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No one wants to plant his seed in a garbage dump: MGTOWers explain why they prefer "chaste" women

Uh oh.
Uh oh.

Let’s take another stroll through the strange wonderland of Men Going Their Own Way, that small and bitter tribe of men who boldly declare their independence from women, then spend the rest of their lives obsessively talking about them.

Today, let’s look at the thoughtful discussion that ensued when one such fellow known as TDG asked his Brothers in Going Their Own Way why, of all the women they have Gone Their Own Way from (but not really), they tend to prefer women who are “chaste.”

For women, I’m guessing the main reason they weren’t so slutty before the 1950s, was because of the fear of having a bastard womb turd, but the pill changed all that and now they can have as many dicks as they like.

Now, I wont ever marry again and my ex-wife was a virgin and all that went to shit, but here’s my question;

Why do men want women that are chaste…?

I understand on a visceral level, that if a woman has had too many dicks, I can never care for her more than a cum rag, but I’m curious if that is societal conditioning or something that is innate to men…

Thoughts gentlemen…?

Unsurprisingly, the gentlemen of the MGTOW HQ forum did indeed have many thoughts on the subject.  (I’ve bolded the most intriguing bits.)

ManWithAPlan had an economic explanation:

Because by going through the “bad boy” phase, they fuck away their only worth. There are three things I look for in a woman (mainly). Attractiveness, fertility and youth. If a woman is attractive and young, but can’t have kids, most men will treat her as a cum rag. If she’s fertile and young, but not attractive, she’s still no good to most men. If she’s old and attractive, she’s back to being a cougar and a cum rag.

Multishadow brought in biology:

[B]iologically speaking women represent a fertile ground for man to plant his seed, and no one wants to plant his seed in a garbage dump.

Second, a man must work to earn a woman, and then invest in her.. and no man wants to work for what others gain for free, or for what was freely given out in the past. There is also resentment for a female gaining sex freely, when a man must work for it.

And that is the third issue, people in general have a distaste for those who are gluttons for pleasure. … It is one thing to obtain sex when you want it, but if your only purpose in life is laying around having sex.. it is like watching an obese person eat.

That’s right: people who have a lot of sex are basically sex fatties. And no one likes a fatty, right?

Aldenhamil suggested that chaste women were a better bargain for frugal men:

Just having random sex is one thing and any old cum dumpster will usually do, but settling down with a woman, having children, and providing for them is something altogether different. It’s a massive investment of time, energy, and resources. Men naturally lean towards frugality and appreciate getting the most bang for their buck. When it comes to women>children>family, it’s a better bet to invest in a woman who isn’t swinging from every cock in town.

Men instinctively know that whores make poor long-term investments, but they also instinctively know that all women will become whores if given the opportunity. The whole situation is a bit of a clusterfuck, really. It was a problem for Bronze Age societies, and it’s still a problem long after we’ve managed to put human beings in outer space.

Ghost Rider noted that “chaste” women won’t have had a lot of other guys to compare you to, so chances are good she won’t know how mediocre you are in bed:

From my observations, the more men a woman has been with, the greater the chance that she is carrying at least one torch if not more for some guy that dumped her. I believe the term is alpha widow. Seen quite a few times where a woman dumps hubby to get back with a guy she was carrying a torch for, or at least conduct a torrid affair with the guy when he came a calling.

In addition, she is more likely to get back on the cock carousel trying to recapture what she thought she had when she was younger. Also, a woman who hasn’t ridden the cock carousel is a lot less judgmental in the bedroom because she isn’t comparing you to the hundreds of guys she’s been in the sack with. If you’re an average guy, you’re probably not at the same level as the alpha thug with the huge cock that fucked the shit out of her all night. If you’re dumb enough to get married/remarried, who the hell needs that shit in addition to everything else.

Demonsgate, meanwhile, seems to be more terrified of being judged by other guys than by the women he dates:

Real simple because in my younger days when I walked into a bar or restaurant with a twat I didn’t want all you bastards laughing saying yep we all fucked her and this fool is dating her. Who wants to be that guy?

Mongolking answered TDG’s question with his own question:

I think the larger question is “Why Do We Want Them… At All?”

Given that this discussion is taking place on a forum devoted to Men Going Their Own Way, this seems like a reasonable enough question.

And I’ll give you all an answer: If you hate women so much you regularly describe them as “cum rags,” “cum dumpsters,” “garbage dumps,” “whores,” “twats,” or any of the other horrible things said by guys in this thread about women in the equally awful comments I didn’t quote, you should take that Going Your Own Way shit a little bit more seriously. Go your own way. Go a long way, off a short pier.

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Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Random troll referenced Howard the Duck.
Holy fucking shit, dude, get better pop culture references.

Hello to all the Human Women out there. Any of you pleased Random Troll is swearing off us? **raises hand**

>does best Sweathog imitation< Oh! Me-me-ME!!!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Time to put in a plug for one of my favorite sites again.

http://weepingcock.livejournal.com/

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

i had to laugh at the potshot to cougars. mgtow’s must harbor a special, secret, seething hatred for older women who date younger men. i’m 40 & have dated younger men for years. these mgtow losers truly lack imagination if they can’t fathom the intense compatibility of younger men with older women. it must just eat them up inside. lulz

Preach! I’m in my mid-40s, and my best luck was always with younger men. Oh hell, the first guy I ever slept with was four years younger than me. (I was a late bloomer in that respect, so he was plenty legal.)

I’ve had just two boyfriends who were older than me, and somehow, it always felt a wee bit wrong. We were never on the same wavelength. And neither of them was even of the “old enough to be my father” range, either.

I guess I’m just meant for younger guys, and that’s fine by me. They seem to like me just fine, too.

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@michelle

Another one had taken the “don’t repeat a word on the same page” to heart.

That reminds me so much of younger me writing. I was convinced it’d look super redundant to use ‘said’ as a dialogue tag often, so I ended up using ‘murmered’ and ‘muttered’ and ‘grunted’ all the time. My early writing was preetttyy bad.

@shiraz

Hello to all the Human Women out there. Any of you pleased Random Troll is swearing off us? **raises hand**

I certainly didn’t shed any tears.

@anarchonist

Great, another dental hygiene warrior. Getting a little gum-hurt, are we? Why don’t you care about real tissues? You’re stepping on my free teeth!

::snickers::

Robert
Robert
10 years ago

Cassandra, thanks for the link. Glad I wasn’t eating or drinking anything when I looked.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

@Randompester, I read the comments, just not the name of the particular troll postin. It was boring bullshit. I couldn’t differentiate from your special brand of boring bullshit. So sue me.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

@ Robert

I am to please! Well, not the trolls, but you know what I mean.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Or aim, even. Coffee now.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

@cassandrakitty, you came perilous to what I suspect is an MRAs definition of a woman’s existence:

“I please, therefore I am.”

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Seems to be MEZ’s definition too, amusingly enough.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Signed

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

wrong thread. 🙂

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Kittehserf

Somewhat OT, have you heard of a site called Lousy Book Covers? It’s priceless. Google it, it’s great for a laugh. This woeful effort was on there – we dubbed the hero Wide Guy for obvious reasons.

Why is there a lady in a way too small hot air balloon in the background? I almost spit my pomegranate green tea at the screen! It just does not compute. I’ll have to check the site out.

Speaking of checking sites out, I finally looked at your blog. It’s so cute! I don’t mean that in a condescending way of course, it’s legit adorable.

RandomPoster
RandomPoster
10 years ago

Wow, shoot first, aim later, huh? Typical feminist.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I think someone needs to confiscate Random’s Starbucks card and put him in timeout.

Ally S
10 years ago

:: yawn ::

suri
suri
10 years ago

That’s the best you can come with?
Typical misoygynist…

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

He’s like the virulent misogynist version of Cornholio

Shiraz
Shiraz
10 years ago

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

suri
suri
10 years ago

Said he’s done with women but still comes here to deal with women..
Typical misogynist…

Anarchonist
Anarchonist
10 years ago

So wait, let me get this straight.

RandomPoster (referred from here on as RP) walks into the comment section of a blog mocking misogynists. RP starts sprouting misogynist crap. He is mocked for it, and his talking points are addressed. Multiple times. RP doesn’t care, ignores other commenters, responds to next to none of the rebuttals, prefers instead to latch onto the fact that he is confused with another troll. Then, ironically enough, claims feminists don’t pay attention before opening their mouths.

Wow. Just wow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such blatant sense of entitlement from anybody. I’m pretty sure RandomPoster has no understanding of the concept of irony, or he really, honestly thinks he’s more important than everyone else.

(sarcasm) Especially the women he so loathes, since MEN don’t need to listen to feeeemales, but feeeemales should always pay attention to a MAN, amirite?).(/sarcasm)

That is setting the bar high for the next troll trying their hardest to show why feminism is still needed.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Clearly you haven’t seen the great trolls of yore. This one is a mere speck on the windshield of virulent misogyny in comparison.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Yeah, this troll wishes he could rise to the level of an NWO, Antz, or DKM.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Yeah, this troll wishes he could rise to the level of an NWO, Antz, or DKM.

Hey, is it my fault you evil feminists drove off those fine gentlemen before I could get here? Maybe if you had been nicer to them they would still be here making us rethink our evil, evil ways!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

If only we’d subscribed to the One True FeMEZism NWO might have joined NOW.