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Vox Day: "The concept of marital rape is not merely an oxymoron, it is an attack on the institution of marriage, on the concept of objective law, and indeed, on the core foundation of human civilization itself."

Anti-rape protest in India
Anti-rape protest in India

Apparently worried that the world might forget what a thoroughly reprehensible human being he is, fantasy author and freelance bigot Vox Day (Theodore Beale) has decided to bring up the issue of marital rape again – in order to assert, as he has many times in the past, that marital rape doesn’t actually exist.

In a post yesterday on his blog Vox Populi, Beale notes with obvious pleasure that an Indian judge recently ruled that marital sex, “even if forcible, is not rape,” thus upholding a section of the Indian Penal Code that refuses to acknowledge marital rape as rape.

Beale crows:

Some of my dimmer critics have attempted to make a meal out of my factual statement: a man cannot rape his wife. But that is not only a fact, it is the explicit law in the greater part of the world, just as it is part of the English Common Law. …

The fact that some of the lawless governments in the decadent, demographically dying West presently call some forms of sex between a husband and wife “rape” does not transform marital sex into rape any more than a law that declared all vaginal intercourse to be rape would make it so.

Unfortunately for Beale, simply declaring that the world is on his side on this one does not make it so. It not simply a handful of “ lawless governments in the decadent, demographically dying West” that see marital rape for what it is. The United Nations has recognized marital rape as a human rights violation for more than two decades. And the world is coming around to this point of view.

While (as of 2011) only 52 countries had laws specifically criminalizing marital rape, many others don’t have a “marital rape” exemption to their rape laws, meaning that in more than 100 countries marital rape can be prosecuted. And that number will inevitably grow.

Here’s a map from Wikipedia showing the countries (in red) in which marital rape is illegal. The countries in black allow marital rape. In the other countries, it’s a bit more complicated. (See here for the details.)

From Wikipedia.
From Wikipedia.

But for now, at least, Beale is happy for another chance to explain the toxic “logic” behind his assertion that “marital rape” is impossible.

Anyone with a basic grasp of logic who thinks about the subject of “marital rape” for more than ten seconds will quickly realize that marriage grants consent on an ongoing basis. This has to be the case, otherwise every time one partner wakes the other up in an intimate manner or has sex with an inebriated spouse, rape has been committed.

Now, by Beale’s logic, a husband is entitled to force his wife to have sex over her screaming objections. Since “consent is ongoing,” in Beale’s version of marriage, a woman could say no or even fight back against her husband’s advances, but none of this would count as non-consent because once a woman is married there is no such thing.

But of course Beale doesn’t want to have to defend what is obviously – at least to anyone with any humanity – violent rape. So he tries instead to restrict the debate to the seemingly innocuous practice of “wake-up sex.” After all, what guy doesn’t want to be woken up with a blow job?

But even this example isn’t as persuasive as he thinks it is. Some people like to be woken up in an “intimate manner,” at least some of the time; some don’t, and you don’t get to override their desire not to be sexually manhandled in their sleep just because you’re married to them. And while drunk sex is not necessarily rape, marriage doesn’t give you the right to force sex on a partner who is intoxicated to the point of incapacity.

And for those who wish to argue that consent can be withdrawn, there is a word for withdrawing consent in a marriage. That word is “divorce”.

No, that word is “no.” There is no such thing as ongoing consent to sex. The fact that you are married to someone doesn’t give you the right to have sex with them whenever and wherever you want, whether they want to or not, any more than the fact that someone is a professional boxer gives you the right to punch them in the head any time you feel like it.

The concept of marital rape is not merely an oxymoron, it is an attack on the institution of marriage, on the concept of objective law, and indeed, on the core foundation of human civilization itself.

No, Mr. Beale, you having the right to do whatever you want to with your dick is not the basis of civilization itself. Civilization, in fact, is built in part on the repression of some of our darkest desires. Part of growing up is reconciling ourselves to the sad fact that we can’t just do whatever the hell we want to all the time; Freud described this as putting behind the “pleasure principle” of infancy and early childhood for the “reality principle” that governs the more mature mind.

Beale seems to be driven not only by a desire for instant sexual gratification, whenever and wherever he wants, but also by a certain degree of sexual insecurity. In a previous post on the subject, he wrote:

If a woman believes in the concept of marital rape, absolutely do not marry her! It would make no sense whatsoever to marry a woman who believes that being married to her grants her husband no more sexual privilege than the next unemployed musician who happens to catch her eye.

Beale seems to think that if married women are allowed to say no to their husbands, they’ll desert these poor beta schlubs en masse in favor of scruffy alphas with guitars. At the root of all his arguments against the idea of marital rape is an obvious terror of unrestricted female choice.

In a way Beale’s petulant, self-serving defenses of marital rape serve a positive function, in that they help to remind us how abhorrent the practice is and how nonsensical the “arguments” in favor of allowing it really are.

Every time he opens his mouth on the subject, he helps to strengthen the growing consensus against marital rape.

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Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@Ally

D’aww. Those cats are adorable. (and one of them kinda looks like my guinea pig. :P)

Ken L.
Ken L.
10 years ago

@Howard Bannister

Russia is not pushing an anti- gay agenda. it as an anti-gay agenda. yes we in the USA have a problem but we not arresting people for talk about gay rights. Also Those in power be they a majority or minority dictate thing. there are many pro-gay Russian but they are not in power so for all intent and purpose they don’t matter by and large.

@Marie

I’m sorry your uncomfortable with my thoughts but I’ll use they words I want. I know everything has shades of gray but at some point the slack runs out and for Russia in my view that time is now,

katz
10 years ago

I’m sorry your uncomfortable with my thoughts but I’ll use they words I want.

So…not really sorry then.

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@ken L

I’m sorry your uncomfortable with my thoughts but I’ll use they words I want.

and I’ll be majorly suspicious of you for your choice of words. Deal with it.

yes we in the USA have a problem but we not arresting people for talk about gay rights

Aaaannndd we still have a problem. That you cannot brush under the rug. And you cannot lord over other people for having the same problem, but more so. Because the amount of USian’s I’ve seen ignore queerphobia in the US and act like it’s such a problem in other places piss. me. the fuck. off.

Ken L.
Ken L.
10 years ago

@katz

no, I don’t like to make people uncomfortable but I’m not going to lie about what I think.
i know honesty is a rare think in our world especially the on-line world but I try.

Ken L.
Ken L.
10 years ago

@marie
I know it piss me off too but the idea it all equal is wrong. I would bet you a cake (sorry I poor but i can get eggs,sugar, and flour.) gay people would much rather be gay in the state then Russia. of course they be better off in Canada but…

Fade
10 years ago

i am actually a polar bear.

/honesty is a rare thing in this world especially on line but i try

katz
10 years ago

i know honesty is a rare think in our world especially the on-line world but I try.

Dude, stop trying to make “I say whatever pops into my head” into a virtue.

Lady Mondegreen
Lady Mondegreen
10 years ago

Did anybody else notice that the countries that, according to David’s map, allow marital rape, are mostly countries that Beale the pretentious numbskull would call “uncivilized”?

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@ken L

i know honesty is a rare think in our world especially the on-line world but I try.

Nice try. Other people are honest, too, they just manage to avoid looking like douchenozzles by not being actual douchenozzles. Because not everyone is secretly a douchenozzle and lying about it. FFS

I would bet you a cake (sorry I poor but i can get eggs,sugar, and flour.) gay people would much rather be gay in the state then Russia. of course they be better off in Canada but…

Hi, I am gay! I’d much rather be gay in the US than in Russia. Because I live in the US. And would much rather laws change than ‘every fucking gay person changes their residence’. Same reason I’d rather be gay in America than gay in Canada. because I fucking live in America and that’s where my family and friends are.

I’m not trying to say things are equal. Just that your ‘backwards’ comment is uncalled for, and also you’re a shit.

Goodbye, don’t bother coming back :3

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@katz

Dude, stop trying to make “I say whatever pops into my head” into a virtue.

Hey, sometimes I say whatever’s on my head, too, but it’s usually “fade, want me to tell you some important thoughts on cake borders? Of course you don’t, but I will anyway!*” not ‘lol russia is so backwards.

*ok, I do shut up if she asks me to, but I also blurt out what’s on my mind all the time. Rambles.

Ken L.
Ken L.
10 years ago

@marie

stunned by the way this went. i neither insulted you or said anything against your view. I honestly feel bad that you were uncomfortable. I mean i sorry i don’t lay out my every little thought on here. I am offended by want Russia is doing and by what the USA does too. and because i did not say it in way you like or the way you want me to or think I should you unleash a bunch crap on.

Ken L.
Ken L.
10 years ago

@maire

I a bad baker so when you do get the time maybe you could unleash that thought so i could get a few tips.

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@Ken L

I am offended by want Russia is doing and by what the USA does too

You really weren’t showing you cared much at all about what the US was doing. It was also kind of a derail from the actual post, which was about marital rape.

Ken L.
Ken L.
10 years ago

sorry i’ll try to be more on point in the future. it just struck me where Russia was on the issue.I don’t comment alot online so I tended to forget people don’t know me already and don’t know my view, it goes with my being much better at talking then writing.

Winter Walker
10 years ago

Gary, please leave this planet, and never go near a female of any species ever again. If you don’t believe in marital rape, then you were lucky enough not to have to listen to it happening through your bedroom wall for most of your childhood.

I should have listened to my trigger warning and not read all this repulsive rape-apologist vomit. I think I need a shower now.

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@winter walker

Sorry you were triggered 🙁 Jedi hugs from me, if you want them.

alleee
10 years ago

I’ve always wanted to try Pegging. My husband has absolutely denied me access. No, no, and no. But I want it, so according to Vox….

DerangedDan
DerangedDan
10 years ago

I’m glad that VD made sure to throw in that “demographically dying” bit, just in case anyone forgot that he’s a virulent racist too.

As for the whole thing with his supposed wife, it always amazes me how credulous the PUA crowd is of the people they look to to teach them how to lie to women.

Sarah
Sarah
10 years ago

Do you follow his twitter feed? Check out this gem:

You’re wrong. Rape is sex. ~one-quarter of women climax when being raped. That doesn’t happen when they are being beaten.

https://twitter.com/voxday/status/466988630259822593

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Just when I thought VD couldn’t get more disgusting, he did. I really have my doubts that 1/4 orgasm while raped, but it doesn’t matter anyway. An involuntary bodily response does not equal consent. What a fucking monster.

katz
10 years ago

Sarah: Yuck yuck yuck!

manhattansbalcony
10 years ago

Actually, one of the main reason marital rape was legal in so many states for so long (each state has its own laws in the US) was that, to quote a South Carolina state senator arguing against the law:

“Every man has the god given right to obtain sex from his wife whenever he wants.”

Confusion about what constitutes rape had little to do with it.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Orgasm is not consent nor does it mean that the act of rape is not violent.
It’s a body’s response to stimuli, like a sneeze.
That is an utterly disgusting thing to use as a way to normalize rape as “sex”.

Meanwhile, the assholes have descended here: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/15/columbia-univ-students-distribute-rapist-list-after-after-school-fails-to-protect-victims/

Sarah
Sarah
10 years ago

Sarah: Yuck yuck yuck!

I know, right? I mean, I only read him at all because I think that “know thy enemy” is very good advice, but sometimes it does feel like self-hatred.

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