Jakeface — not his real name — is a “Game” blogger, pushing 40, and living in Vietnam. Or visiting there? I haven’t read enough of his blog to be able to figure that out. Given that the name of his blog is “cedonulli,” which seems to be a pretentious reference to the Latin phrase “cedo nulli” ( “I yield to none”), I probably won’t be reading all that much more.
But I do know he likes Vietnam, because he’s the sort of guy who enjoys joking about having sex with “girls … so barely legal … it’s not even funny,” and in Vietnam, he says, he’s not the only one who thinks that 24-year old women are “old as fuck.”
Did I mention he’s pushing 40 himself?
Anyway, not long ago, Jakeface offered readers of his blog his deep thoughts on the subject of age, and why women over the age of 19 are already starting to look elderly to him. [Link is mildly NSFW]
He starts off by noting sadly that even in Vietnam, he still runs into Western women in their 30s who for some strange reason think they aren’t old hags.
even nice western girls are under the influence of western default cultural context. so many ridiculously illogical retarded things leave their mouths, that you can’t help but praise the heavens that you found a cultural base that still has a concept of sustainable biological imperatives.
“i’m 35 now, i’ve got my education and my career, i’m ready to settle down and have babies. why can’t i find a good man?”
it’s so hard to be jake, sometimes.
Jake apparently hasn’t found the shift key on his keyboard yet.
But he can’t blame these Western gals, he says, for being “indoctrinated by western culture,” and “so it would be unfair, short sighted, dumb to make fun of miss-35 for waiting till after the closing bell to place her bid.”
Well, just so long as Miss 35 doesn’t try to get her wrinkled claws into him:
when the same miss-35 makes some eyeballs your way though, and says “i think you’re attractive”, then things get a bit creepier.
Dude, if you’re going to write fiction, at least try to make the dialogue sound vaguely realistic.
Anyway, Jake informs us that this eyeball-making elderly lady of 35 with the world’s least creative pickup line is
like the homeless man wandering into the bentley dealer, making moves to go sit in the new continental gt. a clear case of a completely non-reality based self image. a delusion, painful to those who may have to be part of a conflicting reality. i totally get how 19 year old girls must feel, when the 65 year old liver-spotted shaking hands of the australian tourist reach for her thigh.
Yes, that’s right: when a 35-year-old woman hits on a man her age or even slightly older, she is like a 65-year-old man pawing the thighs of a 19-year-old girl.
That’s PUA math for you.
Actually, that’s the math that PUAs try to sell to their readers, and to themselves.
In reality the math that really counts for Western expats like Jakeface has to do with exploiting their relative wealth in countries where a sufficient number of women are poor enough that putting up with a PUA and his bullshit isn’t the worst option they have. In Vietnam, per capita income is a little over $1,100 (American). Per capita income in the US? About $43,000. That’s the real expat PUA math.
Anyway, Jakeface continues with his rant:
24 is super crazy, crazy old. for a girl.
17. 19. past that, if we’re going to get all about babies, is pretty sketchy.
Yeah, he really said that. Does he even believe it? Who knows? The average age for first births in the United States is 26; in the UK, it’s 30. The risks of pregnancy and giving birth over the age of 35 have been greatly exaggerated, and the vast majority of babies born to women later in life are perfectly healthy. Even if he doesn’t know any women his age who’ve had children,you might think he would have noticed the small army of female celebrities in their forties who’ve been popping out babies without either them or the babies exploding.
But Jakeface isn’t basing his conclusions here on a close reading of the medical literature, or even People magazine. Nope, as he makes clear, his opinions are coming straight from his dick and his “barely legal” obsessed brain.
who cares about what which culture says about it. that’s what my brain, freed from all the media propaganda, is finding attractive. at 24, you can already start to imagine what she’ll look like in 10 years. the outlines are set. the fantasy of youth eternal is already shattered.
24 is old-holy-fuck-you’re-countess-dracula, tell me about how life was in the 16th century.
Again, Jakeface by his own admission is almost 40.
in vietnam, that sort of age awareness seems to be the consensus, still. which makes vietnam ok in my book. it makes me think about applying for vietnamese citizenship. i want to be part of a culture that shares my innate values. a 35 year old vietnamese woman wouldn’t go “heeeey, soooo, how about some babies?” it’d be considered unfathomably rude, suggesting that my value wouldn’t allow me the choice of a 19 year old instead, that my fridge is only good for milk a solid week and a half past its expiration date.
Dude, you only have this “value” in countries where a good portion of the women don’t have good options. And you know it. That’s why you’re in a country with a per capita income that is literally 1/38th that of the United States.
and this isn’t personal, as in if you read this and you’re a 35 year old woman, i’m not making fun. i’m only talking about biological reality, and my own mating preferences. which also, mating preferences of any man with the option, and in his right mind.
Really? George Clooney, formerly the world’s most eligible bachelor, just got engaged to a 36-year-old.
it could still happen. jake might have some asian babies with a few 24 year old girls. there are two current contenders, which i’m hoping to replace with some 17 year olds, before some heat-of-the-moment questionable decisions.
it’s hard to take a step back, when you’re in the pet shop, surrounded by puppies.
For the sake of all that is good in this world, dude, do not breed. Do not saddle some poor Vietnamese teenager with your spawn.
Btw, have you seen this blog? http://www.swedishgirlseeking.com It’s SO funny… A girl who’s basically just trolling a dating site and putting up all the conversations she has on her blog.
This one’s from page ten:
Guy: Hi, I’m _ . I’ve never known a Swedish girl. What brought you all the way to Texas?
Girl_From_Sweden: Sadly, I was exiled by the king.
Guy: Haha really? So your [sic] a bad girl, huh?
Girl_From_Sweden: Yes, I was a member of his private harem, but I got disgustingly old (25). Got a nice yearly pension of two billion Swedish krona, though. That’s almost a hundred dollars!
Guy: That’s hot. You seem like an interesting person. Wanna grab a drink? I’m not king but I’m gentlemanly.
I need a new keyboard after that. And thanks for injecting a moment of humour into the innate creepiness of the subject at hand.
@bluecat:
Same here, but the guys I knew were shitty for a different set of reasons. There were some who hunted after much younger women (though never younger than college), but most of them just gave up on even the trappings of a healthy relationship and opted for prostitutes. They weren’t ashamed of it at all – they’d talk openly about their favorite places to find hookers, individual women they’d hired, their plans to meet hookers over the weekend. One of them once even said that he didn’t trust Chinese women (whom he viewed as thieves and gold-diggers) and planned to hire prostitutes to be his “girlfriends” indefinitely.
It’s pretty common, and it gives foreigners an awful reputation. I had a girlfriend who I don’t think believed me when I told her that I’d never paid for sex. To her, that’s just what Western men did.
Sorry, it doesn’t stop, unfortunately.
I’m a short, athletic 35 yr old with a baby face, and just last year got creeped on in a mall by some 50-something asking if I was shopping for a prom dress! I told him I’d already graduated. From college. 10 years ago. You should have seen how fast he ran! I was laughing for days at that one.
I guess I should inform my 30-something sister that she’s apparently way past optimum childbearing age, according to guys who know absolutely nothing about biology. She’ll feel relieved, no doubt, to know that the beautiful, healthy daughter she gave birth to last week was a lucky fluke due to her advanced age. Her almost effortless childbirth obviously had nothing to do with the fact that she’s an all-organic health fiend who teaches maternity yoga… Sheesh.
And I love you, Clementine Rose, my precious new little nieceling!
@Andrew Johnston: Wow. Just wow. I feel kind of sick now.
Can we ship these guys to a deserted island too?
[CN: abuse]
I said it before and I’ll say it again: there is something severely wrong with your ideology when it strongly reminds me of a certain abusive predator who used to be in a “relationship” with an underage family member of mine.
I’m an alpha with a creedo
Which is I won’t cedo
And that I’ve seen through
The matriarchal lies,
shit dude,
They disguise
biological imperatives, you guys
My free mind detached from all the media’s crass pro perspective propaganda
I get 17 year old ass ( contraceptives? Have some class!)
I’m the guy in the pet-shop purchasing puppies
Perchance, those lovable fuzzy pets
Which like any man of sound mind
ill abandon
once christmas is overwhen they’re too old to be worth my timeLike 17,1
That’s like 139 in dog years!
My math is undeniable
The numbers all make sense
In the shell i have built in my head
Oh god im so afraid i dont want to die just yet
Aaaah
Sorry, that was weak. This isn’t exactly inspiring material.
Fibinachi, I thought it was awesome. Now I want to film and post a YouTube parody video of your rap as performed by “Fedora-D,” the first MRAcore rapper. 🙂
” so many ridiculously illogical retarded things leave their mouth…”
Aaaaableeeeeiiiiiist.
24 super crazy old. Hah! How sad, he can’t handle mature women. Boy.
@ Andrew – yes, plenty of them too. It’s a grim side of life.
I was living there when a US naval base was going to close down in the Philippines and a lot of the old ghastlies in Thailand were sitting around saying how great it would be because now a holiday in the Phillippines would be so much cheaper, as the bar beer joints would be vying for their custom.
And some of them were ALSO there for the underage girls, or the illusion of underage girls.
I was doing some stuff with a group that worked with and for sex workers (mainly language skills and health info, but also some legal stuff) and one guy turned up with a girl he wanted to marry so we could translate for him (they didn’t have a language in common).
Her papers said she was 14. We said. “We can’t help you to marry this girl”.
He was back the next day with papers saying she was 19.
If there really are any young Vietnamese hotties looking to make a quick buck, maybe we should start a fund to get them to do stuff like point at Jake’s middle-aged belly and laugh…
@Pocket Nerd: Now I want to film and post a YouTube parody video of your rap as performed by “Fedora-D,” the first MRAcore rapper.
And you’d be able to distinguish that from about 50% of rap videos… how?
@Pocket nerd: Sex tourism, and child sex tourism, is becoming a more and more “out” topic among MRAs. I wonder if they have any awareness of how loathsome that looks to the rest of us?
As I understand it, this is because we’re “Blue Pill” and therefore unenlightened.
Ah yes, me at my sexy self back when I was seventeen… and still had braces… and an acne problem…and was still self-conscious about my body so I didn’t dress to flatter myself…SO MUCH HOTTER than I am now, two days shy of 30!
I’d laugh more if it weren’t so creepy.
When my parents were living in Thailand they ran into creeps like this all the time. Oh, if only those guys could have heard the things that the local women and girls said about them when they weren’t around.
Also what the local guys (the ones who aren’t pimps) have to say. Mr C’s family lived in one of the big hubs for sex tourism for a while when he was a tweener, and nearly 30 years later he still pretty much wants to punch any white guy he sees with a suspiciously young-looking Asian girl in the throat.
Really? Is that really where you want to go with that? Because I’m gonna need a comprehensive justification of the treatment of women in your broad musical genre of choice, if that’s the case.
Oh, I’m sure he’s aiming for outright illegal, and just wangling for ways not to get caught. These pathetic saps all think that’s badass.
Interesting how the guys who like ’em young and willing have to go to poor countries to find youngsters to sleep with if they are have any sex at all. I married at 34, but thank God my husband was a grown man, and not a perpetual adolescent.
And not just Thailand. Two friends of mine like to go to Cuba in the winters. They say that child prostitution is an increasing problem there, due to poverty and economic blockades…and specifically, old Canadians and Europeans coming there for child sex tourism. Add to that the fact that most of the barely-pubescent girls they pick on are Afro-Cuban, and you have another racist situation going on. My friends both hate those old decrepit bastards who go to prey on girls, and who count on local police to look the other way while they make kiddie porn of their grotty exploits and trade it with each other. They even brag openly on tour buses about it. Why nobody’s clobbered one of them yet is beyond me; I’m sure the local cops would be only too happy to overlook that, even more. Must be our infamous Canadian politeness. But if I were there, I’d be losing my shit all over one of these creepers for sure.
The worst part is that these guys even brag about their “conquests” (which are of course nothing of the sort) on Facebook groups for Canadians vacationing in Cuba. Needless to say, it totally ruins the vibe, not to mention the friendship and good relations Canada has with the Cubans. And heaven forfend a foreign man should innocently ask a Cuban woman for directions; then, the local machos think she’s been soliced for prostitution. It’s a major, nasty headache, and it’s getting worse.
Age of consent in Vietnam is 18.
*solicited. I CAN write, I can, I can…
Every country needs to create laws that allow these guys to be charged with child molestation even if it’s committed overseas, as long as they’re citizens of a country that does have a reasonable age of consent that’s enforced at home. It’s the only way the child sex trade is ever going to get shut down.
Speaking of which, fellow Brits, wasn’t our government supposed to be trying that for a while? Have there been any high-profile arrests yet? Because honestly, they could sweep the bars in Pattaya or Phnom Penh and pick up dozens of British pedophiles on any given night.
Amen to that. And more international co-operation for policing, too.