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Why Elliot Rodger's misogyny matters

A chart posted by Elliot Rodger, giving his chilling spin on a manosphere meme depicting supposed female "hypergamy"
A chart posted by Elliot Rodger, giving his chilling spin on a manosphere meme depicting supposed female “hypergamy”

When a white supremacist murders blacks or Jews, no one doubts that his murders are driven by his hateful, bigoted ideology. When homophobes attack a gay youth, we rightly label this a hate crime.

But when a man filled to overflowing with hatred of women acts upon this hatred and launches a killing spree targeting women, many people find it hard to accept that his violence has anything to do with his misogyny. They’re quick to blame it on practically anything else they can think of – guns, video games, mental illness – though none of these things in themselves would explain why a killer would target women.

In the case of Elliot Rodger, who set out on Friday night aiming, as he put it in a chilling video, to “slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blonde slut” in a popular sorority house at the University of California, Santa Barbara, some Men’s Rights activists and other manospherians are doing their best to convince the world that misogyny had nothing to do with it.

On A Voice for Men, for example, Janet Bloomfield (who goes by the name JudgyBitch), notes that Rodger killed more men than women, and thereby declares that

Elliot was an equal opportunity hate monger, torn between wanting to kill women and wanting to kill men. …

Jessica Valenti proclaims that “misogyny kills”, blithely unconcerned with the fact that more men than women were killed.  Killing men is misogyny?  That’s an interesting interpretation.

Bloomfield ignores the reason more men were killed than women: Rodger’s planned massacre of sorority women failed. He was unable to get inside the sorority house. And so he was forced to improvise.

On Twitter, meanwhile, cultural commenter Cathy Young, long sympathetic to Men’s Righsters, seems to think that Rodger’s rampage was entirely due to “mental illness” and argues that connecting Rodger’s rampage to a wider culture of misogyny is a form of “anti-male hate speech.”

Even more strangely, the proudly racist Steve Sailer – a hero to Heartiste and others in the “alt-right” wing of the manosphere – has declared that Rodger wasn’t motivated by misogyny but rather by “anti-Blondism,” and that his targeting of “ blonde sluts” in a popular sorority house was “an extremely intentional racial hate crime.” Never mind that the half-Asian Rodger idolized blonde women as superior (even as he hated them) and that his comments online are littered with rather crude, rather traditional racism against people who weren’t white.

But Sailer’s claim is little more than an attempt at a derail.

The fact is that Rodger made his misogyny very clear — in his videos, in his internet postings and most of all in his 140-page “manifesto,” which is filled with angry denunciations of women and elaborate fantasies of violent “retribution” towards them. As with many misogynists, his misogyny was largely driven by thwarted sexual entitlement: he desired women intensely but they (wisely) wanted nothing to do with him.

Consider the following passages from his manifesto. I’ve put some of the most disturbing bits in bold.

The most beautiful of women choose to mate with the most brutal of men, instead of magnificent gentlemen like myself. Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with. That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence. If women continue to have rights, they will only hinder the advancement of the human race by breeding with degenerate men and creating stupid, degenerate offspring. This will cause humanity to become even more depraved with each generation. Women have more power in human society than they deserve, all because of sex. There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female.

Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such. … All women must be quarantined like the plague they are, so that they can be used in a manner that actually benefits a civilized society. …

The first strike against women will be to quarantine all of them in concentration camps. At these camps, the vast majority of the female population will be deliberately starved to death. That would be an efficient and fitting way to kill them all off. I would take great pleasure and satisfaction in condemning every single woman on earth to starve to death.

I don’t know about you, but to me that sounds just a little bit like misogyny.

Rodger saw his “Day of Retribution” as part of a war against women. Elsewhere in his manifesto he wrote:

Women’s rejection of me is a declaration of war, and if it’s war they want, then war they shall have. It will be a war that will result in their complete and utter annihilation. I will deliver a blow to my enemies that will be so catastrophic it will redefine the very essence of human nature.

Now, there is no question that he also hated certain kinds of men and boys – the “obnoxious brutes” he so often saw with the “pretty blonde girls” he simultaneously desired and despised. His manifesto is dotted with denunciations of them, as well as with denunciations of humanity as a whole. At one point, he posted a fantasy on PUAhate about killing all the men on earth with a virus so he could have all the women for himself. But he thought about, and wrote about, killing women all the time.

Indeed, even when he was bullied as a youngster, he directed most of his anger not at the bullies themselves but at their girlfriends.

Remembering one bullying incident from high school, he wrote

Some boys randomly pushed me against the lockers as they walked past me in the hall. One boy who was tall and had blonde hair called me a “loser”, right in front of his girlfriends. Yes, he had girls with him. Pretty girls. And they didn’t seem to mind that he was such an evil bastard. In fact, I bet they liked him for it. … The most meanest and depraved of men come out on top, and women flock to these men. Their evil acts are rewarded by women; while the good, decent men are laughed at. … I hated the girls even more than the bullies because of this.

Rodger was not only a misogynist; he was explicitly an enemy of feminism. While he doesn’t seem to have ever identified as a Men’s Rights activist per se – the only “rights” he seemed to be interested in were his own – his postings online echo the extreme and ignorant denunciations of feminism seen amongst MRAs and other manospherians.

This, too, has been denied by Men’s Rights activists. On AVFM, the “non-feminist” would-be “philosopher” Fidelbogen declares that

We have no evidence yet that Elliott Rodger was anything but apolitical in regard to feminism as such. He was not outspoken about feminism … He was only a sexually frustrated chump with mental issues, who apparently “hooked up” with PUA literature, and websites like “the Manhood Academy”.

In fact, Rodger attacked feminism explicitly in a number of comments on PUAhate, where rabid antifeminism is essentially the default ideology. In one comment, he declared bluntly that “feminism must be destroyed.” In another he predicted that

One day incels will realize their true strength and numbers, and will overthrow this oppressive feminist system.

Start envisioning a world where WOMEN FEAR YOU.

And while he saw PUAhate itself as “a putrid pit of despair,” he argued that

it does give a view of what the world is really like, what women are really like, and the evils of a feminist society.

Every male should read the posts here so that they can be awakened. There are too many delusional males worshipping women who would only spit in their faces.

There is no question that Rodger was a very disturbed man. I’m not a psychiatrist, nor do I have access to his medical or psychiatric records. But I would not be shocked to find that he was struggling with some sort of mental disorder or disorders. He was seeing several therapists, and a psychiatrist prescribed the antipsychotic Risperidone for him; he refused to take it. This prescription in itself doesn’t prove he was psychotic; psych meds are often prescribed for off-label uses, and Risperidone is also used to reduce irritability in people with autism. (Rodger was reportedly diagnosed as having aspergers.)

But, as someone who has himself dealt with depression for decades, I cannot help but think, reading through his manifesto, that his thinking was, as mine has sometimes been, distorted by depression.

He was also clearly a narcissist, in the colloquial sense if not necessarily in the clinical sense, whose resentment of others was driven by narcissistic rage. And some of his pronouncements, particularly towards the end of his life, were so grandiose it’s hard to know whether these reflected his tendency towards melodrama, fueled by his love of fantasy literature and video games, or if they are symptoms of a delusional disconnection from the real world.

I don’t think, given the considerable evidence there is of his troubled state of mind, that raising these issues detracts from the main point, and that is:

Rodger was a misogynist through and through. In many ways his misogyny was his life. If you watch his videos and read his manifesto, you’ll see that he related anything and everything in his life to what he saw as the grand tragedy of his rejection by “girls,” a state of affairs he blamed entirely on the girls of the world and not on his own “magnificent” self.

He was utterly consumed by his sexual obsession with “pretty blonde girls” and their utter lack of interest in him, and, increasingly, by his elaborate fantasies of “retribution” against them, which ultimately led to his killing spree on Friday night.

To deny that he was driven by misogyny makes as little sense as denying that Hitler was driven by anti-Semitism.

The evidence is as clear-cut as it can be on this point. Anyone who can’t or won’t admit this is either an ideologue or a liar – or both.

Thanks to Melody and several other readers for pointing me to some of the examples used in this post.

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Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

*bangs head on wall* that’s not what he meant. “[R]esearchers are conflicted” =/= “abstracting peer-reviewed articles tend[s] to fail”

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

2…I hope

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Ok, I might be early with this, but I’m calling Pell. Due to the lack of any attempt at quotation signifiers.

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

2.

Jules
Jules
10 years ago

ok, just curious whats the solution to the widespread misogyny? Removing patriarchy?

Fade
10 years ago

@marie

i’m pretty sure responsibility is both misandry and also demonizing male sexuality

/necessary sarcasm tag

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

And 1, again

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

whoops sorry guys

idk, I guess he could be pell, with the lack of quotes and all. I’m just not convinced, unless he learned how to hide shouting he had seven phds all the time.

@jules

ok, just curious whats the solution to the widespread misogyny? Removing patriarchy

Yes.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

2!

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

Jules, even if what you’ve weren’t junk, you’ve only provided examples of two primates.

You have to prove that males from every primate species acts similarly. Every primate species. Not two. All of them.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Marie — I’m WAAY early with that guess!

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

3?

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

3

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Hey! I figured out how to not ninja each other! Call dibs on the next number, everyone else wait, repeat.

Jules
Jules
10 years ago

@jules

even if you’re right, people can decide whether to be violent or not. Take responsibility for your own actions.

” do, and thats what I hope most people do

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

dang, me and sparky keep posting the same number at the same time XD

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

But im just starting to feel the love here…its like a family

And Jules is that creepy in-law who keeps crashing the party and making gross remarks while the rest of us wish he’d leave. Yup, sounds about right.

3.

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@jules

then why bother with the evopsych bs?

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

FFFFFFFF GODDAMMIT

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Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@LBT

And Jules is that creepy in-law who keeps crashing the party and making gross remarks while the rest of us wish he’d leave. Yup, sounds about right.

3.

lol, so he’s like my stepmom :/

Jules
Jules
10 years ago

“idk, I guess he could be pell, with the lack of quotes and all. I’m just not convinced, unless he learned how to hide shouting he had seven phds all the time.

@jules

ok, just curious whats the solution to the widespread misogyny? Removing patriarchy

Yes.”

How? Im guessing the goal is removing Patriarchy with Matriarchy in which case wouldn’t that cause more misogyny if men as you say are inherently violent?

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@jules

How? Im guessing the goal is removing Patriarchy with Matriarchy in which case wouldn’t that cause more misogyny if men as you say are inherently violent?

oh, so you’re one of those ‘someone must be oppressing someone’ people.

No, fuckhead, it’s called ‘equality’ and people can try to make it a thing. Contrary to popular belief of trolls, feminists do not want to institute a matriarchy.

pecunium
10 years ago

Jules:

It does matter and I didn’t see your post. sorry

Liar. You quoted that post in your reply.

even if you’re right, people can decide whether to be violent or not. Take responsibility for your own actions.

” do, and thats what I hope most people do

No, you don’t. This entire thread you have not once taken responsibility for your actions. You lied about not seeing what I’d said.

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

Jules? Lie to US! Well, clutch my pearls and call me Minnie!

Also, love how he’s saying you’re saying that men are inherently violent. No, chucklefuck, nobody is saying that but you.

Jules
Jules
10 years ago

“oh, so you’re one of those ‘someone must be oppressing someone’ people.

No, fuckhead, it’s called ‘equality’ and people can try to make it a thing. Contrary to popular belief of trolls, feminists do not want to institute a matriarchy.”

Don’t get defensive, it was a guess. That level of equality is impossible to achieve. I like to know how its achievable because you will always have a minority ruling over a majority. Greed and ego’s wont let it happen. How exactly will every sector of society be 50/50 at all times and remain that way? Furthermore, people have choice and preference. Its not a coincident that females are outnumbering males in the health sector. Its by choice, they prefer to be.

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