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When anonymous threats are not-so anonymous

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When feminists are besieged with threatening messages after being targeted by Men’s Rights Activists, MRAs sometimes ask how we know for sure that the messages (or at least a good portion of them) are being sent by MRAs. And the answer is that, in most cases, we don’t, at least not beyond a reasonable doubt, because most people sending threatening messages have the good sense to do so anonymously.

So it is possible, at least theoretically, that when, say, a feminist blogger gets threatening messages shortly after MRAs start posting nasty things about her on their blogs and in their various forums, it is not MRAs sending the messages but angry ornithologists who, for no reason whatsoever, collectively decided to pick on a feminist blogger that day. Seems unlikely, but it’s possible.

Other times, though, we do know who is sending the threats, because, conveniently enough, they do so under their own name or using their MRA identity online.

That was the case, you might recall, when Australian MRA and fanatical A Voice for Men supporter Frank James Spencer, also known as KARMA MRA MGTOW, left me a creepy, vaguely threatening voicemail message one night at 1:38 AM. That was the case with many of those posting threatening YouTube comments about a certain inadvertently famous Canadian feminist.

And that was the case last night when a longtime MRA known as Masculist Man tried to post a threatening message in the comments to a post of mine about a threatening comment directed at me on The Spearhead. The Spearhead comment, you may remember, involved a weird and elaborate anal rape fantasy. I noted in my post that the comment had gotten 10 upvotes, no downvotes.

Masculist Man added his two cents (click for larger version):

Submitted on 2014/05/16 at 9:07 pm  Actually 17 upvotes,including mine. I could ask the entire manosphere to vote on this. We should have that up to 500 upvotes by morning.  Eat shit asshole

He’s probably right about the 500 upvotes. Apparently rape threats are a form of Human Rights activism.

I wrote about a ranty blog  post of Mr. Man’s some time ago, and he’s written several posts about me, or at least about someone he calls Dave Fooltrelle. I let him comment here for a time as well. He was always obnoxious, though never quite this obnoxious.

Mr. Man’s blog is called, creatively, Men’s Rights Blog. In addition to the aforementioned ranty post, it features a cartoony avatar of himself wearing a fedora and brandishing a sword, with the caption “I’ll cut ya.” As part of his “activism,” he’s put up a page of anti-feminist “memes,” many based on photos of real feminists, including me. The blog has been around since 2007.

In his profile on Blogger, he declares

I’ve been a masculist for over 20 years and have been very activist,both on and offline. I’ve debated phonies and feminists and have prevailed over both.

He lists Warren Farrell’s The Myth of Male Power as one of his favorite books, and Neil LaBute’s misogynistic fantasy In The Company of Men as one of his favorite films.

And if you follow the link to Mr. Man’s Facebook page, you can take a look at his small collection of Facebook friends, including AVFM’s Paul Elam and MRA lawyer Roy Den Hollander, as well as the groups he supports, including the National Coalition for Men, the Men’s Human Rights Movement Facebook group, and assorted anti-VAWA (Violence Against Women Act) groups.

So, yeah, I think it’s safe to say that this threatening comment came from an MRA.

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gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
10 years ago

Yes, and

And also a poopyhead

is the cherry on that particular sundae

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Consistency isn’t something we can expect from bigots. Male feminists must just be trying to get in our pants. But, we’re all horrible, hideous, shrews no man would ever want and that’s why we’re feminists. It doesn’t make sense, but neither does anything else they say or do.

grumpycatisagirl
grumpycatisagirl
10 years ago

We are wannabe lesbian feminists? Again, what?

daintydougal
daintydougal
10 years ago

Also all male feminists are gamma zetas so couldn’t even hope for the 15 year old self hating Christian servant wife all the true redpillalphamasculins are married to.
Their only hope is to trick us disgusting lesbians by not being completely objectionable arseholes. Pft. So betamangina.

daintydougal
daintydougal
10 years ago

I think the feemales are lesbian feminists, the men are wannabe’s like our leader FOOLtrelle.
If you don’t fit into one of the above categories TOO FRIKKIN BAD. So alpha.

Ally S
10 years ago

Fooltrelle sounds like some bad insult made by a villain from The Tick.

banshee
banshee
10 years ago

“Fooltrelle” reminds me of the childish names has-been PUA guru Ross Jeffries gave to his competition (like “David deAnushole” for David DeAngelo. Ugh, such leaden wit.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

And yet, despite his infamy within the MRM and the seething hatred they have for him, David still doesn’t (correct me if I’m wrong!) get as many threats as the female bloggers they hate. I WONDER WHY?

acrannymint
10 years ago

I know Harlan Ellison is a major asshole but I kinda liked “A boy and his dog”. I think it was the fact that the dog was the smartest individual in the entire movie and had the best lines.
Other fucked up movies – Weekend Jean-Luc Goddard and The lost continent

Shaenon
10 years ago

When “In the Company of Men” came out, most audiences took it as a satire of sexist corporate-bro culture. Then Neil LaBute went on to make over-the-top misogynistic movies like “The Shape of Things” and the amazing Nic Cage “Wicker Man,” and people started to get the uncomfortable impression that his early movies weren’t meant to be satire.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

The Nic Cage version of Wicker Man is one of the funniest movies ever made. Shame that they didn’t make it that way on purpose.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

I’d forgotten Neil Labute did the Wicker Man remake. That kind of makes me not to want to give In the Company of Men the benefit of the doubt and watch it again.

Tangentially, True Detective is on my watch list. It was very well done and it seemed that season 1 was about misogyny not misogyny itself, but if season 2 doesn’t change things up; I’m out. No matter how critically acclaimed it is.

katz
10 years ago

It’s a terribly clever play on the fact that David is spineless. You see because jellyfishes don’t have spines.

I thought that they meant that David started life as a stationary polyp but later budded and became a medusa. I’m totally wrong 🙁

katz
10 years ago

Or maybe they meant that scientists have spliced David’s genes into cats to make them glow in the dark.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

In case anyone wonders why the fuck scientists would want to make cats glow in the dark, the answer is… they don’t. Glowing in the dark is a marker for successful genetic modification. It is just about the first thing that scientists trying to modify an animal try, because it is easy to test for.

katz
10 years ago

In case anyone wonders why the fuck scientists would want to make cats glow in the dark, the answer is… they don’t.

Au contraire, speaking as a scientist, I most adamantly do want to make cats glow in the dark.

(But yes, contrary to some of the reporting, they weren’t just hanging around going “you know what we should do? MAKE CATS GLOW!”)

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

(But yes, contrary to some of the reporting, they weren’t just hanging around going “you know what we should do? MAKE CATS GLOW!”)

Well, what a boring bunch of people then!

katz
10 years ago

Speaking of cats, look who just arrived!

kittehserf
10 years ago

Baby kitties! WANT!

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Ginger kittens!!!!!!!!!!!!!

katz
10 years ago

I got to go to the shelter and pick out any litter I wanted. The mom’s a sweetie, too. Guess what color she is.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Do you have the mom too?

kittehserf
10 years ago

Um … glow-in-the-dark green?

katz
10 years ago

Do you have the mom too?

Yes, she’s just not in the picture.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

Cats are great. I had hell cramps today and had to work 5 hours (but I have a week off next week), but Jade crawling onto my lap while I was curled up waiting for the painkiller to kick in made my day all right.