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Expat PUA blogger: "24 is super crazy, crazy old. for a girl. 17. 19. past that, if we’re going to get all about babies, is pretty sketchy."

I couldn't come up with a good graphic for this post, so here's a giant chicken kidnapping a young boy.
I couldn’t come up with a good graphic for this post, so here’s a giant chicken kidnapping a young boy.

Jakeface — not his real name — is a “Game” blogger, pushing 40, and living in Vietnam. Or visiting there? I haven’t read enough of his blog to be able to figure that out. Given that the name of his blog is “cedonulli,” which seems to be a pretentious reference to the Latin phrase “cedo nulli” ( “I yield to none”), I probably won’t be reading all that much more.

But I do know he likes Vietnam, because he’s the sort of guy who enjoys joking about having sex with “girls … so barely legal … it’s not even funny,” and in Vietnam, he says, he’s not the only one who thinks that 24-year old women are “old as fuck.”

Did I mention he’s pushing 40 himself?

Anyway, not long ago, Jakeface offered readers of his blog his deep thoughts on the subject of age, and why women over the age of 19 are already starting to look elderly to him. [Link is mildly NSFW]

He starts off by noting sadly that even in Vietnam, he still runs into Western women in their 30s who for some strange reason think they aren’t old hags.

even nice western girls are under the influence of western default cultural context.  so many ridiculously illogical retarded things leave their mouths, that you can’t help but praise the heavens that you found a cultural base that still has a concept of sustainable biological imperatives.

“i’m 35 now, i’ve got my education and my career, i’m ready to settle down and have babies.  why can’t i find a good man?”

it’s so hard to be jake, sometimes.

Jake apparently hasn’t found the shift key on his keyboard yet.

But he can’t blame these Western gals, he says, for being “indoctrinated by western culture,” and “so it would be unfair, short sighted, dumb to make fun of miss-35 for waiting till after the closing bell to place her bid.”

Well, just so long as Miss 35 doesn’t try to get her wrinkled claws into him:

when the same miss-35 makes some eyeballs your way though, and says “i think you’re attractive”, then things get a bit creepier.

Dude, if you’re going to write fiction, at least try to make the dialogue sound vaguely realistic.

Anyway, Jake informs us that this eyeball-making elderly lady of 35 with the world’s least creative pickup line is

like the homeless man wandering into the bentley dealer, making moves to go sit in the new continental gt. a clear case of a completely non-reality based self image.  a delusion, painful to those who may have to be part of a conflicting reality.  i totally get how 19 year old girls must feel, when the 65 year old liver-spotted shaking hands of the australian tourist reach for her thigh.

Yes, that’s right: when a 35-year-old woman hits on a man her age or even slightly older, she is like a 65-year-old man pawing the thighs of a 19-year-old girl.

That’s PUA math for you.

Actually, that’s the math that PUAs try to sell to their readers, and to themselves.

In reality the math that really counts for Western expats like Jakeface has to do with exploiting their relative wealth in countries where a sufficient number of women are poor enough that putting up with a PUA and his bullshit isn’t the worst option they have. In Vietnam, per capita income is a little over $1,100 (American). Per capita income in the US? About $43,000. That’s the real expat PUA math.

Anyway, Jakeface continues with his rant:

24 is super crazy, crazy old.  for a girl.

17. 19. past that, if we’re going to get all about babies, is pretty sketchy.

Yeah, he really said that. Does he even believe it? Who knows? The average age for first births in the United States is 26; in the UK, it’s 30. The risks of pregnancy and giving birth over the age of 35 have been greatly exaggerated, and the vast majority of babies born to women later in life are perfectly healthy. Even if he doesn’t know any women his age who’ve had children,you might think he would have noticed the small army of female celebrities in their forties who’ve been popping out babies without either them or the babies exploding.

But Jakeface isn’t basing his conclusions here on a close reading of the medical literature, or even People magazine. Nope, as he makes clear, his opinions are coming straight from his dick and his “barely legal” obsessed brain.

who cares about what which culture says about it.  that’s what my brain, freed from all the media propaganda, is finding attractive.  at 24, you can already start to imagine what she’ll look like in 10 years.  the outlines are set.  the fantasy of youth eternal is already shattered.

24 is old-holy-fuck-you’re-countess-dracula, tell me about how life was in the 16th century.

Again, Jakeface by his own admission is almost 40.

in vietnam, that sort of age awareness seems to be the consensus, still.  which makes vietnam ok in my book.  it makes me think about applying for vietnamese citizenship.  i want to be part of a culture that shares my innate values.  a 35 year old vietnamese woman wouldn’t go “heeeey, soooo, how about some babies?”  it’d be considered unfathomably rude, suggesting that my value wouldn’t allow me the choice of a 19 year old instead, that my fridge is only good for milk a solid week and a half past its expiration date.

Dude, you only have this “value” in countries where a good portion of the women don’t have good options. And you know it. That’s why you’re in a country with a per capita income that is literally 1/38th that of the United States.

and this isn’t personal, as in if you read this and you’re a 35 year old woman, i’m not making fun.  i’m only talking about biological reality, and my own mating preferences.  which also, mating preferences of any man with the option, and in his right mind.

Really? George Clooney, formerly the world’s most eligible bachelor, just got engaged to a 36-year-old.

it could still happen.  jake might have some asian babies with a few 24 year old girls.  there are two current contenders, which i’m hoping to replace with some 17 year olds, before some heat-of-the-moment questionable decisions.

it’s hard to take a step back, when you’re in the pet shop, surrounded by puppies.

For the sake of all that is good in this world, dude, do not breed. Do not saddle some poor Vietnamese teenager with your spawn.

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katz
6 years ago

Kim, I haven’t heard of Jeremy Messersmith, but that’s a neat song.

titianblue
titianblue
6 years ago

comparing humans to breeding animals

For me, the problem is that when we do this, we always end up comparing women./girls to breeding animals and talking abotu “breeding” with (human) “females” in a pretty dehumanising way. Which gives validation to the way MRAs talk about women and girls. Strangely we never/rarely talk about “breeding” with (human) “males” as if they are cattle.

titianblue
titianblue
6 years ago

I mean, notice how, above, the number of sentences along the line of: if you want the maximum number of offspring you should be breeding with mature females. Automatically, the default “you” is male, that default male is doing all the active choosing, breeding with and selecting, and the default “female” is the passive breeding vessel being used.

Please let’s make a concerted effort not to talk like that.

kittehserf
6 years ago

titianblue – are those sentences referring to “you” as in the human who’s an animal breeder, or “you” the man who’s trying to fuck as many girls (note: not women) as he can?

If we were to talk about optimum breeding for men as for stud animals … well, think of cattle, again. It’s all artificial insemination, so the dudebros would be no better off than they are now.

Which makes me snicker, actually.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
6 years ago

WWTH – hey cuz! *knuckle bump*. Here’s to sanctimonious asshole ancestors. One of my ancestors was notorious for persecuting Quakers and actually hanged some of my other ancestors (after they’d had children, otherwise the family tree would have been more like a stump). Puritans were a fun bunch.

The predatory rationalizers on this thread talk about fertility the same way they talk about sex: something to be taken from girls, preferably in the most degrading and dehumanizing way. It’s got zero to do with actually wanting kids. They’re virginity vampires, trying to acquire power by feasting off of innocence. The OP’s phrase “the fantasy of youth eternal” is pretty telling.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
6 years ago

Actually, a more apt comparison would be poachers who stalk their prey, cut off the one valuable body part, and toss the rest aside. It’s repulsive and immoral beyond belief, no matter how much people try to dress it up in phony anthropological “mating preference” bullshit.

vaiyt
6 years ago

Why the fuck do these maroons feel the necessity to extrapolate their own proclivities to all men? Speak for yourself, dude!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

Because they admit that not all men act like they do then they’d also have to admit that they’re actively choosing to be predatory creeps. So much less emotionally challenging to just pretend that nature has programmed you to want to rape children and attempt to suck out their life force like you’re one of the Skeksis from The Dark Crystal and Vietnamese children are Gelflings.

Isabelle
Isabelle
6 years ago

titianblue wrote:

“Strangely we never/rarely talk about “breeding” with (human) “males” as if they are cattle.”

well…mmm…honestly. I could, but it would not foster more harmonious relationship between men and women. I always noticed some very uncomfortable look whenever I discussed the finer point of castration and stud selection. I find it easier to discuss reproduction with other breeders in private as mucho awkwardness is avoided. A good friend of mine is a cattle behavior specialist, and honestly, I would not be comfortable discussing about the benefits of clitoris stimulation in cow AI in a public place. Though I will say, the warning disclaimer I give to any interested male party has been so far pretty effective at keeping but the most persistent at bay: ” You can think of lifting your hand on me, but just so you know, I can flip a 50 pounds calf on its back and castrate it in less than 30 seconds…” I think I will stay a widow forever with that attitude. Not a big deal as I have not been in a matrimonial mood since he died. …I’d like to think most people are happier in harmonious monogamous relationships….so, mmmmm, having only one guy left “intact” for a bunch a women is not in my opinion, the best way to go and therefore not something I would remotely suggest in a public forum (though I have been known to joke about it with my girlfriends 🙁 ). On the other hand, dispelling the idea that its okay to chase after teenage girls because of some false ideas about reproduction is, imo, useful, even if I did not come across as politically correct in how I expressed it.

Farming is objectifying, and the associated technical vocabulary by extension is too. It serves two purposes: more concise communication (an ox, a steer, a bull are all male cows, with different purposes), and avoiding the layman thinking about the very unpleasant reality that we breed, kill and exploit living beings to satisfy his needs and wants. People buy pork at the store, not pig meat. They buy leather, not cow skin. Anyhow, refraining from using technical vocabulary related to livestock reproduction is something I shall keep in mind in polite conversations. Its a blunder many people connected with agriculture do at some point and for the most part, I think its unconscious. Maybe I am wrong, but I believe its a feature of the Western civilization to objectify everything, gender objectification being a minor theme embedded in a much broader view of the world. In our consumer society, we are very alienated from the death, the pain and suffering of distant human beings and of living beings in general. And our vocabulary is crafted to maintain that emotional distance. Personally, I find the terms human resources and natural resources offensive. What triggers our objectification alarm has very much to do with our vantage point.

kittehserf
6 years ago

Isabelle – I for one didn’t read your earlier post as in any way comparing women with breeding animals, but as pointing out that actual breeders know enough to give the lie to the “younger the better for breeding” BS put about by misogynists/pedophiles.

I’d love to see the look on the creep’s face when you told him about being able to flip-and-castrate a 50lb calf.

pecunium
6 years ago

titianblue “Strangely we never/rarely talk about “breeding” with (human) “males” as if they are cattle.”

If we did (or, to go back to my examples, mice), it would be very different. Males are killed off. When we were breeding mice (and rats) the first thing we did was look at which buck had been used to breed, then we thought about his age, and what we liked about his line. If there wasn’t anything (and he wasn’t getting too old) the males got fed to a snake.

If he had good traits (interesting color/pattern, docile, threw mostly does, etc) we’d keep one, or two, of the males. If we were in hatching season even that might not save the males.

When one is breeding, one is a lot more critical of the studs being used, because studs are cheap. This is actually a problem in goat breeding, because the traits being looked for are narrow (competition breeding being a big thing, at least in the US, were goats as meat/milk animals is less of a thing) and the bucks being sought after are a very small number, which leads to some serious problems of inbreeding.

The nature of the subject that, even with animals one likes, there is a large amount of objectification (mind you this is the case with a lot of other disciplines too, medicine, psychology, interrogation, etc.). The language reflects this.

pecunium
6 years ago

And Nuclear Whiner joins GGG in the “David won’t let me pester you, so I’ll harangue at your blog”.

Dude… I’m not reading it.

The long and short of it is you have zero clue about how evolution works. You are either so ill-educated as to cause me to weep for every student who passed through the halls marked, “scholastic” with you, or so pig-headed that the best efforts of the most gifted teachers couldn’t train you in how to poor piss out of a boot; with the instructions on the sole.

Their is another option, but your tolerable grasp of syntax and the general competence of your language makes the possibility that you are fundamentally stupid to the point you can’t learn unlikely.

So I have to assume you prefer to be in error, because those false ideas comfort you, in ways the truth uneases you. Which is sad, because their is a wonderful beauty in the simplicity of evolution, and the complexities it has spawned, and people have so many wonderful (and different) ways of solving the same sets of problems.

But you, you won’t look at that. Instead you go for reductionist bullshit which relegates more than half of humanity to no better than second class status and reduces the portion you aggrandise to no more than brute beasts.

I feel sorry for you. You are a fool, and proud of it.

kittehserf
6 years ago

Heh. PUAs like to think they’d be the studs, the alpha-alpha-alpha herd males fucking all the females.

Except … they wouldn’t. They’d be the ones gelded, at best.

pecunium
6 years ago

I’m not likely to be very active until at least Weds, as we leave tomorrow for the wedding (it’s on Sun. but for reasons of various people’s religious observance we have to start doing things tomorrow night).

The van is packed, stuff is doing, and we are all a bit frazzled. Come sundown tomorrow things will start to mellow out, sort of.

I think we will have a good time.

kittehserf
6 years ago

best efforts of the most gifted teachers couldn’t train you in how to poor piss out of a boot; with the instructions on the sole

I am so stealing this

jake
6 years ago

Expat PUA blogger, eh? News, even to me.

So you are using my bits to rile up your sheeple reader base. That’s pretty cute. Also those poor, poor Vietnamese girls. Totally clueless and innocent. Jake is the devil, along with all those guys who don’t agree with you (and probably have cute girlfriends instead).

Nice hate-blog, thanks for the traffic. Always enjoy offending some sheeples.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

Pfft.

“Sheeple.” Actually used the word “sheeple.” Pathetic.

Jake, you ain’t the devil. The devil’s got style.

kittehserf
6 years ago

Jakey boy, you’re not the devil. Your type’s ten a penny.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

@sparky, he even used it twice! Along with my personal favorite, “thanks for the traffic I’m totally thanking you see I’m not mad at all”. Such thin skin these boys have.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

emilygoddess: I just can’t take anyone who uses the word “sheeple” seriously.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

I used to think “sheeple” was a really clever and cutting insult.

In high school.

Ten years ago.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Wake up sheeple! Benghazi! Where’s the birth certificate!? Hilary has teh damaged brain because glasses!

I have no idea if Jerk is an USian, but that’s the way people who use the word sheeple sound here.

Maybe he thinks David is an agent of the New World Order and is trying to oppress freedom and liberty lovin’ dudes by criticizing their right to prey on young girls.

Isn’t it cute how these guys think we’re just totes jelly of their cute girlfriends? Like some perverted neckbeard who creeps on under age girls is a great catch. Hate to break it to you Jerk, but no one here wants anything to do you (other than mocking of course).

Marie
Marie
6 years ago

@jake

Huh. Kind of boring, but classic use of sheeples. I’ll give your trolling a 6/10.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

I bet David thinks Arab terrorists did 9/11. Wake up sheeple!

cloudiah
6 years ago
cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

He probably thinks that “sheeple” makes him sound hip and up to date on current internet lingo, which of course will help him in his efforts to pick up kids.

pecunium
6 years ago

Awhh…. Nuke thinks I’m not logical enough to understand him. He fails to appreciate that I don’t, “take it to e-mail”, or allow others to stink up my blog with things from other venues (boundaries… pshaw… we don’t need no stinkin’ boundaries).

It seems he can’t accept the sting of being muzzled when he chooses to be an ass. He was also too invested to ignore us when his tedium was cut off.

Hi, Pecunium. I just read your comment about my post on manboobz. I get the impression that you’re being too emotive to understand it properly.

Just so you know, dude, I understood it just fine. I’ve studied biology, sociology and, and evolution (hence all the cited references in my last, direct, reply to you). Every thing you wrote after the passage I just quoted, was ignored; because I don’t see any reason to expect it to be any better than the drivel you were posting here.

whatevermynameis
whatevermynameis
3 years ago

65 year old liver-spotted shaking hands

Hahahahahaha. XD Maybe my family’s DNA drank from the fountain of youth, but my dad is about 65 himself, and he doesn’t look or act anywhere near that old. Methinks Mr. Pedo Wannabe is just overestimating people’s ages. Though, given that he’s obsessed with 17 year olds… yeah. I’m not even going to go there.

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