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Vox Day: Honor mothers. Yes, they're women, but without them the "Western sub-species" of Man would go extinct.

Mothers: Yes, they're women, but they sometimes give birth to boys.
Mothers: Women, yes, but without them we’d have no babies.

Happy Mothers’ Day! In honor of this special day let me share the sweet sentiments of the mother-loving Vox Day, who took time out of his busy schedule of woman-hating to write a post urging his readers to “Honor the Mothers” of the world. Or at least the non-feminist mothers of the “Western sub-species” of the human race.

Vox starts out his paean to motherhood by noting that women are mostly shitty and need to be constantly reminded of their shittiness by right-thinking fellows like him:

We are, quite rightly, very often hard on women here at Alpha Game. We need to be, because they spend most of their lives having smoke blown up their pretty little asses by people of both sexes and all ages who want to curry favor with them.

Oh, but even though women are terrible, don’t give in to the temptation of misogyny!

But never be tempted into misogyny by the bad behavior of one, one hundred, one thousand, or even one million women. They are the fate of the human race. They are the fate of the Western sub-species. They matter.

Take the day to honor the mothers of our sub-species. Well, some of them.

So, honor those who reject the nihilistic hedonism of feminism despite being literally inundated with its dogma from their earliest years and fulfill their primary destiny, that of motherhood. Whether she fulfills it gracefully and well or grudgingly and incompetently, she has done her duty. Respect that she has played her part in the miracle of life, honor her for doing her part in turning back the dark void of universal entropy.

It’s not nothing. It’s not a minor thing. Without women, there is no Man.

So even if you hate women, you need to remember that they serve a useful role as incubators of future men!

Happy Mother’s Day.

And a happy mother’s day to you too, you racist, misogynistic piece of poop.

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Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Apropos hidden mother photos, this might be of interest. It was a strategy to keep the baby still while photographing to make it look like the child was alone on a draped fabric background. Babies are notoriously wiggly, and the length of the exposure time was a serious consideration back then.

Nitram
10 years ago

“I understand about the long exposures. The thing I don’t understand is why it would be a bad thing to have a picture with the mother simply holding the child, without a cloth over her head. It’s not like in any of the “hidden mother” pictures I’ve seen you can’t tell there’s a person there.”

David forgive me if someone already answered this but I think it’s because often times baby was being held by the nanny.

Howard Bannister
10 years ago

Without women, there is no Man.

Yep; that’s the only way we can impart any value to those women, by associating them with those beings of value, the men. Men are people; women are just, y’know, necessary to get more men.

Men, Men, Men, dammit!

I feel like I need to bathe to bleach to get the stink of Vox’ thinking off me.

Rea
Rea
10 years ago

But never be tempted into misogyny by the bad behavior of … women… They matter… It is not nothing. It’s not a minor thing. Without women, there is no Man.

A similar argument: “Let’s not hate Vox for his behavior. He may be a stinking piece of poop, but poop is good fertilizer. The earth needs to be fertilized.”
Would you be convinced, from the above argument, that the arguer does not hate Vox?

I wonder what it takes to clear the “yep, this really is misogyny” barrier in his mind? If throwing acid at someone isn’t hardcore enough then I’m guessing maybe murder is the only thing that qualifies.

Considering what Vox said of Malala Yousafzai, murder will probably not qualify. But I think he believes himself when he says he is no mysogynist. Almost everyone on this planet – abusers, murderers and rapists included – think of themselves as good people. Hate for half of humanity is not good, so he would think of himself, I guess, as “realistic” or something like that.

He’s warning his readers not to “fall into misogyny” or whatever though, so what, in his twisted little mess of a mind, is misogyny?

If I had to take a wild guess, he’d probably say that gays are misogynist. As long as he wants sex (consensual or not) with women, he can still be said, in his mind, to “love” women.

Without women, there is no Man.

Did the rest of you notice that Man was written with a capital “M”?

The PUA mindset makes Nietzsche seem like a fountain of loving positivity in comparison, so it’s pretty damn funny that they’re calling feminism nihilistic.

Amen.

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

I’m confused. I know it’s Vox Day, and clarity isn’t his strong suit. Or logic. Or basic human decency. But anyway, first he says:

So, honor those who reject the nihilistic hedonism of feminism despite being literally inundated with its dogma from their earliest years and fulfill their primary destiny, that of motherhood.

So, honor mothers who aren’t feminists. But, then he says:

Whether she fulfills it gracefully and well or grudgingly and incompetently, she has done her duty. Respect that she has played her part in the miracle of life, honor her for doing her part in turning back the dark void of universal entropy.

So, honor mothers no matter what they do or who they are, because they’ve done the only useful thing a woman can do, produce a baby or two. Because women aren’t people, and it doesn’t matter to the children how good a mother their mother is. Because this is Vox Day, lacking in logic and basic human decency.

So, are we suppose to honor feminist mothers or not? From one sentence to the next, within the same paragraph, he’s contradicting himself. Honor the mothers who rejected feminism, but honor all mothers because it doesn’t matter what they do or what they think because they’ve fulfilled their primary duty by reproducing?

Or does he actually believe that feminism makes it impossible for women to be mothers?

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
10 years ago

Totally, vitally important non-derailing question!

And a happy mother’s day to you too, you racist, misogynistic piece of poop.

Is it better to use “poop” or “poo”? “Poop” is certainly correct, but somehow “poo” is both excretory and silly, and so seems to carry a double sting, as you are insulting someone but being lighthearted and even a bit whimsical, adding the extra sting of not taking someone too seriously.

And hello manb… I mean Mammotheers! I’ve been missing you all.

Howard Bannister
10 years ago

From one sentence to the next, within the same paragraph, he’s contradicting himself.

It’s almost a truism about these guys. No, scratch that, it IS a truism.

They’re not coming up with these ideas because they’ve reasoned them out from principles. The conclusion came first, and all the supporting sentences were slapped in on the basis of kinda sorta fitting there.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

Considering what Vox said of Malala Yousafzai, murder will probably not qualify [as misogyny].

In the minds of people like Vox, Malala wasn’t shot because she was a girl. She was shot because she was doing something she shouldn’t have been doing (getting an education while female). Thus, it wasn’t misogyny.

Whether she fulfills it gracefully and well or grudgingly and incompetently, she has done her duty. Respect that she has played her part in the miracle of life, honor her for doing her part in turning back the dark void of universal entropy.

So, no more digs at single mothers? They’ve done their duty, after all.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
10 years ago

I am more than willing to agree that Vox and his buddies are an unfortunate sub-species of human. Can we just refer to them as Morlocks from now on?

Mralocks?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

MRAssholes.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: seraph4377 (how appropriate) and John Beattie

That’s it, Xxxenophile! My hubby owns practically the whole run, so yeah, that’s where it came from. Thanks for the reminder.

RE: dustedeste

and, frankly, dead people were really good at posing for pics

*SNRK*

banshee
banshee
10 years ago

It’s a day late, but I hope all the mommas out there had a happy Mothers Day.

Elizabeth Mancz
Elizabeth Mancz
10 years ago

Over on Alpha Game, Mr.Beale wrote a post in which he argues that “good” Christians should ostracize women who have had abortions — in particular, men should not have any kind of a relationship with such a woman. He does indeed value women only for their ability and willingness to bear children.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Or does he actually believe that feminism makes it impossible for women to be mothers?

Of course it’s impossible! Didn’t you know that feminists love getting abortions whenever they can? There’s no possible way a feminist would ever carry a pregnancy to term!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Why is a married man even writing about “game”? That doesn’t seem very Christian-y moral of him.

contrapangloss
contrapangloss
10 years ago

@ Elizabeth,

By Mr. Beale’s logic, my entire family line (including a missionary, a WW2 medic, and a baptist preacher-man, among others) shouldn’t exist.

My great-great grandmother had a late term abortion of her very first pregnancy, on the recommendation of her doctor and with the full support of her husband. If she hadn’t done that, she would have died in childbirth.

Then, she never would have been able to have my great-grandpa and his siblings, and my grandpa wouldn’t exist, and so on. There are a lot of cool people in that lineage.

Great-great grandpa n’ grandma, you two did good.

Rea
Rea
10 years ago

Over on Alpha Game, Mr.Beale wrote a post in which he argues that “good” Christians should ostracize women who have had abortions — in particular, men should not have any kind of a relationship with such a woman.

That is not Christian-y either. Jesus is big on forgiveness and restoration, forgetting the past and “if anyone is in Christ, that person is a new creation The old has gone, the new has come – 2 Cor 5:17”.

But if I start making a list of non-Christian-y things Vox said, I’ll be busy for a long time…

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

It always seems odd to me how many American Christians are all about the Old Testament smiting and not so much into the whole Jesus-y love and redemption part.

samantha
10 years ago

Well,thanks Mr. Vox Day. And, as a mother myself, may I say how very sorry I am that your mother did not have that post-partum abortion that I am sure she now regrets.

Yutz.

Scott Hamilton
Scott Hamilton
10 years ago

So where did he post this screed? It doesn’t seem to be on Vox Popoli. Does he have another blog?

sleepypixie
sleepypixie
10 years ago

I’m really not sure what the western sub-species is, but I’m pretty sure I don’t quality. Does that mean I shouldn’t be a mother, or just that I shouldn’t be honored for being a mother? What if I’m an eastern sub-species? Does that mean I should be grateful that some neo-colonial d-canoe deigns to treat me as a fetish? (Interesting, the word fetish is usually used in reference to objects, not people, but it’s commonly used to refer to a non-Asian attraction to Asian women. Possibly because in such an instance, we are essentially the bit of chinoiserie on the the mantle—one presumed able to fix sandwiches.)

What if (ugh, ick, blergh) as the result of that pairing, I happen to produce a child? Does s’he belong to the western sub-species? Or the eastern sub-species (if such a thing exists)? Should s’he be strangled at birth? What happens?

So many questions…

tealily
tealily
10 years ago

I’m sick of their yapping about abortion, period. I’m over 50 and do not know one woman who had one without her partner or husband knowing about it and agreeing to it. If anything, I know many more women who had their boyfriends or husbands practically demand it. Sorry, but there are way too many pregnant women abandoned after being “pumped and dumped” for the MRA tales on the subject to be believed by any reasonable person. I’m sure some women have done it , but I don’t believe for a minute it’s anything but a low number.

@cassandrakitty

A large number of those “Christians” are nothing but hypocrites. They only “care” about children before they are born. After that, they can starve to death and have no healthcare as far as they’re concerned. Basically, they are just concerned about forcing women to give birth.

Shaenon
10 years ago

Over on Alpha Game, Mr.Beale wrote a post in which he argues that “good” Christians should ostracize women who have had abortions — in particular, men should not have any kind of a relationship with such a woman.

Meh, I’m sure they don’t want to hang out with him either.

What about mothers who have daughters? Are they honorable, or should they be ashamed of themselves for bringing more cootie-ridden girls into the world?

kittehserf
10 years ago

How are these *cough* Christian *cough* chaps supposed to know if a woman’s had an abortion, if she doesn’t tell them? Have they acquired telepathic powers or do all the women they encounter have to answer a quiz?

Actually it could work quite well if they do “ostracize” women who’ve had abortions – it could mean these dudes never leave their basements.

bluecat
bluecat
10 years ago

Can we have lapel badges?

Something along the lines of “Ostracize this, you misbegotten dogs’ anuses”?

On the other hand, they’d have to honour it.