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Vox Day: Honor mothers. Yes, they're women, but without them the "Western sub-species" of Man would go extinct.

Mothers: Yes, they're women, but they sometimes give birth to boys.
Mothers: Women, yes, but without them we’d have no babies.

Happy Mothers’ Day! In honor of this special day let me share the sweet sentiments of the mother-loving Vox Day, who took time out of his busy schedule of woman-hating to write a post urging his readers to “Honor the Mothers” of the world. Or at least the non-feminist mothers of the “Western sub-species” of the human race.

Vox starts out his paean to motherhood by noting that women are mostly shitty and need to be constantly reminded of their shittiness by right-thinking fellows like him:

We are, quite rightly, very often hard on women here at Alpha Game. We need to be, because they spend most of their lives having smoke blown up their pretty little asses by people of both sexes and all ages who want to curry favor with them.

Oh, but even though women are terrible, don’t give in to the temptation of misogyny!

But never be tempted into misogyny by the bad behavior of one, one hundred, one thousand, or even one million women. They are the fate of the human race. They are the fate of the Western sub-species. They matter.

Take the day to honor the mothers of our sub-species. Well, some of them.

So, honor those who reject the nihilistic hedonism of feminism despite being literally inundated with its dogma from their earliest years and fulfill their primary destiny, that of motherhood. Whether she fulfills it gracefully and well or grudgingly and incompetently, she has done her duty. Respect that she has played her part in the miracle of life, honor her for doing her part in turning back the dark void of universal entropy.

It’s not nothing. It’s not a minor thing. Without women, there is no Man.

So even if you hate women, you need to remember that they serve a useful role as incubators of future men!

Happy Mother’s Day.

And a happy mother’s day to you too, you racist, misogynistic piece of poop.

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serrana
serrana
6 years ago

Do we get to make up our own “sub-species” of people now? Okay, I’m a member of the non-shithead human sub-species. You go stand over there, Vox. For fuck’s sake.

Cinzia La Strega
6 years ago

Where did you find these pictures? Why do these women have table cloths over their heads? I won’t be able to sleep until I find out.

serrana
serrana
6 years ago

And Happy Mother’s Day to everybody who celebrates. My son came over with some calla lilies for me and we all ate dinner together. He’s sitting on my patio right now taking pictures of the feral cat who’s been hanging around. (We’ve had her fixed and now we’re feeding her, but she doesn’t have a name yet.)

kittehserf
6 years ago

It was an attempt to keep the kids still long enough to have the photo taken – there was an article on it in the Guardian and there’s a whole book of photos.

http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2013/dec/02/hidden-mothers-victorian-photography

serrana
serrana
6 years ago

Cinzia, it was a Victorian era thing, due to the long exposures required at the time: http://ridiculouslyinteresting.com/2012/01/05/hidden-mothers-in-victorian-portraits/

kittehserf
6 years ago

On the topic, I wonder if Pox considers being a father is a man’s destiny and the only thing about him that matters? Probably not … and isn’t he the one who’s all fundy-fauxChristian? What’s he blathering about Alpha Game for, then?

wordsp1nner
6 years ago

Vox Day:

DO NOT TALK ABOUT MY MOTHER. EVER.

Well, my Mom is a feminist (as are/were both my grandmothers), so I guess he isn’t talking about her. Also, she had two daughters, so she certainly did not create Man.

Alex
6 years ago

Western sub-species

NO! There is no Western sub-species! Every living human today collectively makes up the ONLY living subspecies of the species homo sapiens (which is the only living species of the genus homo)! We are all homo sapiens sapiens! The so-called “races” are at best different breeds, and really more like varieties, like colour morphs or something.
GAAAH, it bothers me.

Lea
Lea
6 years ago

Wait, feminist moms don’t exist?
Equal rights for women is hedonism?

Pox doesn’t brain so good, huh?

wordsp1nner
6 years ago

@ Lea,

It’s like the old anti-choice chestnut, “What if you mother was pro-choice?”

My mom is pro-choice, and I was conceived in 1990. She chose to have me, and if she hadn’t chosen… well, I probably wouldn’t have been conceived in the first place, which is equivalent to abortion from my perspective.

I mean, if she had done the “traditional” thing, I definitely wouldn’t be here: my parents met in their late twenties, married at thirty, and had me at 32. If my mom had married at 20…

Lea
Lea
6 years ago

I’ve never created a man, either. Yet, I have two sons.

Motherhood isn’t being an incubator and yes, it most certainly matters that a woman does not have to mother begrudgingly or that she parent incompetently. Wow…just…wow.

Lea
Lea
6 years ago

Yeah, that’s like asking, “What if you Dad used a condom?” or “What if your mom used the pill?”.

Then that would be their choices to make and I wouldn’t exist.
So?

Elizabeth Mancz
Elizabeth Mancz
6 years ago

You forgot “homophobic”.

Mr. Beale believes that Western European Homo sapiens is descended from Denisovan man, I think, rather than from the African form. I may have that a bit scrambled, because he was quoting a source I do not think he really understands. I’m trying to get hold of the original to see what it really says. He is also big on a book that just came out by a Nicholas Wade which he claims says that there are important genetic differences between the races. I am trying to get hold of that as well for the same reason. Mr Beale has a tendency to see what he wants to see in his sources.

He’s also been going on about the kidnapped Nigerian girls — their kidnapping is all the fault of liberals who encouraged their parents to send them to school, thus turning the girls into cultural weapons…

Alex
6 years ago

lol! My mom is pro-choice too. She’s had three kids and as many abortions plus two miscarriages. And what?

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Theodore Beale…a “bastard womb turd” if ever there was one. I guess he figures he’s done HIS duty for one more year, and will go right-back to his regularly scheduled misogyny on the stroke of midnight tonight, wherever he’s squatting. If only he could turn into a pumpkin instead…

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

Does his mother even talk to him any more? I bet she’s reading this feeling really glad that she got away from his dad.

Our friend Theo is the best illustration I’ve ever seen of the idea of a person that not even a mother could love. He seems to have no positive qualities of any kind.

Lady Mondegreen
6 years ago

I wonder how his mother is spending Mother’s Day? Thanking her lucky stars that she got the hell away from him and his father?

What I wouldn’t give to read a frank interview with Mrs. Beale…

MaudeLL
6 years ago

On the amusing side of things, VD actually wrote “don’t be tempted into misogyny”. I’m reminded of how not-misogynistic his pro-acid-burning position was.

Lady Mondegreen
6 years ago

Some brain bleach; it being Mother’s Day here in the U.S., this is dedicated to ALL you mamacitas out there:

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6130961664/hF2C8225C/

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

That’s a point. I wonder what it takes to clear the “yep, this really is misogyny” barrier in his mind? If throwing acid at someone isn’t hardcore enough then I’m guessing maybe murder is the only thing that qualifies.

grumpycatisagirl
6 years ago

because they spend most of their lives having smoke blown up their pretty little asses by people of both sexes and all ages who want to curry favor with them

This hasn’t been my experience like, at all.

Am I just too female-privileged to notice it happening?

Probably not.

Or in other words, definitely not.

Also,
Gawd, what an asshole.

MaudeLL
6 years ago

@ cassandra
All murder is caused by feminists and unhinged women, so that’s not misogyny either (in the misogynous mind).

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

He’s warning his readers not to “fall into misogyny” or whatever though, so what, in his twisted little mess of a mind, is misogyny?

Lady Mondegreen
6 years ago

Or “what if your parents were into anal?”

Or “what if your dad had masturbated into a sock?”

Or, what if they’d just not been in the mood that particular night, and decided to play gin rummy instead?

O TEH TRAGEDY!

Alex
6 years ago

“What if your mom was a lesbian?”

dustedeste
dustedeste
6 years ago

@David – I always kinda assumed it was so the mothers could talk and comfort their kids while the photo was being taken without some horror-movie ghost mouth going on in the photos. Of course, I’m just spitballing here and I have no sources to back up my theory, so take it with a shaker of salt. Either way, it’s still weird as all getout.

As far as Vox Day and his disgusting, misogynistic, racist pomposity are concerned, as a person who would fully intends on having a kid (someday!), I want none of his disreputable respect.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

Or, what if they’d just not been in the mood that particular night, and decided to play gin rummy instead?

Ooh, I saw a movie that played with this concept in an interesting way. Have sex with the same person at a different time and bam, different egg + different sperm = different baby.

Lady Mondegreen
6 years ago

@dustedeste

Either way, it’s still weird as all getout

Hey, the Victorians took photos of dead people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-mortem_photography

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

Wait, feminist moms don’t exist?

Of course not. Feminists love abortions too much, remember?

wordsp1nner
6 years ago

Lady Mondegreen,

That picture always makes me laugh whenever I see it. Though in my mom’s case, I’ve only ever seen her have a cocktail a few times. She likes wine. (I live in wine country. It works out, except when I spend the whole visit on percocet.)

ceebarks
ceebarks
6 years ago

I remember a couple times when my kids were babies; we were a sight back then, since there were at one point four children ages five and under. Everything we did was a friggen circus.

Anyway, most people either minded their own business or said something like, “Cute kids: hang in there Mama!” Or dole out the usual stream of unsolicited advice on whether the baby needed a hat and if I knew “what caused that.” Whatever, honestly.

but once in awhile some weird dude would sidle up and say something like “it’s nice to see there are still …women… who take pride in motherhood.” The appraising glance, the conspiratorial tone– it was like, ok, I’m not interested in joining your white power cult, mmkay? I usually just said something curt and noncommittal and kept it moving.

So I think I can say with some certainty I’d rather be hated straight out than “honored” like that!

(It’s been a few years since anyone’s done that. Could be that I’m less likely to have them all out in public by myself, since most of them are in school now; could be that we’ve moved, could be that I’m a few years older. But YES, those guys are out there. eish.)

Lady Mondegreen
6 years ago

@wordsp1nner,

It’s one of my faves, and I’ve posted it to my Facebook every year for the last few years. But I always mentally add the words, “…and the Equal Rights Amendment!”

(My mom didn’t drink either. But it’s the thought that counts! 😉 )

(Wine country–you in California? I’m in Los Angeles, but I lived for a few years in Santa Cruz county.)

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

RE: cassandrakitty

Have sex with the same person at a different time and bam, different egg + different sperm = different baby.

I could swear my husband had a porno comic on this subject at one point. An angel and a devil made a bet to see whether the devil could tempt a couple to birth the anti-Christ, or whether the angel would save them from the temptation.

The punchline was that the couple was indeed tempted to great sexytimes… but they were either into condoms or anal, because no anti-Christ was spawned, much to the devil’s dismay.

kittehserf
6 years ago

You’re in LA, Lady Mondegreen? Drat, missed by *that* much!

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

PS: for those Mammotheers who like me may not be on the best terms with their moms, I offer the following solace.

PPS: godDAMN are those Hidden Mother pictures creepy.

RE: ceebarks

Good god. You have my respect; I can’t imagine being able to wrangle so many small children.

Lady Mondegreen
6 years ago

@cassandrakitty

Have sex with the same person at a different time and bam, different egg + different sperm = different baby.

Different egg OR different sperm would make for (different genetics =) a different individual. Hell, the odds of any one of us being born are pretty astronomical. On the other hand, it’s pretty obvious that we’re cosmic accidents, and not the special snowflakes anti-abortion zealots want to pretend we are.

It’s wonderful and humbling at the same time.

Lady Mondegreen
6 years ago

kittehserf, you were in the L.A. recently? Dayum! Next time, tell a person!! <3

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

I know it’s just because they’re both examples of Victorian photography, but the hidden mother pics remind me of the pics of dead people from The Others, which isn’t really conjuring up the awww cute baby emotions the photographers probably intended.

Alex
6 years ago

My mother became pregnant between my brother and I. Had she not aborted that pregnancy, my brother would never have been conceived. So basically anti-abortion freaks are saying my brother shouldn’t exist. Fuck that shit.

lowquacks
lowquacks
6 years ago

How come only left kid in the right photo gets sweet gloves?

Lady Mondegreen
6 years ago

@cassandrakitty

I know it’s just because they’re both examples of Victorian photography, but the hidden mother pics remind me of the pics of dead people from The Others

I LOVE that movie. I’m a huge fan of Alejandro Amenabar–I like the way he’s used horror and sci-fi tropes to explore character. And he has a real feminist sensibility, I think.

(I’d heard of Victorian post-mortem photography before I saw The Others, from the sad, weird and wonderful book Wisconsin Death Trip. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Death_Trip)

Ally S
6 years ago

Without women, there is no Man.

The entire species could reproduce without the help of any man or even technological advancement. An AMAB trans woman and and a cis woman, for instance, are capable of reproduction.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

@ Lady Mondegreen

I love him too! He also does a great job working with actors. Everyone was good in that movie, and it’s probably the most convincing I’ve ever seen Nicole Kidman be.

Kim
Kim
6 years ago

It’s not like in any of the “hidden mother” pictures I’ve seen you can’t tell there’s a person there.

Is it definite that the person is the mother? It could be the nanny or another servant who they didn’t want in the photo.

seraph4377
6 years ago

I could swear my husband had a porno comic on this subject at one point. An angel and a devil made a bet to see whether the devil could tempt a couple to birth the anti-Christ, or whether the angel would save them from the temptation.

The punchline was that the couple was indeed tempted to great sexytimes… but they were either into condoms or anal, because no anti-Christ was spawned, much to the devil’s dismay.

I remember that one! It was an issue of Xxxenophile, by Phil Foglio. The thing was that the angel tricked the devil. He taunted the devil about how un-depraved the Antichrist’s parents-to-be were (and how wimpy the resulting antichrist was likely to be as a result), so the demon pushed them into getting a little bit more kinky (he was pressed for time, so anal was the best he could think of), and didn’t realize until the proper planetary conjunction had passed that no sperm had gone where it needed to go.

The Forces of Good use the power of non-procreative sex to save the universe!

ceebarks
ceebarks
6 years ago

@LBT: it wasn’t always pretty but I’d do it all again. If I HAD to. lol

Not game for another round of pregnancy, delivery, infancy or toddlerhood though.

I’m guessing they hid the mom ’cause she was likely talking the kid through it and if her face was uncovered it would come out looking terrible. Maybe they framed them so it was less noticeable later, or people just understood that Mom was not meant to be actually part of the picture so it didn’t seem as weird to them?

Heck, I’ve hidden right out of range of a studio photographer’s shot making comforting noises and been cropped out later, and that’s with super-fast, mobile modern cameras!

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
6 years ago

Oh crap! Before fulfilling my primary destiny of motherhood, I forgot to reject the nihilistic hedonism of feminism despite being literally inundated with its dogma from my earliest years!

…I think I skipped over that chapter in What To Expect When You’re Expecting. That and the chapter on “Parsing Vox Day’s Awkward Sentences”.

bbeaty
bbeaty
6 years ago

Why didn’t anyone tell me there was a nihilistic hedonistic branch of feminism? Had I known that was an option, I would not have spent so much time in the boring responsible “going to work, going to church, hosting family events” branch.

No, who am I kidding. I’d still be boring and responsible.

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