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Why Elliot Rodger's misogyny matters

A chart posted by Elliot Rodger, giving his chilling spin on a manosphere meme depicting supposed female "hypergamy"
A chart posted by Elliot Rodger, giving his chilling spin on a manosphere meme depicting supposed female “hypergamy”

When a white supremacist murders blacks or Jews, no one doubts that his murders are driven by his hateful, bigoted ideology. When homophobes attack a gay youth, we rightly label this a hate crime.

But when a man filled to overflowing with hatred of women acts upon this hatred and launches a killing spree targeting women, many people find it hard to accept that his violence has anything to do with his misogyny. They’re quick to blame it on practically anything else they can think of – guns, video games, mental illness – though none of these things in themselves would explain why a killer would target women.

In the case of Elliot Rodger, who set out on Friday night aiming, as he put it in a chilling video, to “slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blonde slut” in a popular sorority house at the University of California, Santa Barbara, some Men’s Rights activists and other manospherians are doing their best to convince the world that misogyny had nothing to do with it.

On A Voice for Men, for example, Janet Bloomfield (who goes by the name JudgyBitch), notes that Rodger killed more men than women, and thereby declares that

Elliot was an equal opportunity hate monger, torn between wanting to kill women and wanting to kill men. …

Jessica Valenti proclaims that “misogyny kills”, blithely unconcerned with the fact that more men than women were killed.  Killing men is misogyny?  That’s an interesting interpretation.

Bloomfield ignores the reason more men were killed than women: Rodger’s planned massacre of sorority women failed. He was unable to get inside the sorority house. And so he was forced to improvise.

On Twitter, meanwhile, cultural commenter Cathy Young, long sympathetic to Men’s Righsters, seems to think that Rodger’s rampage was entirely due to “mental illness” and argues that connecting Rodger’s rampage to a wider culture of misogyny is a form of “anti-male hate speech.”

Even more strangely, the proudly racist Steve Sailer – a hero to Heartiste and others in the “alt-right” wing of the manosphere – has declared that Rodger wasn’t motivated by misogyny but rather by “anti-Blondism,” and that his targeting of “ blonde sluts” in a popular sorority house was “an extremely intentional racial hate crime.” Never mind that the half-Asian Rodger idolized blonde women as superior (even as he hated them) and that his comments online are littered with rather crude, rather traditional racism against people who weren’t white.

But Sailer’s claim is little more than an attempt at a derail.

The fact is that Rodger made his misogyny very clear — in his videos, in his internet postings and most of all in his 140-page “manifesto,” which is filled with angry denunciations of women and elaborate fantasies of violent “retribution” towards them. As with many misogynists, his misogyny was largely driven by thwarted sexual entitlement: he desired women intensely but they (wisely) wanted nothing to do with him.

Consider the following passages from his manifesto. I’ve put some of the most disturbing bits in bold.

The most beautiful of women choose to mate with the most brutal of men, instead of magnificent gentlemen like myself. Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with. That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence. If women continue to have rights, they will only hinder the advancement of the human race by breeding with degenerate men and creating stupid, degenerate offspring. This will cause humanity to become even more depraved with each generation. Women have more power in human society than they deserve, all because of sex. There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female.

Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such. … All women must be quarantined like the plague they are, so that they can be used in a manner that actually benefits a civilized society. …

The first strike against women will be to quarantine all of them in concentration camps. At these camps, the vast majority of the female population will be deliberately starved to death. That would be an efficient and fitting way to kill them all off. I would take great pleasure and satisfaction in condemning every single woman on earth to starve to death.

I don’t know about you, but to me that sounds just a little bit like misogyny.

Rodger saw his “Day of Retribution” as part of a war against women. Elsewhere in his manifesto he wrote:

Women’s rejection of me is a declaration of war, and if it’s war they want, then war they shall have. It will be a war that will result in their complete and utter annihilation. I will deliver a blow to my enemies that will be so catastrophic it will redefine the very essence of human nature.

Now, there is no question that he also hated certain kinds of men and boys – the “obnoxious brutes” he so often saw with the “pretty blonde girls” he simultaneously desired and despised. His manifesto is dotted with denunciations of them, as well as with denunciations of humanity as a whole. At one point, he posted a fantasy on PUAhate about killing all the men on earth with a virus so he could have all the women for himself. But he thought about, and wrote about, killing women all the time.

Indeed, even when he was bullied as a youngster, he directed most of his anger not at the bullies themselves but at their girlfriends.

Remembering one bullying incident from high school, he wrote

Some boys randomly pushed me against the lockers as they walked past me in the hall. One boy who was tall and had blonde hair called me a “loser”, right in front of his girlfriends. Yes, he had girls with him. Pretty girls. And they didn’t seem to mind that he was such an evil bastard. In fact, I bet they liked him for it. … The most meanest and depraved of men come out on top, and women flock to these men. Their evil acts are rewarded by women; while the good, decent men are laughed at. … I hated the girls even more than the bullies because of this.

Rodger was not only a misogynist; he was explicitly an enemy of feminism. While he doesn’t seem to have ever identified as a Men’s Rights activist per se – the only “rights” he seemed to be interested in were his own – his postings online echo the extreme and ignorant denunciations of feminism seen amongst MRAs and other manospherians.

This, too, has been denied by Men’s Rights activists. On AVFM, the “non-feminist” would-be “philosopher” Fidelbogen declares that

We have no evidence yet that Elliott Rodger was anything but apolitical in regard to feminism as such. He was not outspoken about feminism … He was only a sexually frustrated chump with mental issues, who apparently “hooked up” with PUA literature, and websites like “the Manhood Academy”.

In fact, Rodger attacked feminism explicitly in a number of comments on PUAhate, where rabid antifeminism is essentially the default ideology. In one comment, he declared bluntly that “feminism must be destroyed.” In another he predicted that

One day incels will realize their true strength and numbers, and will overthrow this oppressive feminist system.

Start envisioning a world where WOMEN FEAR YOU.

And while he saw PUAhate itself as “a putrid pit of despair,” he argued that

it does give a view of what the world is really like, what women are really like, and the evils of a feminist society.

Every male should read the posts here so that they can be awakened. There are too many delusional males worshipping women who would only spit in their faces.

There is no question that Rodger was a very disturbed man. I’m not a psychiatrist, nor do I have access to his medical or psychiatric records. But I would not be shocked to find that he was struggling with some sort of mental disorder or disorders. He was seeing several therapists, and a psychiatrist prescribed the antipsychotic Risperidone for him; he refused to take it. This prescription in itself doesn’t prove he was psychotic; psych meds are often prescribed for off-label uses, and Risperidone is also used to reduce irritability in people with autism. (Rodger was reportedly diagnosed as having aspergers.)

But, as someone who has himself dealt with depression for decades, I cannot help but think, reading through his manifesto, that his thinking was, as mine has sometimes been, distorted by depression.

He was also clearly a narcissist, in the colloquial sense if not necessarily in the clinical sense, whose resentment of others was driven by narcissistic rage. And some of his pronouncements, particularly towards the end of his life, were so grandiose it’s hard to know whether these reflected his tendency towards melodrama, fueled by his love of fantasy literature and video games, or if they are symptoms of a delusional disconnection from the real world.

I don’t think, given the considerable evidence there is of his troubled state of mind, that raising these issues detracts from the main point, and that is:

Rodger was a misogynist through and through. In many ways his misogyny was his life. If you watch his videos and read his manifesto, you’ll see that he related anything and everything in his life to what he saw as the grand tragedy of his rejection by “girls,” a state of affairs he blamed entirely on the girls of the world and not on his own “magnificent” self.

He was utterly consumed by his sexual obsession with “pretty blonde girls” and their utter lack of interest in him, and, increasingly, by his elaborate fantasies of “retribution” against them, which ultimately led to his killing spree on Friday night.

To deny that he was driven by misogyny makes as little sense as denying that Hitler was driven by anti-Semitism.

The evidence is as clear-cut as it can be on this point. Anyone who can’t or won’t admit this is either an ideologue or a liar – or both.

Thanks to Melody and several other readers for pointing me to some of the examples used in this post.

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Timothy Byrne (@TByrne75)

Rodger was a misogynist. This virulent misogyny propelled his world view, and his disgusting actions.

In other news, water is wet.

Gazorpazorpfield
Gazorpazorpfield
10 years ago

This fact that more men died should be a wake up call to manospherians and their shills that misogyny kills men too.

But then again, the MRM has never been known for logical conclusions.

badfae
badfae
10 years ago

This is the best write-up I’ve seen so far about this. Well done!

Ally S
10 years ago

LOL, MRAs saying they give a fuck about blonde women. Wake me up when hell is no longer frozen.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

I wish JudgyBitch and all her little MRA buddies would get a blast of total self-awareness. It would shut them up forever.

Ally S
10 years ago

This fact that more men died should be a wake up call to manospherians and their shills that misogyny kills men too.

That would mean an actual shift from half-assed critiques of feminist theories of sexism to insightful analyses of how men are truly affected by the side-effects of the gender roles that underlie their privileged status. Never going to happen.

Ally S
10 years ago

I wish JudgyBitch and all her little MRA buddies would get a blast of total self-awareness. It would shut them up forever.

Sadly, they’re more likely to criticize their ideological deities like Warren Farrell than gain any self-awareness.

Mnemosyne
Mnemosyne
10 years ago

I wish MRAs/PUAs would admit to the fact that it was their ideology that led to this tragedy. However, they won’t. I can only hope that the rest of society will see this for what it truly is. Maybe the Feds will start keeping tabs on Roosh and Heartiste now…

lurker
lurker
10 years ago

Come to think of it, did that 20/20 manosphere special ever actually air?

kittehserf
10 years ago

For all their denials of Rodgers having anything to do with MRM ideology, I bet a lot of them are just salivating at the thought of what he did.

lurker
lurker
10 years ago

Either way, the fact that (mainstream) media is playing down Rodger’s misogyny to a stating-the-facts level but is extremely happy to talk about mental illnesses and guns (so far) was really starting to tick me off. Thank you for this post, David.

Lids
10 years ago

Thank you David. This is very well written and I will show this to people when I’m trying to explain what I mean.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
10 years ago

The bottom line here is that MRAs know that Rodger is fundamentally one of them, but cognitive dissonance and the exigencies of sustaining their movement of misogynist keyboard warriors mean that their only option is to lie. If not to themselves, then to those upon whose support their bubble reality depends. Hopefully, the weight of public scrutiny on sites like PUAhate (I never thought I’d hear that name spoken on CNN) will cause the misogynysphere to shrink, but somehow I don’t think that will happen. I do think that we will see the true believers get even more extreme, however.

Cthulhu's Intern
10 years ago

Is there supposed to be a forensic analysis of his computers? I’m seriously wondering if any MRA sites are on his cache.

Stevie
Stevie
10 years ago

Well, I suspect that MRAs are terrified by this because, as I noted on the previous thread, it undermines the central myth of their lives. It is an article of faith that if they were good looking, rich and had an expensive car they would be mobbed by adoring women; Rodgers was not bad looking, had plenty of money and drove an expensive car and yet women apparently wanted nothing to do with him.

It destroys their entire belief system; no wonder they are scrabbling desperately for some exit route…

leocigale
leocigale
10 years ago

Thank you for writing this David! Expresses what needs to be expressed! Every comment section I fucking go to there’s a bunch of assholes fucking defending how it “wasn’t misogyny, more men died, stop being anti-male…”!!!!!! WHY THE FUCK DO THOSE COMMENTS GET UPVOTES!!!?? AND WHY ARE PEOPLE ***DEFENDING*** THIS SON OF A BITCH!!!!!

leocigale
leocigale
10 years ago

Sorry if that comment was too loud… Just ridiculous…. I need to hug my cat and boyfriend…. 🙁

steampunked (@steampunked)

leocigale – I just had to close a site which had folk commenting saying that it wasn’t surprising, because after all men are entitled to sex. That was the phrase! Entitled to sex – so not getting it is a ‘decent’ reason to go on a murderous rampage…

The posters tried to justify it by adding that women are entitled to it as well, of course. Although everyone knows women get it ‘for free’.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Ooh, what did you get me? The gift of terrible sex, no orgasm, and potential scorn afterwards? Aw, you shouldn’t have, Mr Misogynist.

Noadi
10 years ago

Since it’s Towel Day I’m feeling like sticking JudgeyBitch and other manosphere denizens into the Total Perspective Vortex might be suitable.

Stevie
Stevie
10 years ago

Leocigate

They are claiming that it wasn’t hatred of women because they won’t accept that their own actions have consequences; it’s just another ordinary day in a misogynistic culture which doesn’t want to grow up and deal with reality.

It’s like the people who spew racist, sexist, homophobic vomit over the web and then complain that people are censoring them by pointing out that it’s racist, sexist homophobic vomit…

Noadi
10 years ago

I just had to close a site which had folk commenting saying that it wasn’t surprising, because after all men are entitled to sex. That was the phrase! Entitled to sex – so not getting it is a ‘decent’ reason to go on a murderous rampage…

Everyone is entitled to sex, if they desire it, they just aren’t entitled to a partner other than their own hand or sex toys.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I shall now impart to you, lurking frustrated misogynists, a very important proverb.

Man goes to bed with sexual problem in mind, wakes up with solution in hand.

They even sell lube at the drugstore if you need some help.

Lee
Lee
10 years ago

Thanks for writing this, David. You articulated this way better than I could have at 5 AM Eastern.

Also…

Everyone is entitled to sex, if they desire it, they just aren’t entitled to a partner other than their own hand or sex toys.

This is an interesting tangent, since masturbation being somehow inferior to sex with a partner is just loaded with misogyny when you think about it. Sure, some religions insist you abstain from from it, but I’ve also heard the old saw about “you do it because you can’t get a woman, lolol” and that certainly doesn’t help. I also remember how people treated Joycelyn Elders after she advocated male masturbation; “What? A woman advocating one of the most heinous of sins[1]? SHE’S A WITCH! BURN HER!” 😛

[1] Really. I’ve seen LDS parents guides that described male masturbation as pretty much this (“denounced by prophets throughout the ages” or something like that).

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