In case anyone doubts that manosphere blogs encourage men who are already assholish to become even more assholish, here’s the latest reminder: a “Comment of the Week” from Heartiste’s terrible blog explaining why men should treat the women they love (or at least love having sex with) as badly as they possibly can.
In the comment, a former “beta male” calling himself Just Saying explains how he changed his ways after discovering the allegedly indisputable fact that women just love being treated like shit by the men in their lives — up to and including getting punched in the face:
I actually tried to see how “bad” I could be before women would jump-ship and found that such a point doesn’t exist. The worse I got in my behavior, the more they would try to appease me, and make me happy. I never hit them, and that is what made me realize that nothing you do is “too bad” for a woman, when I saw one with blackened eyes apologizing to the guy who did it.
Yeah, I don’t think that actually happened.
It became pretty obvious to see that to live well, you need to be as selfish as you can be when it comes to women.
Oh, but once in a while you need to be nice, just to fuck with their heads.
Now every now and then you have to do something nice – and it will floor them for the next year and you can treat them like dirt. Cheat on them, pretty much do whatever you want.
Even though you should never treat women nicely.
But you NEVER want to treat a woman “NICE”. I’ve had women comment – “You treat all of your friends so much better than you treat me.” And I respond – “That’s because they are my friends and you’re my lover and wouldn’t want it any other way.”
I’ll take “conversations that only happened in some dude’s head” for $200, Alex.
Let us pause for a moment so that Just Saying can indulge in some unverified alpha boasting:
Of course, I also never keep them around for long – although some of them have managed to make themselves so useful that I won’t willingly kick them to the curb – how can you veto a woman that actively brings other (younger) women to your bed?
It’s so tough being an imaginary alpha stud! Just remember: Always Be Mean.
When one woman tells you – “You can have every other woman you want – as long as you’ll still see me.” She has pretty much handed you the keys to the kingdom – and it is HARD to be mean to her, but if you aren’t she will leave. Every time I wake up next to her and want to tell her she is my ideal woman, I catch myself and remind myself to do something mean instead. That is against my nature – but it is what she needs.
Hey, he’s just giving the ladies what they really crave. He’s the BRAWNDO of shitty boyfriends.
So when she tells me, “You can have every other woman.” I’ll respond with something like, “And some times that means I want to enjoy them, without YOU!” Just so that she knows she is there at my whim – and that keeps her always trying to keep me happy.
I’ll take “conversations that only happened in some dude’s head” for $500, Alex.
And that seems to be what women need – to keep her man happy – but she needs to see she never succeeds – as when she succeeds, she’ll grow tired and bored – and this is the death of her excitement.
Well, I have no doubt that Just Saying has no trouble appearing unhappy.
But I love women enough to treat them like dirt. It can be hard to get your head around – but it’s like quantum mechanics, it doesn’t have to “make sense” to me, I just have to be able to use it to my advantage, and that is all I need.
That’s right: being a dick to women is just like quantum mechanics. And Just Saying is the Schrödinger of shitheads.
Yeah, I’ve only heard “polyamory” in a non-marital context.
I just ran into this in facebook and wanted to share.
Long live the Furrinati and and their feminist workforce!
Whoot! That picture’s the best, Luzbelitx!
@LBT
Well, Tupac is a great place to start, and Biggie Smalls too. Try this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWOsbGP5Ox4
Das Racist is one of my favorite groups and they do a lot of really creative, out there rap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP322FWfJWQ Here’s one of my favorite songs of theirs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz2zPByzYW0 Here’s another one by Heems, one of the rappers from Das Racist.
I’m really into a lot of the stuff the Odd Future collective has been putting out. Fair warning, some of their songs can get pretty dark and talk about some potentially triggering topics, but most of its just really weird, really fun rap. If you like Frank Ocean, you should look up some of the song he’s done as part of Odd Future, here’s one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFNaFeIm4bU
And if you like really dense, poetic rap, you should check out Aesop Rock. He raps so quickly and writes with so many metaphors I’m not sure anybody but him fully understands what he’s rapping about, but its still really really cool. Here’s one of his more accessible songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sClhmDN5Fcs
And here’s one that got really popular, that’s a little more metaphorical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEBGCOCxLgA
And if you like weird rap, I submit to you two more worthy candidates for your perusal:
Danny Brown: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0s0XHVUGF0
and
Chance the Rapper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRv2_zAPrhc
Rap is a really cool genre, I can’t think of another genre of music where the artist’s intelligence and lyrical capability play such a huge role in how good the song actually is. I’ve been trying to write some raps myself, and its so freaking hard! I write two lines and then erase them over and over. My rap career is over before it began!
Yeah, presenting women staying with abusers as some kind of proof that women likes to be abused is really disturbing.
As I’ve mentioned before, I was in a verbally/emotionally abusive relationship for a year when I was younger. I was in a really vulnerable place when we became a couple… But another reason I stayed with this asshole for an entire year before I finally broke up for good (before that, there had been multiple break-ups which always ended up with us giving it “another chance”) is that women are constantly told that you need to fight for a relationship, you need to put a lot of effort into making a relationship work, you need to compromise and so on. We do have all this fiction portraying terribly relationships where the man is emotionally/verbally abusive toward the woman in all kinds of ways before she eventually makes him become nice in a romantic light, but it’s not just fiction. We also have all these “relationship experts” giving out advice in books and magazines where they tell their readers that they can’t expect long-term relationships to be easy, oh no, it takes lots and lots of effort and compromise to make a relationship work – and they should know since they’re experts, right?
I really do think this narrative we’re constantly fed plays an important part in making women stay with men who begin to display abusive behaviour… Then, after a while, women stay because their self esteem is worn down, and/or because they’re afraid of what he might do if they try to leave. But in the beginning, I think it’s often because we’re told that it’s bad to break up as soon as things become problematic, you ought to fight for the relationship.
*sigh* I remember an internet conversation I had on another forum. This girl described some really assholish behaviour from her boyfriend, and asked for advice. I said to dump him. Then another woman tells me that with that kind of attitude, dump him as soon as he behaves badly, I was destined to end up alone. Um, no, not really, I’m happily married since thirteen years now. But even if that were the case, I’d happily take that “destiny” over being with an asshole.
RE: Luzbelitx
Thank you, LBT, you did an excellent work!
I’m glad it was useful!
RE: WWTH
Oh my god, I’m now hooked on Handsome Boy Modeling School now. I’m terrible at catching lyrics on first hearing, but I’m really enjoying this even so!
RE: tesformes
Ooooh, thank you so much! So much to check it out! I knew I could count on Mammoth!
Dvarghundpossen – that whole “relationships are haaaaard” narrative drives me up the wall, even when it’s not being used to pressure women into staying with abusers. It’s so exaggerated: sure, a person has to make adjustments to living with someone, but if it’s that huge a change, and one they really don’t like making, then maybe they’re not that compatible as a couple living together after all. It’d be nice if people didn’t have that nonsense being blasted at them, not least so they could break up before any children were born/adopted, instead of going with the “we have to stick it out” notion and end up with a really bad situation all round.
To be fair*, if you’re used to being a selfish abusive asshat, then the kind of compromises/sacrifices required to be in a healthy relationship would be challenging.
*sarcasm
It does take work to make a relationship successful, but the relationship itself shouldn’t *feel* like work. It should be something you enjoy. Difficulties will happen, but they should be the exception, not the rule.
::snicker::
That snicker was for Kim’s comment, btw, not Alex’s!
lol I understood!
Second the rest of you. Obviously you will end up putting in effort and doing some compromises and so on, but it doesn’t have to feel hard. People (and women in general, since they’re the ones getting most targeted by relationship advice) should really feel that it’s perfectly fine to break up when you’re feeling that the relationship is a burden. You don’t have to struggle and fight for it, as if that was intrinsically valuable.
I dated my first boyfriend for 1 1/2 years even though after a few months it was obvious that we were incompatible and it was completely because of this idea that you’ve got to make the relationship work, even if it’s clearly not and there are lots of other people around who would make both of you much happier.
Yep. I was with my second boyfriend for six years, and when we finally broke up and I got over my mourning period, I found out that all my friends and family had hated him. I also realized that in many ways I’d known for a long time he was no good for me, but I’d convinced myself of this “destiny” and “meant to be” bullshit.
Yup. I was stuck with my goddamn RAPIST for a fucking year, in part because of dissociation and mental stuff getting memories and understanding smeared all over the place, but also because the system members who were actually dating him believed that relationships were work, and also because rape was totally normalized for us. At the time, we just took it for granted that we’d get raped wherever we went, so what was the point in leaving him for someone else?
Thankfully, I managed to get rid of him, but Jesus.
@Wetherby Which is why every time I read this crap about how women (all women) are exclusively attracted to “alpha bad boys”, my eyes roll back so far in my head that I can practically see out of the back of it.
Hey, when all you’ve got is an aspiration to be a hammer, you have to tell yourself that every woman is really a nail.
Everything that is said here is negative & I only see hate from females. Men have been slave work drones for ungrateful, financial predatory divorce prone women on the coroperate plantation. We want to be relieved if out slave gender roles of being human wallets & ATM machines for you. Don’t we deserve the same liberation that women got from their gender roles. Do females only believe in gynocentric values or human values. Your saying that men are not human beings.
Psst, David, lost sock cleanup on aisle 5.
Oh good Lord, not another one.
Or rather: not the same one again . . .
Like I want to be socioeconomically manipulated by the proverbial rich man. I’ve had enough of that in my life. Fuck off, Gary.
What females Gary? Female giraffes? Female coyotes? Female dragonflies? Please clarify.
If you meant human females, there’s a word for that. It’s “women.”
citation needed
except that you’re not going to be able to provide one, since no one here is saying that.
I mean, did he read the original post? He must have very selective hate-filtering glasses on.
Men do this because some women let them. It’s that simple. Stupid girls let guys think it’s okay to do this to all women. One dumb bimbo has to mess it up for us smart girls.