You know, maybe I’ve been unfair to these manosphere fellows. I’m always saying that they hate women. But what if they don’t really hate women? Like hate hate. What if they just don’t respect women, you know, for totally understandable non-hatey reasons that aren’t misogynistic at all?
I mean, there’s nothing misogynistic about refusing to show an entire gender any respect because of some reasons you came up with, right?
Anyway, what’s got me wondering all this is a recent stickied post on the Red Pill Subreddit, home to ALPHA DUDES who totally score with the hot women like all the time. The post, by a dude with the totally non-lady-hating name of bitchdantkillmyvibe is titled “I don’t hate women, I just don’t respect them, and unless many changes within their gender come about, I never will,” and really, I don’t think I’ve ever read a less lady-hating title than that.
So let’s hear this dude out, huh?
TRP gets regularly blasted for ‘hating’ women. TRP does not hate women, bar the vitriolic men usually new to TRP who are still overcoming their understandable bitterness and resentment.
Exactly! Red Pillers totally don’t hate women, except for the ones that do.
TRP just sees women for what they are, and the ways they behave, and treats them accordingly.
Exactly! We don’t hate women for being women, we just hate them for acting like women.
Oh, wait, we don’t hate them.
TRP does not hate women – TRP does not respect women, and they give us reason after reason not to.
There are a number of reasons I do not respect women. Again, as creatures of fun and entertainment, I love them.
Like, seriously, how can you hate something if you like to stick your penis in it, huh? PURE STEM LOGIC.
I never feel feelings of hatred towards them, more annoyance, dissappointment and, as mentioned, a severe lack of the respect they claim they so desperately want.
Yeah, bitches are always claiming to desperately want respect. What’s that about?
So anyway, bitchdantkillmyvibe goes through his list of reasons for not giving the ladies the respect they claim they so desperately want.
His list begins with all those terrible fatties who want to be treated as human beings despite being terrible fatties.
The fat acceptance movement is one of the clearest and best examples of how women completely lack any sense of agency and how they demand the most respect for the least amount of work or effort. ….
In reverse, you never see anything close to a fat acceptance movement among men, when men still face a lot of the issues about image and self esteem. Men get just as bombarded by the media about what is attractive and what isn’t, and instead of trying to rewrite the rules to our benefit, we either shape up, or don’t.
Yeah, I mean, it’s not like men are actually more likely to be overweight or obese than women or that women are actually likely to face more criticism and outright discrimination based on weight or anything. And it’s not like most diets actually fail and that dieting in the end often backfires and can cause people to gain more weight. Or that stigmatizing fat people is completely ineffective at causing them to lose weight and, yep, can also cause them to gain weight instead.
Oh wait, all of those things are true.
But bitchdantkillmyvibe is on to his next topic: child custody.
The way women embrace the broken system surrounding child custody laws is another example in women’s solipsism, and worse, their complete disregard and almost sociopathic lack of care for not only their husband/partner/lover, but the father of their child, their offspring, who without, would never have been able to grant her such a gift to begin with.
Yeah, I mean, it’s not like judges grant primary custody to the person who’s been doing the bulk of the child care and that this person is usually the mother.
In my opinion, the way women abuse child custody laws is reason enough to lack complete respect for women and is the biggest reason, personally, I will never respect their gender. Taking a father’s child away from him is one of the most horrible, disgusting, vile, vindictive, malicious and heartless things you can do to a man. I don’t care how much he may have hurt you, or how badly you want to get back at him, taking his seed away from him eclipses almost any wrongdoing he may have done to the woman.
Wait what? If the father has been, say, beating the crap out of the mother, wouldn’t it make sense to keep him away from the kids so that he won’t beat the crap out of them too?
This shows the true nature of modern women – that they only care for themselves and lack compassion almost entirely. I wouldn’t take a man’s child away from him even if he was the lowest of scum.
Uh, really? I’m pretty sure kids are a lot better off when they’re not being raised by “the lowest of scum,”particularly if this particular scum has a history of violence.
I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy, and for women to do that to someone they once loved and who once loved them back, and most likely supported them in a number of ways, not only dumbfounds me, but it scares me.
Hmm. I’m sort of beginning to wonder if this bitchdantkillmyvibe fellow might actually hate women. And possibly children too.
Oh, but he’s not done yet. He next takes on the specter of FEMINISM.
I’m a bit conflicted, because while the feminist movement did succeed in earning women some basic human rights that they shouldn’t have been denied, it is also largely responsible for the dismal state of the modern woman now.
After the world gave women almost everything they demanded, they still want more. …
For all this talk about ‘male privilege’, if you are born a white women with relative attractiveness, you are living life on easy mode.
Ah, yes, because all women are “white women with relative attractiveness.” And because that’s all it takes to become massively successful and powerful in the world today. That’s why 95.6% of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are “white women with relative attractiveness.”
Oh, wait, I’m being told that 95.6% of the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are actually men, not women. Sorry.
The feminist movement is now about the most trivial ‘rights’ being awarded to women and continuing to uphold the image that women are ‘oppressed’, when this could not be further from the truth. Women are more privileged than ever and get more pussy passes than in any point in history.
Here is a chart showing the increase in pussy passes over time.
Oops, sorry. That’s actually a chart showing the average annual output prices for potatoes in Scotland from 2003 to 2012. So in case you were wondering about that, you’re welcome!
I’m not sure where to look to find the historical data on pussy pass distribution.
The feminist movement is an example in how if you give an inch with a woman, she will take a mile. We were wrong to entertain their demands to begin with, thinking that if some of their demands were appeased, they would be content and more productive members of society. But … no matter how much more we continue to give them, they will never be sated and never feel content.
Yeah, I’m not detecting any misogyny here. Nope. None whatsoever.
And now we move onwards to rape. Well, “false rape culture.”
[F]or all the talk about ‘rape culture’, we are living in a society where women are taking more and more liberties with the law that already aggressively favors them by accusing men of rape for their own benefit.
Exactly. And there are so many benefits women get from accusing men of rape! Let’s see. They get to collect the $10,000 “rape accusation bounty” that’s placed by the government on every able-bodied adult man. And …
Wait. I’m being told there is no “rape accusation bounty” and that “you just made that up.”
Here we have another example of the vindictive, hurtful nature of women, where they only care about themselves and benefitting themselves, even at the behest of another man’s livelihood. Note, it’s not because they hate men – it’s because they hate everyone, or more appropriately, women are completely solipsistic and anyone’s wellbeing outside of their own is an afterthought.
Definitely no misogyny here at all.
This is the real reason ‘rape culture’ exists, to continue the victimisation of women and the benefits they reap by being society’s victim. They create a problem that isn’t there so they can exploit it to their own advantage. They willingly destroy men’s lives, careers and reputations, marking them permanently for the rest of their life, purely for their own gain. Men are completely disposable in a woman’s eyes, and this again is reason to not only disrespect them, but fear them.
But don’t get too sad, ladies, because, “as creatures of fun and entertainment,” he still LOVES you!
For all of men’s downfalls, nothing comes close to the manipulative, cold and psychopathic nature of women, not to mention that many of the slurs launched against men only apply to a small subset – rape is minimal and women are lucky to live in an age where the overwhelming majority of men view this as a most heinous act. …
However, the reasons I have listed here apply to an overwhelming majority of modern women …
Until these fundamental changes occur within the female gender – which I highly doubt they will – women will never be deserving of our respect and for them to demand otherwise is completely laughable.
But, ladies, remember – he still likes putting his penis in you!
Again, I do not hate women – I love women, I love fucking them, I love laughing with them, I love having fun with them, and even sometimes losing myself in the emotional rollercoaster that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience.
Yep. “The emotional rollercoaster that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience.” Which is located right next to “The Emotional Ragin Cajun that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience” at “The Emotional Six Flags Great America that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience.”
But respect them? Never. Not until these horrible rituals are called out as the disgusting, inhumane practices they are.
Ladies, he’s single! He’s horny! He loves to laugh!
@emilygoddess
i know. they’re like “Well if male privilege exists, how come women can be privileged inways that aren’t gender related?! Checkmate!”
The pie conversation reminded me of cheesecake. Now I want New York Cheesecake.
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I still have some green tea cheesecake in the freezer. Maybe I’ll defrost it over the weekend.
Just caught up on this wild ride of a thread, with David Twitter fighting MRM’s most annoying low-lights, a psych major crying in a bathtub and a shocking sock-puppet reveal. Most importantly, no one has banana cream on their favorite pie lists. Key Lime is king, of course, but banana pudding in pie form deserves love too.
I used to think I hated cheesecake, until I went to NYC this spring and had one at a fancy restaurant. It was so good, I sometimes daydream about making the 4-hour trek (each way) to have another piece.
Today on As The Blog Turns…
I’d recommend it.
Emily, I’ve had the cheesecake at the Ben Ash deli in NYC (across the street from Carnegie Deli). One slice and a cuppa cawfee was a full meal.
WonderHusband bakes wonderful pies, and I do too. My specialty is lemon meringue, which was my dad’s favorite. After my mom died, I taught myself to bake it so I could make it for him on his birthday. I now understand how rare and special it was to have a father you get along with so well that you actually want to do things like that for him.
I have to say it seems like the non-sensical Necro Troll is out of style and the passive-aggressive Martyr Troll has become all the rage. I’m more than ready for another MRA crank troll, a TeRPer yelling “SPINSTER” would be much more entertaining than having to watch another hot house flower endlessly complain about how mean and unforgiving the regulars are.
Plus I find this board is pretty easy going and friendly overall and it only heats up because many of the posters here have keen bullshit detectors. After suffering under high-handed dictator mods, I really appreciate how obscenely reasonable David is. It’s getting weird with all these posters acting liking there being victimized more then Piggy was in Lord of the Flies. Are all of you terrible people and I’m just missing it?
I have found myself wondering how the hell some of these people made it through elementary school without curling up in the corner of the playground in the fetal position recently.
New York cheesecake?
Reminds me. We have to have a dinner party. Mrmagnificent used to make a divine baked cheesecake – which I think was called a New York cheesecake by the chef who wrote the desserts book we used quite a lot. The damn thing has 8, maybe 12?, eggs in it. It’s gigantic, but delectable.
Yup!
I sort of half-got the psych student who wants to diagnose everybody and everything. Look out, doggie! She’ll be sticking labels on you next. Firstly for the reasons that pecunium and others alluded to. Secondly, because she’s young and inexperienced – maybe even a bit idealistic. She really hasn’t yet, or doesn’t want to, faced up to the fact that some people are just plain horrible, or are generally OK but horrible in specific circumstances or about particular topics. And then of course, thirdly, lacks the insight to acknowledge the effects of her own social faux pas on others. “But I’m really a nice person. Truly I am. See how sad I am now?” Not gonna work. She might come around after a period of reflection. (I play the accordion as well as the optimist for those who want a versatile performer.)
But the others. Should step on legos everywhere they go.
I know the disgusting sockpuppeter has been banned, but in case of lurking:
FUCK YOU.
Mac’s a person. You dare, DARE judge whether he’s a person or not? Real or not? You dare presume you know anything about him? Go step on all the caltrops forever.
@LBT – whoot, crossing all the fingers and toes here for your magazine submission!*
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Pie? Favourite pies?
Whaddya mean I’m only allowed to name THREE?
Steak and kidney
Apple
Chicken and leek
Pecan (never get to have it here, though)
Beef and mushroom
Loganberry
Anything Louis chooses to bake
* I hope you appreciate this. It makes typing really difficult.
Does fish pie count as pie?
If there’s a crust, it counts, titianblue.
I always forget about savory pies. I love me a chicken pot pie!
My favorite savory pie is beef and oyster pie.
Actually, you really can’t go wrong with anything that combines pie crust and gravy.
Anyone have a good fish pie recipe? Trying to find more ways of cooking fish that everyone in the house will agree are edible. So far baked fish nuggets are a hit. One son likes canned salmon salad; for the other, only fresh/frozen salmon is edible. One will eat fake crab; the other won’t.
Around here we are fond of cottage pie (as made here, a shepherd’s pie with ground turkey instead of lamb/mutton). Lots of mashed potatoes on top. Garlic and grated carrots in the meat mixture, Worcestershire and a bit of soy (put in when the pan is hot and allowed to boil mostly off – to my taste buds, much yummier that way), mixed veg in with the meat (younger son and I approve highly of edamame, but husband is uncertain. Carrot/corn/beans popular with all but younger son. Older son dislikes corn. I mean, I just want to make a tasty fucking pie here, people, and I don’t care what you pick out of it as long as you shut up about it).
Chicken or turkey pot pie, oh my, yes, please, with either pie crust or biscuit top, no peas by my preference, but some turnip in there, and best if made with the leftovers of a roast from which you have saved the pan juices, deglazed with sherry, and a bit of mushroom is welcome. Lots of pepper and just a touch of hot-pepper sauce, for the flavor, not the heat. Sage, thyme, maybe a bay leaf or two in the gravy.
I made a raspberry/blueberry pie with frozen berries, the blues picked by us, the rasps not, and made an annular crust (full bottom, top rolled out small to leave a ring between) to show the color. And pumpkin pie, well-spiced according to a King Arthur Flour Co. recipe (leave the mix in the fridge overnight, they say, to let the flavors permeate). Does anyone know a good spice mix for a person who can’t stand ginger? It tastes like soap to her, but I would like to make her a pie.
Onion-and-cheese pie. Quiche with broccoli – nothing like the texture of a good quiche. Lemon tart, my own recipe, very tart with the easiest crust ever. Apple pie, no cinnamon, as my mother made it (but with a proper top crust, not crumb). Cherry turnovers with faux puff pastry.
We like pie.
RE: pecunium
Though your takedown was belated, it was still eloquent as always. Well done.
And my condolences to your friend. 🙁 I mean, I always assumed I’d never be able to own property, but at least that means I didn’t lose anything. To be denied it… I’m so sorry.
RE: chimisaur
Have trouble feeding yourself? Okay, well that must be because you’re untrustworthy/lazy/immoral so our government is damn well going to make it as hard as humanly possible to get assistance,
*sigh* Yup, I just had to fight over my food stamps app, which just magically disappeared even though I went to the office in person with it. God, I fucking hate this state’s social system; Massachusetts had problems, but at least they didn’t just make my paperwork vanish multiple times.
RE: katz
Get an Oreo or graham cracker crust and fill it 1/2 full of chocolate pudding and 1/2 full of cherry pie filling. Garnish with cocoa powder or chocolate shavings.
My husband just made a high-pitched squeaking noise. I think he might want this. Shame I’m already overbudget for food this month… *sigh*
RE: Brooked
I have to say it seems like the non-sensical Necro Troll is out of style and the passive-aggressive Martyr Troll has become all the rage.
I’m with you. What I wouldn’t give to trade in Kate for Explore Nature about now… at least EN was entertaining!
If there’s a crust, it counts
oooh, so those are the rules! In that case I amend my “nonspecific meat pie” entry to be the great and delicious empanadas – with the yummy green dipping sauce (now I’m hungry again).
Speaking of things I didn’t know, somebody mentioned up-thread THEY MAKE BANANA PUDDING IN PIE FORM?! I must find some immediately and stick it in my face. Tell me it’s on a cookie crust 😀
Also, fish pie. I had never thought of sticking fish in a pie, but why not? It sounds amazing, but maybe as someone who’s two favorite foods are “fish” and “meat pie” I might be biased.
titianblue
that sounds very interesting. is it yummy?
all of this cooking/pie talk is making me miss the days i had enough spoons to cook good food
Here, fish pie is more like shepherds pie. So a variety of fish in a white sauce, with mashed potato on top. Hopefully topped with grated cheese. Then baked in the oven. Additional flavours & seasonings (maybe parsley/garlic/chilli in the white sauce) optional.
I don’t really care for pie myself. (The only desserty things I really like is dark, dark chocolate.) But hubby loves pie, and puts in his vote for strawberry-rhubarb.
Strawberry rhubarb? Sounds interesting. I’ve had apple rhubarb.
Though I confess I like my strawberries uncooked best, after sitting in their own juices for a while (oh god strawberry syrupy juices aaaaaah the one thing that makes summer bearable).
Hubby ADORES strawberries. A pity, since I myself don’t care for them. He tends to like all his desserty things based on fruit–chocolate, candy, and cookies have little interest for him.