Jakeface — not his real name — is a “Game” blogger, pushing 40, and living in Vietnam. Or visiting there? I haven’t read enough of his blog to be able to figure that out. Given that the name of his blog is “cedonulli,” which seems to be a pretentious reference to the Latin phrase “cedo nulli” ( “I yield to none”), I probably won’t be reading all that much more.
But I do know he likes Vietnam, because he’s the sort of guy who enjoys joking about having sex with “girls … so barely legal … it’s not even funny,” and in Vietnam, he says, he’s not the only one who thinks that 24-year old women are “old as fuck.”
Did I mention he’s pushing 40 himself?
Anyway, not long ago, Jakeface offered readers of his blog his deep thoughts on the subject of age, and why women over the age of 19 are already starting to look elderly to him. [Link is mildly NSFW]
He starts off by noting sadly that even in Vietnam, he still runs into Western women in their 30s who for some strange reason think they aren’t old hags.
even nice western girls are under the influence of western default cultural context. so many ridiculously illogical retarded things leave their mouths, that you can’t help but praise the heavens that you found a cultural base that still has a concept of sustainable biological imperatives.
“i’m 35 now, i’ve got my education and my career, i’m ready to settle down and have babies. why can’t i find a good man?”
it’s so hard to be jake, sometimes.
Jake apparently hasn’t found the shift key on his keyboard yet.
But he can’t blame these Western gals, he says, for being “indoctrinated by western culture,” and “so it would be unfair, short sighted, dumb to make fun of miss-35 for waiting till after the closing bell to place her bid.”
Well, just so long as Miss 35 doesn’t try to get her wrinkled claws into him:
when the same miss-35 makes some eyeballs your way though, and says “i think you’re attractive”, then things get a bit creepier.
Dude, if you’re going to write fiction, at least try to make the dialogue sound vaguely realistic.
Anyway, Jake informs us that this eyeball-making elderly lady of 35 with the world’s least creative pickup line is
like the homeless man wandering into the bentley dealer, making moves to go sit in the new continental gt. a clear case of a completely non-reality based self image. a delusion, painful to those who may have to be part of a conflicting reality. i totally get how 19 year old girls must feel, when the 65 year old liver-spotted shaking hands of the australian tourist reach for her thigh.
Yes, that’s right: when a 35-year-old woman hits on a man her age or even slightly older, she is like a 65-year-old man pawing the thighs of a 19-year-old girl.
That’s PUA math for you.
Actually, that’s the math that PUAs try to sell to their readers, and to themselves.
In reality the math that really counts for Western expats like Jakeface has to do with exploiting their relative wealth in countries where a sufficient number of women are poor enough that putting up with a PUA and his bullshit isn’t the worst option they have. In Vietnam, per capita income is a little over $1,100 (American). Per capita income in the US? About $43,000. That’s the real expat PUA math.
Anyway, Jakeface continues with his rant:
24 is super crazy, crazy old. for a girl.
17. 19. past that, if we’re going to get all about babies, is pretty sketchy.
Yeah, he really said that. Does he even believe it? Who knows? The average age for first births in the United States is 26; in the UK, it’s 30. The risks of pregnancy and giving birth over the age of 35 have been greatly exaggerated, and the vast majority of babies born to women later in life are perfectly healthy. Even if he doesn’t know any women his age who’ve had children,you might think he would have noticed the small army of female celebrities in their forties who’ve been popping out babies without either them or the babies exploding.
But Jakeface isn’t basing his conclusions here on a close reading of the medical literature, or even People magazine. Nope, as he makes clear, his opinions are coming straight from his dick and his “barely legal” obsessed brain.
who cares about what which culture says about it. that’s what my brain, freed from all the media propaganda, is finding attractive. at 24, you can already start to imagine what she’ll look like in 10 years. the outlines are set. the fantasy of youth eternal is already shattered.
24 is old-holy-fuck-you’re-countess-dracula, tell me about how life was in the 16th century.
Again, Jakeface by his own admission is almost 40.
in vietnam, that sort of age awareness seems to be the consensus, still. which makes vietnam ok in my book. it makes me think about applying for vietnamese citizenship. i want to be part of a culture that shares my innate values. a 35 year old vietnamese woman wouldn’t go “heeeey, soooo, how about some babies?” it’d be considered unfathomably rude, suggesting that my value wouldn’t allow me the choice of a 19 year old instead, that my fridge is only good for milk a solid week and a half past its expiration date.
Dude, you only have this “value” in countries where a good portion of the women don’t have good options. And you know it. That’s why you’re in a country with a per capita income that is literally 1/38th that of the United States.
and this isn’t personal, as in if you read this and you’re a 35 year old woman, i’m not making fun. i’m only talking about biological reality, and my own mating preferences. which also, mating preferences of any man with the option, and in his right mind.
Really? George Clooney, formerly the world’s most eligible bachelor, just got engaged to a 36-year-old.
it could still happen. jake might have some asian babies with a few 24 year old girls. there are two current contenders, which i’m hoping to replace with some 17 year olds, before some heat-of-the-moment questionable decisions.
it’s hard to take a step back, when you’re in the pet shop, surrounded by puppies.
For the sake of all that is good in this world, dude, do not breed. Do not saddle some poor Vietnamese teenager with your spawn.
Thanks, all, for the responses about the media and how it covers rap music, and music in general.
“I hate rap music, except Eminem”?! Seriously? Oh, and that article made me laugh. The Onion. If only he were that self-aware.
Clearly, we need more diversity in the media, and most importantly, in the LEADERS of the media. That is, more diversity in heads of studios, news outlets, etc.
Today, I saw an ad that I just had to show to my sister. It showed a bunch of women, lying on their backs, with their legs in the air, so you couldn’t make any features, except the bare legs, and lumps of hairy heads. I could tell that they were trying for diversity, but all the hair looked straight, and all the legs were light enough that even the darkest could have been a white woman with a tan. It was sad.
And that’s merely the appearance, not even touching on culture.
“African culture” is like “Swiss cheese.” It’s not monolithic. How many different kinds of cheese are there in Switzerland? A drop in the bucket compared to the number of cultures in Africa. Africa is HUGE.
But this is way off-topic. Sorry.
@Marie, I read that part, but she didn’t say it, so it wasn’t relevant. The quote from her was about “Poker Face.” Anyway, I’m over her, so we are in agreement.
I’m kind of glad Lady Gaga is falling out of favor. I always found her very overrating and lacking of substance. Bad Romance is a fun song, but whatever.
My favorite pop group, which proves pop can have substance is Bis. The Scottish band. Apparently there is a Japanese group with same name. I’ve never heard them.
Here’s a song about abusive relationships
And one about sexual harassment
1) didjall hear the story from a few days ago in which a 47 year old gave birth to healthy triplets who weren’t conceived with any medical help/hormones/etc.?
2) my grandmother had her last baby in her fifties, and her mother had a baby in her sixties. outliers, yeah, but still, it happens.
3) I’m not sure where this dude is getting his impressions of western vs. nonwestern culture from, and women being valued only for being able to pop out babies as teenagers or something– his ignorance is so epic it’s hard to know where to start– but I should mention my family isn’t white or western, and no one I know thought it was a great idea for teen girls to get knocked up. “Wait until you’re in your twenties at least!” was and is common advice, and it wasn’t even coming from people obsessed with careers and college for anyone, much less females. Teenagers actually aren’t that good physically at having babies. Western males have a weird habit of thinking they are, because they’re really good physically at getting pregnant, but there’s a difference between those two things, and that difference can actually be the difference between survival and, you know, Not Surviving.
4) I still remember a friend of mine’s dad, bitching about how thug like and misogynist “that rap so-called music is”, and then what does he put on? Country music, with wonderful lyrics about smacking women around, adultery, having babies in every town, going to jail, drinking, crashing cars, shooting people, and general idoltry of outlaws. That made me laugh, especially since I like both rap and country. Well, older country music. This modern shit is boring as fuck.
@ marie
I thought it was in the original! Which would have been pretty funny.
re rap. It doesn’t do it for me. The musicality of it is, to my ears, jarring.
PITOR has always struck me as somewhat less than clueful. A case of argument for arguments sake; and the actual content is somewhat less important. At a guess PITOR is trying, “examine the issues”, but it often feels zie is just being an ass.
Or, more mundanely, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, who married a man several years her junior (both were poets), and, though widely described as “sickly” (from various causes), still managed to make it through a pregnancy and bear her only child at the ancient age of…drumroll please…43!
@Ivyshoots
It was in the chapter about how she said “I really am a lady”. With the quote out of context I can’t tell which part of her supposed “outrageous character aspects” she’s saying it in response to, and one of them was “oh no, she might be trans”
@weirdwoodtreehugger
I actually really like some of her music, but god does she say/do a lot of terrible things :/ here is a post compiling some of it with links. tw- racism, brownface + blackface, ableist language, sexualizing some cultures, transmisogyny, basically a bunch of stuff. I’d heard other people talking, but never gotten them all compiled before.
@Lids – Yaaay, Uncle Jeremy! Redemption stories are my favorite. I really believe that people CAN change, if they have the education and the reason to do so.
That’s one of the reasons I like this blog. People help others learn. I’m an optimist and I hope that there are more and more Jeremies in the world. But they won’t learn, if we don’t give them the information they need.
That’s why we need to be loud, and “out there,” for others to see and hear us. Who knows? Maybe one day, one of those MRA’s who hear awful things about David and his website will come and read the blog, and learn something. Maybe, just maybe, he’ll touch some MGTOWer’s life for good.
Maybe.
But, yay, Uncle Jeremy!
Also, I should add that my mother had me, her first, a few weeks before her 29th birthday, which was considered a bit late for first-time motherhood in the late 1960s. She had her last, my youngest sister (of four, plus one brother) at nearly 39. So yeah, I take a very dim view of the “high reproductive value” of teenagers thing. My mother’s birth-giving years ran from the late 20s to late 30s, which I suppose is ancient and decrepit to these aging PUAssholes. (Certainly Jerkface isn’t getting any younger, although he shows marked and shameful immaturity, which at his age is NOT an attractive trait.)
Thanks for the mansplaining but I’m aware of the concept of genetic fitness. it doesn’t just apply to females, it applies to males as well. This PUA does not have as many fertile years ahead of him as a 19 year man now does he?
Death in childbirth is fairly rare now. It was historically very common. The advent of modern medicine is entirely irrelevant to this bloggers evo psych ass fax.
RE: cassandrakitty
*listening to Tricky* I’ve never heard someone sing that way. It’s like… Tom Waits with laryngitis, but not in a bad way. I’m not sure if I like it yet, but I think that’s just because I’ve never heard something like it before. I’m going to have to keep listening to this guy.
RE: Michelle C Young
I once lived in an apartment complex where my neighbors began every Saturday morning by blaring out mariachi-polka music, tuba and all.
Oh wow, that almost tops the story about the avante-garde accordeonist a friend of a friend once lived above.
RE: ivyshoots
I don’t recall it ever being said that she was trans, usually that she was a “dude” or just that she had a penis.
…you do realize that what’s a lot of people say about trans women, right? Seriously, I feel like you’re deliberately missing the point because you don’t want to admit Lady Gaga screwed up.
@ Bina
My sister in law had her second child at about 40. Pretty sure her “reproductive value” was and is just fine. Which is interesting in that her husband actually wanted to be a father, which I gather most of the creepers trawling SE Asia for children to abuse do not, or at least not with the kids who they’re paying to rape.
Also, while my husband enjoys Lady Gaga, I was never able to stand her music for long, because I swear, her songs are such earworms, listening to one once is like listening to it a bajillion times.
And then you have Katy Perry, who I literally honest-to-god hallucinated to be better than she was.
@creepy evo psych dude
Go away. No one cares about your shit science.
I can maybe beat the polka on Saturday thing? My upstairs neighbor went through a phase where he was listening to Katy Perry’s “Firework” about 30 times in a row every night and singing along. Not sure what kind of personal crisis he was using that song to help himself through, and hey, I’m glad if it helped, but damn, I do not ever want to hear that song again.
No cool rap thread is complete without everyone’s favorite Persian-Filipino duo from Seattle.
I somehow missed creepy evopsych dude, but I’ll consider that a good thing.
@LBT – “FFS, even classical music has a long history of discrimination against women.
YUP.”
WOW! I read that linked article, and am shocked. Really, I never knew anything about the behind-the-scenes nature of the classical music world. All I ever knew what what music I enjoyed hearing, and what I did not. That is a real eye-opener. Thank you for sharing that.
“The essence of a woman is weakness”?!?!?! Yikes!
LOL I’m in the same boat – I don’t use autocorrect, all my fails are my own. XD
@ LBT
You never heard Massive Attack? Tricky was all over some of their stuff.
I have a special fondness for that kind of trippy stoner music. If I ever opened a bar that’s what it would play most of the time.
@LBT you are right, I didn’t want to believe she screwed up, but Marie’s last link made me see the light.
Yuppers. I can well imagine most of them doing what so many GIs did in Vietnam with the children they sired by this or that bar-girl…either being totally unaware that the pregnancy existed, or knowing full well that she’s pregnant or has had “his” child, and not wanting to take responsibility for it, they just fuck off out of country and are never seen again…at least not in THAT particular zone of trafficking and sex slavery. And she’s left holding the bag, and must continue prostituting and forego any dreams she might have had, just to keep the child fed, housed, educated, etc.
@kittehs:
But of course! Really mid-late 15th century is what I’m most focused on, but I know some 16th century stuff, too. I’m just not into ruffs – too time-consuming and unwieldy! – so I tend to back off about where they started getting really ubiquitous. And yeah, the whole average lifespan thing is so borked because people tend to think of the distribution as being similar to today’s, when it totally wasn’t at all. I mean, yeah, people tended to die of now-treatable diseases more often, but that kind of thing is a risk pretty well-distributed over the lifespan; it wouldn’t bring down the average that drastically, like, say, a much higher risk of dying in infancy would :/
I’ve yet to see any conversation start with “lol rap’s so awful to women” that is actually meant in any way but one that takes rap out of its context in the larger culture of music and society in order to denigrate Black culture. Maybe I’m just not prone to judging such commentary charitably, but unless I missed it, Phoenician hasn’t defended that comment or remarked on the response to it, so I’m just going to stick with my original assumption, absent any indication otherwise.
What you’re saying is you’d like to marry a newborn baby.