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Red Pill Dude: I don’t hate women. I just think they’re vindictive, hurtful, hateful, solipsitic child-stealing sociopaths who deserve no respect.

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You know, maybe I’ve been unfair to these manosphere fellows. I’m always saying that they hate women. But what if they don’t really hate women? Like hate hate. What if they just don’t respect women, you know, for totally understandable non-hatey reasons that aren’t misogynistic at all?

I mean, there’s nothing misogynistic about refusing to show an entire gender any respect because of some reasons you came up with, right?

Anyway, what’s got me wondering all this is a recent stickied post on the Red Pill Subreddit, home to ALPHA DUDES who totally score with the hot women like all the time. The post, by a dude with the totally non-lady-hating name of bitchdantkillmyvibe is titled “I don’t hate women, I just don’t respect them, and unless many changes within their gender come about, I never will,” and really, I don’t think I’ve ever read a less lady-hating title than that.

So let’s hear this dude out, huh?

TRP gets regularly blasted for ‘hating’ women. TRP does not hate women, bar the vitriolic men usually new to TRP who are still overcoming their understandable bitterness and resentment.

Exactly! Red Pillers totally don’t hate women, except for the ones that do.

TRP just sees women for what they are, and the ways they behave, and treats them accordingly.

Exactly! We don’t hate women for being women, we just hate them for acting like women.

Oh, wait, we don’t hate them.

TRP does not hate women – TRP does not respect women, and they give us reason after reason not to.

There are a number of reasons I do not respect women. Again, as creatures of fun and entertainment, I love them.

Like, seriously, how can you hate something if you like to stick your penis in it, huh? PURE STEM LOGIC.

I never feel feelings of hatred towards them, more annoyance, dissappointment and, as mentioned, a severe lack of the respect they claim they so desperately want.

Yeah, bitches are always claiming to desperately want respect. What’s that about?

So anyway, bitchdantkillmyvibe goes through his list of reasons for not giving the ladies the respect they claim they so  desperately want.

His list begins with all those terrible fatties who want to be treated as human beings despite being terrible fatties.

The fat acceptance movement is one of the clearest and best examples of how women completely lack any sense of agency and how they demand the most respect for the least amount of work or effort. ….

In reverse, you never see anything close to a fat acceptance movement among men, when men still face a lot of the issues about image and self esteem. Men get just as bombarded by the media about what is attractive and what isn’t, and instead of trying to rewrite the rules to our benefit, we either shape up, or don’t.

Yeah, I mean, it’s not like men are actually more likely to be overweight or obese than women or that women are actually likely to face more criticism and outright discrimination based on weight or anything. And it’s not like most diets actually fail and that dieting in the end often backfires and can cause people to gain more weight. Or that stigmatizing fat people is completely ineffective at causing them to lose weight and, yep, can also cause them to gain weight instead.

Oh wait, all of those things are true.

But bitchdantkillmyvibe is on to his next topic: child custody.

The way women embrace the broken system surrounding child custody laws is another example in women’s solipsism, and worse, their complete disregard and almost sociopathic lack of care for not only their husband/partner/lover, but the father of their child, their offspring, who without, would never have been able to grant her such a gift to begin with.

Yeah, I mean, it’s not like judges grant primary custody to the person who’s been doing the bulk of the child care and that this person is usually the mother.

In my opinion, the way women abuse child custody laws is reason enough to lack complete respect for women and is the biggest reason, personally, I will never respect their gender. Taking a father’s child away from him is one of the most horrible, disgusting, vile, vindictive, malicious and heartless things you can do to a man. I don’t care how much he may have hurt you, or how badly you want to get back at him, taking his seed away from him eclipses almost any wrongdoing he may have done to the woman.

Wait what? If the father has been, say, beating the crap out of the mother, wouldn’t it make sense to keep him away from the kids so that he won’t beat the crap out of them too?

This shows the true nature of modern women – that they only care for themselves and lack compassion almost entirely. I wouldn’t take a man’s child away from him even if he was the lowest of scum.

Uh, really? I’m pretty sure kids are a lot better off when they’re not being raised by “the lowest of scum,”particularly if this particular scum has a history of violence.

I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy, and for women to do that to someone they once loved and who once loved them back, and most likely supported them in a number of ways, not only dumbfounds me, but it scares me.

Hmm. I’m sort of beginning to wonder if this bitchdantkillmyvibe fellow might actually hate women. And possibly children too.

Oh, but he’s not done yet. He next takes on the specter of FEMINISM.

I’m a bit conflicted, because while the feminist movement did succeed in earning women some basic human rights that they shouldn’t have been denied, it is also largely responsible for the dismal state of the modern woman now.

After the world gave women almost everything they demanded, they still want more. …

For all this talk about ‘male privilege’, if you are born a white women with relative attractiveness, you are living life on easy mode.

Ah, yes, because all women are “white women with relative attractiveness.” And because that’s all it takes to become massively successful and powerful in the world today. That’s why 95.6% of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are “white women with relative attractiveness.”

Oh, wait, I’m being told that 95.6% of the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are actually men, not women. Sorry.

The feminist movement is now about the most trivial ‘rights’ being awarded to women and continuing to uphold the image that women are ‘oppressed’, when this could not be further from the truth. Women are more privileged than ever and get more pussy passes than in any point in history.

Here is a chart showing the increase in pussy passes over time.

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Oops, sorry. That’s actually a chart showing the average annual output prices for potatoes in Scotland from 2003 to 2012. So in case you were wondering about that, you’re welcome!

I’m not sure where to look to find the historical data on pussy pass distribution.

The feminist movement is an example in how if you give an inch with a woman, she will take a mile. We were wrong to entertain their demands to begin with, thinking that if some of their demands were appeased, they would be content and more productive members of society. But …  no matter how much more we continue to give them, they will never be sated and never feel content.

Yeah, I’m not detecting any misogyny here. Nope. None whatsoever.

And now we move onwards to rape. Well, “false rape culture.”

[F]or all the talk about ‘rape culture’, we are living in a society where women are taking more and more liberties with the law that already aggressively favors them by accusing men of rape for their own benefit.

Exactly. And there are so many benefits women get from accusing men of rape! Let’s see. They get to collect the $10,000 “rape accusation bounty” that’s placed by the government on every able-bodied adult man. And …

Wait. I’m being told there is no “rape accusation bounty” and that “you just made that up.”

Here we have another example of the vindictive, hurtful nature of women, where they only care about themselves and benefitting themselves, even at the behest of another man’s livelihood. Note, it’s not because they hate men – it’s because they hate everyone, or more appropriately, women are completely solipsistic and anyone’s wellbeing outside of their own is an afterthought.

Definitely no misogyny here at all.

This is the real reason ‘rape culture’ exists, to continue the victimisation of women and the benefits they reap by being society’s victim. They create a problem that isn’t there so they can exploit it to their own advantage. They willingly destroy men’s lives, careers and reputations, marking them permanently for the rest of their life, purely for their own gain. Men are completely disposable in a woman’s eyes, and this again is reason to not only disrespect them, but fear them.

But don’t get too sad, ladies, because, “as creatures of fun and entertainment,” he still LOVES you!

For all of men’s downfalls, nothing comes close to the manipulative, cold and psychopathic nature of women, not to mention that many of the slurs launched against men only apply to a small subset – rape is minimal and women are lucky to live in an age where the overwhelming majority of men view this as a most heinous act. …

However, the reasons I have listed here apply to an overwhelming majority of modern women …

Until these fundamental changes occur within the female gender – which I highly doubt they will – women will never be deserving of our respect and for them to demand otherwise is completely laughable.

But, ladies, remember – he still likes putting his penis in you!

Again, I do not hate women – I love women, I love fucking them, I love laughing with them, I love having fun with them, and even sometimes losing myself in the emotional rollercoaster that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience.

Yep. “The emotional rollercoaster that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience.” Which is located right next to “The Emotional Ragin Cajun that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience” at “The Emotional Six Flags Great America that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience.”

But respect them? Never. Not until these horrible rituals are called out as the disgusting, inhumane practices they are.

Ladies, he’s single! He’s horny! He loves to laugh! 

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hrovitnir
hrovitnir
10 years ago

I like your taste in brain bleach, wewereemergencies. 😀

wewereemergencies
wewereemergencies
10 years ago

Sorry I went a bit overboard…

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

There’s no such thing as too many cute animal pictures. Does not compute.

wewereemergencies
wewereemergencies
10 years ago

In that case, thank-you both, and everyone enjoy!

kittehserf
10 years ago

Lots of cute Oz critters! 🙂

wewereemergencies
wewereemergencies
10 years ago

haha yes, I was going “how many cute aussie animals can I remember?” As it turns out, quite a few!

Retha
10 years ago

David, I am sorry to hear they say that of you. Good to know that it is said in such a way that any rational reader would see it is false.

People around here are pretty forgiving if you apologize and avoid making the same mistakes. Lots of us have screwed up and gotten called out for it. That includes me. But nobody is obligated to respond nicely to something hurtful. Trying to guilt trip people for getting upset isn’t going to help you. – Weirwoodtreehugger

WWTH, I disagree that people here are “pretty forgiving.” I said some things weeks ago which was wrong, and others that also went of badly – I understand why, now – and came back to apologize elaborately, because by that time we said several things in the misunderstanding.
I apologized for a, apologized for b, apologized for c, explained how I never said d, but could understand why some mammotheers think they did, so now I clearly deny d… And promised to not do the same again. And apologized for saying I will stay out of that thread and then coming back to apologize – I first thought getting out would help angered and hurt people so thought I’d stay out, but then thought that apologizing/ explaining will help better.
No amount of apology did anything. Instead I got “Your apology means nothing because you still believe d” (I don’t) and “tl;dr” and – even on other threads on this blog – “how dare you come back after telling us you will be gone” and “go away.”

If there are forgiving people around here, they are free to make their voices heard.

girlscientist
girlscientist
10 years ago

@Retha: I remember you. you’re the Special Snowflake who has *just* *so* *much* *empathy* for rape survivors that the idea of a rape survivor telling their story to a BDSM practicioner makes you *sick*, because said BDSM practicioner might use that story as a mastorbatory fantasy OMG!!!!!

As a rape survivor, I know exactly your type: you get off on playing the role of the saintly, supportive friend who is always there for their friends! You go out of your way to befriend people who are hurting just so you can be there for them! You will make your friends all better with your uber-special empathy that just shines through you! I bet you call yourself an Empath and that you took an online quizz that proved you are an Empath! Except… your friends go and makes themselves better, without you being able to get all the credit for it. And then they stop being interesting to you and you drop them like a hot potato.

So yeah, what you said about BDSM people? Not only offensive, but in all likelyhood extremely hypocritical. I can tell you that after your snit from a few weeks ago, you’re the very last person I’d go to for support.

Seriously, just because you said you were sorry doesn’t mean anybody owes you a parade, or cookies, or a hug. Nobody owes you forgiveness, and certainly not when *you* have decided that it’s time for you to be forgiven. You can take your martyr complex and… I don’t know, demand that it tells you all of its traumatic memories over tea while you pat yourself on the back for being such a good person.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Retha,
blow it out your ass.
You did a nonapology, then called kinsters (Yes, Reath, “kinksters” include the tops.) evil again. It was explained to you, again, that you were wrong and being an asshole. You didn’t screw up once and apologize. You have consistently questioned the agency of abuse survivors. Go away. Tolerating you is not going to become a project we take on so that you can talk down to us. Go find some “nice” place where you can judge others from on high and talk about how special and sensitive you are.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Sorry for borking your nym.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

I can tell you that after your snit from a few weeks ago, you’re the very last person I’d go to for support.

Seconded

You can take your martyr complex and… I don’t know, demand that it tells you all of its traumatic memories over tea while you pat yourself on the back for being such a good person.

LOL. Yup.

Malitia
Malitia
10 years ago

In my experience this is a very forgiving place, but from what I saw about that thread Retha sounds like:

“I don’t know and refuse to learn the first rule of holes and how to apologize properly*… why are people mad at me? What’s wrong with them? They must be mean!”

I’m not a sexual abuse survivor, nor am I kinky. I was bullied though, and have extremely strong aversion to emotional manipulation. She sets off my radars. :/

* The “sorry you felt hurt” is not an apology.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Retha: you’ve failed to realize that some shit is unforgivable, and what you said over and over before qualifies to a lot of people. In short, fuck off. This thread was not you opportunity to make it all about you.

kittehserf
10 years ago

Dittoing “what girlscientist said” and “Retha can just fuck off”.

Retha
10 years ago

You didn’t screw up once and apologize. You have consistently questioned the agency of abuse survivors.

If I have not apologized specifically and clearly for that in my long apology, and even if I did, I apologize now: I believe abuse survivors have agency. I will not say they do not. I will not discount their words on their experiences again. I should not have done it, sorry.

you’re the Special Snowflake who has *just* *so* *much* *empathy* for rape survivors that the idea of a rape survivor telling their story to a BDSM practicioner makes you *sick*, …

I asked a question which I am sorry for, not a statement, without mentioning a word like “sick.” And never called myself a special snowflake.

“get off on playing the role of the saintly, supportive friend … You will make your friends all better with your uber-special empathy that just shines through you! I bet you call yourself an Empath and that you took an online quizz that proved you are an Empath!”

Not even close. I actually feel better now – your criticism, and most likely that of several others, is based on making a huge misjudgment. You are speaking – like the guy who stalked me – of some head version of “Retha”, not of me.

Seriously, just because you said you were sorry doesn’t mean anybody owes you a parade, or cookies, or a hug. Nobody owes you forgiveness, and certainly not when *you* have decided that it’s time for you to be forgiven.

Correct. I answered Weirwoodtreehugger, who claimed people here are forgiving. I don’t demand forgiveness.

The “sorry you felt hurt” is not an apology.

For the things I *did* say, I apologized. For those I did not, I said things of that sort – including that I plan to use my words more wisely in future so as to avoid misconceptions.

You did a nonapology, then called kinsters (Yes, Reath, “kinksters” include the tops.) evil again. It was explained to you, again, that you were wrong and being an asshole.

I started with non-apologies because it took time to figure out what “ableist” mean. (It was no use to google – google told me ableist is to think non-handicapped people better than the handicapped, which I don’t. As someone with Aspergers, I can even count myself as somewhat handicapped.) When I figured out there was an elaborate apogy. I never expected forgiveness – but it would have been reasonable to stop making accusations of things I never said.
I have not “called kinksters evil again” – I said clearly that most kinks are not included in the one thing I do call evil, which is evil in a non-kinksters too. Nor are tattoo artists, people who remove splinters, or people who do some painful activities with the goal of causing pleasure.

But all in all, I don’t mind the anger now. You who criticize me don’t just misread ideas, but also the personality behind it.

I started participating on we hunted the mammoth under a different name, under which I get no trouble, and stay on topic. If I were actually the person you think I am, that personality would have had trouble by now.

scott1139
scott1139
10 years ago

Calling good people evil is unacceptable, Retha. Please, just go away.

girlscientist
girlscientist
10 years ago

@Retha: Not even close. I actually feel better now – your criticism, and most likely that of several others, is based on making a huge misjudgment. You are speaking – like the guy who stalked me – of some head version of “Retha”, not of me.

So, in the same thread, we’ve had “you criticized my attempt at Internet diagnosis and now I’m crying in the shower because of that” and now “you react badly to what I’ve said so you’re just like my stalker.” Wow. That’s special.

Have fun on your cross, Retha.

scott1139
scott1139
10 years ago

I said clearly that most kinks are not included in the one thing I do call evil, which is evil in a non-kinksters too.

Thank you for confirming you still think LBT’s husband is evil. Now, GO AWAY!!

Rea
Rea
10 years ago

I’m not gonna defend Retha, but “you criticized my attempt at Internet diagnosis” or “crying in the shower” was not said by her. And who did she call evil?

hippodameia8527
hippodameia8527
10 years ago

How about Reatha and her sock both get banned?

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

I started participating on we hunted the mammoth under a different name, under which I get no trouble, and stay on topic. If I were actually the person you think I am, that personality would have had trouble by now.

So you admit you’re a sock? Jesus Christ, go the fuck away.

mythago
10 years ago

@dustedeste: And how much diagnoses of certain disorders are misdiagnoses, because they’re looking at behavior through a heavily gendered lens. For example, until very recently ASDs were heavily underdiagnosed in girls (and still are) because the textbook example of an ASD was the shy math geek living in his parents’ basement with no friends. It took a female researcher who noticed that there was a huge difference in the ratio of diagnoses of full-blown autism vs. other disorders on the spectrum by gender, and lo and behold, a lot of girls were being ignored or misdiagnosed because they didn’t fit a particular stereotype.

I wonder how many women diagnosed with BPD are really on the spectrum, or have other disorders, but it’s just easier and more comfortable to slap a label like ‘bitch syndrome’ on them. Funny how nobody calls narcissistic personality disorder ‘douchebag syndrome’.

@steampunked: sounds like the kid had less of a disorder than of a sadly predictable reaction to growing up with a violent asshole of a father 🙁

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Retha,
If you’re still calling the consensual sexual activities of adults evil, you haven’t truly apologized.

If you had just said something like “I’m very sorry, I was wrong. It won’t happen again. Please forgive me.” We probably wouldn’t be having this conversation. Defensive apologies and “sorry you’re so offended” apologies don’t really count.

You also apparently didn’t read the part of the thread where we discussed how manipulative and shitty guilt trips are. Or else you wouldn’t try to do the same thing, right? Or maybe you would.

Retha
10 years ago

IF LBT’s husband doesn’t have the purpose of hurting, but rough pleasure, wanting him to experience pleasure through wanted pain, THEN that is not evil.

IF LBT’s husband hurts him with the purpose of hurting (not with the purpose of rough pleasure), wanting him to experience pain, trying to break him down, THEN that person(ality) – who shares a body with LBT – is evil in that regard.

I don’t know enough of LBT’s husband to know if I called him evil.

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