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Red Pill Dude: I don't hate women. I just think they're vindictive, hurtful, hateful, solipsitic child-stealing sociopaths who deserve no respect.

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You know, maybe I’ve been unfair to these manosphere fellows. I’m always saying that they hate women. But what if they don’t really hate women? Like hate hate. What if they just don’t respect women, you know, for totally understandable non-hatey reasons that aren’t misogynistic at all?

I mean, there’s nothing misogynistic about refusing to show an entire gender any respect because of some reasons you came up with, right?

Anyway, what’s got me wondering all this is a recent stickied post on the Red Pill Subreddit, home to ALPHA DUDES who totally score with the hot women like all the time. The post, by a dude with the totally non-lady-hating name of bitchdantkillmyvibe is titled “I don’t hate women, I just don’t respect them, and unless many changes within their gender come about, I never will,” and really, I don’t think I’ve ever read a less lady-hating title than that.

So let’s hear this dude out, huh?

TRP gets regularly blasted for ‘hating’ women. TRP does not hate women, bar the vitriolic men usually new to TRP who are still overcoming their understandable bitterness and resentment.

Exactly! Red Pillers totally don’t hate women, except for the ones that do.

TRP just sees women for what they are, and the ways they behave, and treats them accordingly.

Exactly! We don’t hate women for being women, we just hate them for acting like women.

Oh, wait, we don’t hate them.

TRP does not hate women – TRP does not respect women, and they give us reason after reason not to.

There are a number of reasons I do not respect women. Again, as creatures of fun and entertainment, I love them.

Like, seriously, how can you hate something if you like to stick your penis in it, huh? PURE STEM LOGIC.

I never feel feelings of hatred towards them, more annoyance, dissappointment and, as mentioned, a severe lack of the respect they claim they so desperately want.

Yeah, bitches are always claiming to desperately want respect. What’s that about?

So anyway, bitchdantkillmyvibe goes through his list of reasons for not giving the ladies the respect they claim they so  desperately want.

His list begins with all those terrible fatties who want to be treated as human beings despite being terrible fatties.

The fat acceptance movement is one of the clearest and best examples of how women completely lack any sense of agency and how they demand the most respect for the least amount of work or effort. ….

In reverse, you never see anything close to a fat acceptance movement among men, when men still face a lot of the issues about image and self esteem. Men get just as bombarded by the media about what is attractive and what isn’t, and instead of trying to rewrite the rules to our benefit, we either shape up, or don’t.

Yeah, I mean, it’s not like men are actually more likely to be overweight or obese than women or that women are actually likely to face more criticism and outright discrimination based on weight or anything. And it’s not like most diets actually fail and that dieting in the end often backfires and can cause people to gain more weight. Or that stigmatizing fat people is completely ineffective at causing them to lose weight and, yep, can also cause them to gain weight instead.

Oh wait, all of those things are true.

But bitchdantkillmyvibe is on to his next topic: child custody.

The way women embrace the broken system surrounding child custody laws is another example in women’s solipsism, and worse, their complete disregard and almost sociopathic lack of care for not only their husband/partner/lover, but the father of their child, their offspring, who without, would never have been able to grant her such a gift to begin with.

Yeah, I mean, it’s not like judges grant primary custody to the person who’s been doing the bulk of the child care and that this person is usually the mother.

In my opinion, the way women abuse child custody laws is reason enough to lack complete respect for women and is the biggest reason, personally, I will never respect their gender. Taking a father’s child away from him is one of the most horrible, disgusting, vile, vindictive, malicious and heartless things you can do to a man. I don’t care how much he may have hurt you, or how badly you want to get back at him, taking his seed away from him eclipses almost any wrongdoing he may have done to the woman.

Wait what? If the father has been, say, beating the crap out of the mother, wouldn’t it make sense to keep him away from the kids so that he won’t beat the crap out of them too?

This shows the true nature of modern women – that they only care for themselves and lack compassion almost entirely. I wouldn’t take a man’s child away from him even if he was the lowest of scum.

Uh, really? I’m pretty sure kids are a lot better off when they’re not being raised by “the lowest of scum,”particularly if this particular scum has a history of violence.

I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy, and for women to do that to someone they once loved and who once loved them back, and most likely supported them in a number of ways, not only dumbfounds me, but it scares me.

Hmm. I’m sort of beginning to wonder if this bitchdantkillmyvibe fellow might actually hate women. And possibly children too.

Oh, but he’s not done yet. He next takes on the specter of FEMINISM.

I’m a bit conflicted, because while the feminist movement did succeed in earning women some basic human rights that they shouldn’t have been denied, it is also largely responsible for the dismal state of the modern woman now.

After the world gave women almost everything they demanded, they still want more. …

For all this talk about ‘male privilege’, if you are born a white women with relative attractiveness, you are living life on easy mode.

Ah, yes, because all women are “white women with relative attractiveness.” And because that’s all it takes to become massively successful and powerful in the world today. That’s why 95.6% of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are “white women with relative attractiveness.”

Oh, wait, I’m being told that 95.6% of the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are actually men, not women. Sorry.

The feminist movement is now about the most trivial ‘rights’ being awarded to women and continuing to uphold the image that women are ‘oppressed’, when this could not be further from the truth. Women are more privileged than ever and get more pussy passes than in any point in history.

Here is a chart showing the increase in pussy passes over time.

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Oops, sorry. That’s actually a chart showing the average annual output prices for potatoes in Scotland from 2003 to 2012. So in case you were wondering about that, you’re welcome!

I’m not sure where to look to find the historical data on pussy pass distribution.

The feminist movement is an example in how if you give an inch with a woman, she will take a mile. We were wrong to entertain their demands to begin with, thinking that if some of their demands were appeased, they would be content and more productive members of society. But …  no matter how much more we continue to give them, they will never be sated and never feel content.

Yeah, I’m not detecting any misogyny here. Nope. None whatsoever.

And now we move onwards to rape. Well, “false rape culture.”

[F]or all the talk about ‘rape culture’, we are living in a society where women are taking more and more liberties with the law that already aggressively favors them by accusing men of rape for their own benefit.

Exactly. And there are so many benefits women get from accusing men of rape! Let’s see. They get to collect the $10,000 “rape accusation bounty” that’s placed by the government on every able-bodied adult man. And …

Wait. I’m being told there is no “rape accusation bounty” and that “you just made that up.”

Here we have another example of the vindictive, hurtful nature of women, where they only care about themselves and benefitting themselves, even at the behest of another man’s livelihood. Note, it’s not because they hate men – it’s because they hate everyone, or more appropriately, women are completely solipsistic and anyone’s wellbeing outside of their own is an afterthought.

Definitely no misogyny here at all.

This is the real reason ‘rape culture’ exists, to continue the victimisation of women and the benefits they reap by being society’s victim. They create a problem that isn’t there so they can exploit it to their own advantage. They willingly destroy men’s lives, careers and reputations, marking them permanently for the rest of their life, purely for their own gain. Men are completely disposable in a woman’s eyes, and this again is reason to not only disrespect them, but fear them.

But don’t get too sad, ladies, because, “as creatures of fun and entertainment,” he still LOVES you!

For all of men’s downfalls, nothing comes close to the manipulative, cold and psychopathic nature of women, not to mention that many of the slurs launched against men only apply to a small subset – rape is minimal and women are lucky to live in an age where the overwhelming majority of men view this as a most heinous act. …

However, the reasons I have listed here apply to an overwhelming majority of modern women …

Until these fundamental changes occur within the female gender – which I highly doubt they will – women will never be deserving of our respect and for them to demand otherwise is completely laughable.

But, ladies, remember – he still likes putting his penis in you!

Again, I do not hate women – I love women, I love fucking them, I love laughing with them, I love having fun with them, and even sometimes losing myself in the emotional rollercoaster that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience.

Yep. “The emotional rollercoaster that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience.” Which is located right next to “The Emotional Ragin Cajun that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience” at “The Emotional Six Flags Great America that is their feminine nature which I am unable to experience.”

But respect them? Never. Not until these horrible rituals are called out as the disgusting, inhumane practices they are.

Ladies, he’s single! He’s horny! He loves to laugh! 

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Monster
6 years ago

Ah, so if someone doesn’t respect me, and thinks that me getting custody of (future,hypothetical) children is worse than my male partner beating me, it is totally OK if they still love fucking me? Got it.

Areos
Areos
6 years ago

“Oh, wait, I’m being told that 95.6% of the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are actually men, not women. Sorry.”

————

What’s funny is that most of those male CEOs are married to a woman who has the exact same lifestyle as a CEO but without the stress.

grumpycatisagirl
6 years ago

This sadly completely reminds me of James Taranto of WSJ saying he’s not a misogynist because he loves women and we can all call him “Tarantosaurus” sex. And Taranto is actually kind of a mainstream media figure. But on the same level as this dude. Really appalling.

grumpycatisagirl
6 years ago

On another note (noticing the Twitter sidebar), is Dean Esmay really tweeting at David right now to accuse him of defending child abuse and child porn?? WTF.

contrapangloss
6 years ago

Applied MRA logic:

I don’t hate ticks. I just think they are evil little monsters out to turn moose grey and give people Lyme disease with their nasty little bloodsucking mouthparts. It’s not their fault, because EVOPSYCH means they are nasty, inferior, cold hearted… Um, I mean EVOLUTION designed them to be nasty fiends.

But I don’t hate ticks! Really! I love them! Ugly, demonic little monsters.

Fade
6 years ago

mmmmm wow, manosphere logic

“don’t let women have rights b/c then they might feel entitled to the same things you feel entitled to”. :/

Marie
Marie
6 years ago

wow. From beginning to end:

That woman has no neck. O_o

this guy is a terrible human being.

Citation needed.

I didn’t realize the fat acceptance movement tried to exclude men????

Taking children away from abusive fathers is worse than abusing your kids. ::barf::

Women are a hivemind now.

“I think feminism gave woman some basic rights but we never should have had it because now those uptight b*tches want more rights the nerve of them”

Citation needed.

I don’t hate women, I just [list of reasons to hate women].

What a terrible person. Why did I reat that. -_-

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zoon echon logon
6 years ago

He equates “love” with “you can do pleasant things for me,” and then accuses women of being self-centered. Right.

cloudiah
6 years ago

taking his seed away

Ick.

Oooh, and update us on this Twitter war?

moldybrehd
6 years ago

@grumpycatisagirl, yup, they’re doing their usual crap. Lie, and then wonder why they’re getting flack for it.

moldybrehd
6 years ago

Um, I was referring to the twitter stuff…

cloudiah
6 years ago

I fucking hate trying to read Twitter conversations, but JudgyBitch — the person who claimed that child sexual abuse victims were asking for it — is accusing David of defending child abusers?

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

I don’t care how much he may have hurt you, or how badly you want to get back at him, taking his seed away from him eclipses almost any wrongdoing he may have done to the woman.

Seconding the ick on that one. If a man sees his kids as “his seed” and not individual humans, he probably isn’t the most fit parent.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

What’s funny is that most of those male CEOs are married to a woman who has the exact same lifestyle as a CEO but without the stress.

What’s your point? First of all, you assume that none of the wives of CEOs have their own careers and are just sitting around eating bonbons all day.

Second of all, the fraction of the female population that is married to a wealthy CEO is very low. For the most part women work and always have.

It’s laughable that you’re implying being a woman is less stressful than being a man.

Fade
6 years ago

@areos

“Oh, wait, I’m being told that 95.6% of the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are actually men, not women. Sorry.”

————

What’s funny is that most of those male CEOs are married to a woman who has the exact same lifestyle as a CEO but without the stress.

i forgot that being married to someone in power is just like being in a position of power! and being married to someone with money is just like having a bunch of money and they’ll never try to guilt trip you into feeling like you don’t contribute or like you’re worth less b/c you don’t have money!

silly me!

Marie
Marie
6 years ago

@Areos

dude, ‘being married’ to someone in a position of power isn’t the same as being in a position of power. Get that through your thick head, and fuck off.

Falconer
6 years ago

TIL that Ewoks are trending on Twitter. … Okay.

(I clicked on the Twitter! banner in the sidebar but all I got was David’s tweets announcing his recent posts, nothing on the JB twitter melee.)

Falconer
6 years ago

@David: Because there’s no reason for anyone to hold an opinion, and speak out on that opinion, and criticize opposing opinions, unless they’re being paid to do all that. Got it.

fromafar2013
6 years ago

I can’t even. It’s nothing we haven’t heard before, all tropes and straw women/feminsits, so I’m just going to respond with brain bleach.
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Howard Bannister
6 years ago

The way women embrace the broken system surrounding child custody laws

Fathers who actively seek custody obtain either primary or joint physical custody over 70% of the time.

Source.

*Cough*

MaudeLL
6 years ago

Taking a father’s child away from him is one of the most horrible, disgusting, vile, vindictive, malicious and heartless things you can do to a man.

But hey, if the father doesn’t want to help raise and support the child, he should be able to disappear and take no responsibility (‘financial abort’, as human rights champions call it).

fromafar2013
6 years ago

By the Gods. I went to tumbler to escape this shit and look at cat pictures, but then I saw this:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/12/1434321/study-male-jurors-more-likely-to-find-large-women-guilty/?mobile=nc

But no! We don’t need the ‘fat acceptance movement’! Fat bitches just fat and lazy, it doesn’t affect anything but dudebro boners. /sarcasm

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU >_<

Lea
Lea
6 years ago

Women are “creatures” and children our men’s “seed”.

But it’s women who do not see other people’s humanity.

Wow, such self awareness fail.

Lea
Lea
6 years ago

Areos,
Citations badly needed.

David, I’m sorry these butt nuggets are lying about you and harassing you. They are vile people and it seems like their only goal in life is to get a little shittier every day. You shouldn’t have to deal with their nonsense.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

I actually believe that this guy doesn’t hate women, and here’s why: he doesn’t see women as people. To this asshole, women are objects. They are toys to fuck and enjoy. And he’s very pissed off that these “toys” have the temerity to demand to be treated like human beings, with all the rights and respect afforded human beings. He’s pissed off that some of these “toys” aren’t bending over backwards to please his boner and are actually demanding to be treated like human beings no matter what size they are. And he’s pissed off that these “toys” can “take away” some of his other “things,” his “seed,” aka, children. Because its also pretty damn obvious that he doesn’t view children as fully human either, but only as objects men can possess.

So women are non-human objects. And non-human objects usually don’t inspire strong emotions like hate.

And that’s really rather chilling. And this asshole can just fuck off and step on Legos.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

Seconding the ick on that one. If a man sees his kids as “his seed” and not individual humans, he probably isn’t the most fit parent.

Yep. When these guys talk about child custody, you hear a lot of “I, me, my” and how insulted and hurt they are that something they own was taken from them, and very little about the child. To them, custody is a contest to be won, and the child is less important than the damage to their ego if they lose.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

Sorry, OT for a second: I made a comment before the one above, and have tried to repost it since. WordPress is saying I already posted it, but I don’t see it.

David, if there are three nearly identical posts in the spam filter, I apologize.

jayemgriffin
6 years ago

@Howard Bannister: Shhhh, no, don’t try to use facts, it’ll only confuse them (as xie quietly bookmarks that source for future use).

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

Anyway, David, I hope you take care of yourself <3

Ally S
6 years ago

rape is minimal and women are lucky to live in an age where the overwhelming majority of men view this as a most heinous act

I wish.

AIT
AIT
6 years ago

Nth-ing all the aforementioned ick. It’s the same as “I’m not racist, I just think -insert racial slur and stereotype here-” types of arguments.

I have a huge box of Legos with their name on it.

Shiraz
Shiraz
6 years ago

“…I love fucking them…”

Dude, I don’t think so. What woman would let you touch her?

fromafar2013
6 years ago

@ Howard Bannister and Jayemgriffin

That source is good but a bit old so I did some digging to make sure the data is still relevant. It is 🙂

This one is from 2004 in Maryland.

http://www.wlcmd.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Custody-and-Financial-Distribution-in-Maryland.pdf

Basically, when mom asks for full custody, 83% of the time she gets it. When dad asks for full custody 87% of the time he gets it. And that’s SOLE custody.

Joint custody with physical (meaning kids live with them) is 34% for mom and 30% for dad.

Joint legal and physical is interestingly only 31% of when mom asks, and 43% of when dad asks.

tl;dr

Ask and ye shall receive (custody)!

AK
AK
6 years ago

Men get just as bombarded by the media about what is attractive and what isn’t, and instead of trying to rewrite the rules to our benefit, we either shape up, or don’t.

I like how he says this like it is a good thing. What’s wrong with rewriting the rules to make people’s lives better? I mean, if people are being hurt for no reason, why the hell would you want that to keep happening?

@David, sorry they’re attacking you like that. 🙁

skye
skye
6 years ago

Hope you enjoy your break David. Fighting ignorance is a duty you’ve taken seriously and that’s commendable. R&R is so important and enjoyable for its own sake. Without it, it’s very difficult not to be ground down, ime.

The aberrant irrationality of these blathering fools turns into one long drone.,’Lucky not to be raped’ huh? Oh, okay dickhead. In that case, you’d be ‘lucky’ if my dog didn’t bite your nuts off, right? You know, because, ‘Nature!’. lmao

Accusations of child abuse are very, very serious. Have these idiots no idea of libel laws? Are they prepared to go to court and pay damages?

Pfft! What am I thinking? No, no. That would mean they’d have to put their money where their mouth is, and that’s something only grown ups understand.

Cowardice spews much, defends little. You’ll never see these guys in the kind of public arena where the rules of engagement mean real consequences to themselves. Like counter-suits, trawling their own personal histories, and having their reputations publically ruined.

You are the real fighter David, not your mewling accusers. Enjoy your time away from them.

Ash Serban
6 years ago

Hello, all! I’ve been creeping here for a while and leaving the odd comment every so often without any formal introduction. I’m an undergraduate psychology student and though I don’t have an official license to diagnose mental illness /yet/, from reading these posts it sounds like the whole collective bunch of MRAsshats (clever term, I like it) meets enough of the DSM-V’s criteria to be diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Possibly others too, so I’ll continue my creeping.

Also, you all seem like really nice and really awesome people 🙂

moldybrehd
6 years ago

(I clicked on the Twitter! banner in the sidebar but all I got was David’s tweets announcing his recent posts, nothing on the JB twitter melee.)

Twitter’s got a new weird tablike system – when you click on dave’s twitter link button, and have then clicked on his name to go to his twitter feed, you *then* have to click on ‘tweets and replies’.

Cuz Twitter’s just awesome that way.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

This is the real reason ‘rape culture’ exists, to continue the victimisation of women

This is the best part of dudebro’s rant, imo, in that it’s actually true if you know what the word “victimization” means, which he doesn’t.

dustedeste
dustedeste
6 years ago

Oops, sorry. That’s actually a chart showing the average annual output prices for potatoes in Scotland from 2003 to 2012. So in case you were wondering about that, you’re welcome!

I just want you all to know that this is cracking me up because “potato” is the slang equivalent in Italian to “pussy” in English.

Marie
Marie
6 years ago

@Ash

uuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeegggggggggggggghhhhhhh

On one hand I think I should welcome you.

On the other hand what the fuck is wrong with you do not try to diagnose people over the internet.

On the third hand, as someone with a mental illness, fuck you, and you sound like one of those psychs I woulld not. get. along. with. at. all.

dustedeste
dustedeste
6 years ago

Hey Ash Serban! Welcome. I have a BS in psychology, but just as a note, that doesn’t mean I go around throwing out diagnoses. I don’t want you to feel like I’m jumping on you for this, because I understand the appeal of putting things into boxes they seem to fit in, especially when those boxes are the boxes you’re studying! But really, you do not know enough to be throwing around diagnoses, neither about the people you’re pinning them on, nor, honestly, about the diagnoses themselves. You’re an undergrad in a track that needs a doctorate to be doing that – and even someone with that doctorate would be on shaky ground making that kind of connection, especially when pinning it on a whole group! – so keep that in mind.

Additionally, it can be really counterproductive to attribute all problematic behavior to mental disorders, as it contributes to the demonization of people who actually do have those disorders! People are actually fully capable of being huge buttholes without being neuroatypical.

Again, hugs and welcome, I hope you don’t feel like I’m attacking you personally – it’s just a bit of a phase a lot of psych majors go through! I’ve been there myself <3

Marie
Marie
6 years ago

@dustedeste

Dang, I feel like super uneducated, because I have no idea what a BS is. My brain is pulling out ‘bullshit’ but I am guessing from context that is not what you meant XD

fromafar2013
6 years ago

@ dustedeste

I just want you all to know that this is cracking me up because “potato” is the slang equivalent in Italian to “pussy” in English.

Ahhh, I did not know that! That’s hilarious!

Wait… my Italian MIL calls my 4 year old niece ‘Potato’ 0_o;

Howard Bannister
6 years ago

@Marie

Bachelor’s in Science

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

And he’s pissed off that these “toys” can “take away” some of his other “things,” his “seed,” aka, children.

Yep. From his perspective it’s like his bike bailed and took his game console and his model airplanes with it. Toys aren’t supposed to have agency.

Ash Serban
6 years ago

@Marie,
Noooo, I’m sorry I came off that way. I meant from what they portray themselves on their websites and subreddits and such it makes them appear that they may have these PDs. You’re right: I can’t, by any means, diagnose anyone with anything because that would mean finishing my training and I would need to talk to said MRAs /in person/ to get a feel for their /actual/ state of mind.

I’m sorry I sounded like someone who hates people with mental illnesses to you. I got involved in this field of study because I have cyclothymia and mood disorders run all throughout my family. And this wasn’t supposed to be able-ist; I don’t think mental illnesses /themselves/ are bad, it’s a lack of awareness and control of one when someone does have one. From what these guys are saying, they’re not at all aware of what they sound like.

contrapangloss
6 years ago

Bachelors of science, as opposed to a Bachelors of Arts (BA)

Marie
Marie
6 years ago

@howard.

Sweet. Thanks for explaining :3

dustedeste
dustedeste
6 years ago

@fromafar2013:

It might be a regional thing! But also Italians are weird, iunno.

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