, and then set himself on fire, and encouraged others to firebomb court buildings. That is not the action of a hero, or a martyr, it’s the actions of a fucking stubborn fool.
I’m not quite getting why he thinks we’re all radical-minded college students currently pursuing a degree in Women Studies at Feminazi U. I’m guessing he’ll keep fucking that chicken Bakunin-style, because “Viva la Commune!”.
Meh, it’s just easier to discredit our words in his mind if we are all brainwashed by the system that apparently was created by feminists to uhh… brainwash women… for the purpose of… taking children away from men? idk I got lost in his labyrinthine argument.
I’m pursuing a degree in Archaeology which has been heavily (and very rightly) influenced by feminist thought, ya know because archaeologists for a long time simply ignored half of the population that existed for centuries and helped create human history. Not that Brz or other MRAs would agree since they apparently single-handedly created “civilization” (not really a word commonly used anymore btw, shows how much they read about history or archaeology and get most of their assfacts from the History Channel).
Brz:
t’encule
That is all
Oh, just to clarify. Archaeologists are trying to do a better job of critiquing the gender binary especially since it’s hard to justify simply projecting our ideas of gender norms into the past or across cultures, but in my opinion it still needs a lot of work.
I started reading his manifesto and watching the video, but I couldn’t go on. I had this horrible feeling I was giving this dirtbag too much attention and notoriety and contributing to his fame. Whenever these mass shootings happen, everyone remembers the shooter, but the victims’ names fall away. I do NOT want to give him the white hot spot light and read all his narcissistic rantings like I’m sure he wanted. And what was with that creepy evil staged laugh? He was like a bad actor playing the part of an evil douche.
I used to find it hard to believe that someone could actually feel this much rage as to actually want to plot and kill. If anything good can come out of this, it would be that people like me finally believe this is possible, this thinking, straight from the horse’s mouth. No doubt, no “snapping” or other deep mysterious recesses of the psyche. I finally get it. Not sure if I’m being clear, I just finally feel the mystery is gone. No need to decode him. No “why did he do it?!” It’s plain as day.
But seriously, the comment threads on the other articles about this issue are pretty disturbing to me.
First of all, I keep seeing the “access to mental healthcare” canard that really just stigmatizes the mentally ill. If you’ve read Law and the multiverse, there’s an ongoing discussion about the insanity defense (and yes, legal insanity is different than mental illness) and how it generally would not apply to comic book supervillains. This is that same kind of situation – it takes a conscious effort to go out and kill people like this. People who are mentally ill are way more likely to go ahead and harm themselves. Claiming that people go on murderous rampages because of untreated depression or BP-I are playing the same game as the abuse apologetics mentioned in Why does he do that.
Secondly, I keep seeing the claim that psych meds are causing these atrocities, which is frustrating to the extreme. I these are both issues relating to stigmatizing mentally ill people, but this one isn’t just stigmatizing, it’s dangerous to people who rely on those medications.
This whole thing is pretty terrifying. Terrifying as a reminder that there are men who would want to kill me for rejecting them, and terrifying that most of the main-stream news sources are ignoring the implications behind Elliot believing he “deserved” a blond bombshell….That is so dehumanizing.
The thing that is so ridiculous about this is that believing that men will think they are “owed” sex if I go on a date with them is going to make me MORE likely to reject them!! You want women to stop rejecting men so much? Stop believing you have a right to our bodies, and start making us feel safe when we go on dates.
“First of all, I keep seeing the “access to mental healthcare” canard that really just stigmatizes the mentally ill. If you’ve read Law and the multiverse, there’s an ongoing discussion about the insanity defense (and yes, legal insanity is different than mental illness) and how it generally would not apply to comic book supervillains. This is that same kind of situation – it takes a conscious effort to go out and kill people like this. People who are mentally ill are way more likely to go ahead and harm themselves. Claiming that people go on murderous rampages because of untreated depression or BP-I are playing the same game as the abuse apologetics mentioned in Why does he do that.
Secondly, I keep seeing the claim that psych meds are causing these atrocities, which is frustrating to the extreme. I these are both issues relating to stigmatizing mentally ill people, but this one isn’t just stigmatizing, it’s dangerous to people who rely on those medications.”
QFT and thank you.