Demetri Marchessini is a retired Greek business tycoon, living in London, and has been a major donor to the right-wing, anti-immigrant UK Independence Party (UKIP). He also has some, let’s say, eccentric views about gay people, black people, women, and trousers, views so, er, eccentric that the folks in UKIP are a little embarrassed to be associated with him. Given that UKIP is filled with bigots in all varieties, that’s quite something.
In an interview last week with Britain’s Channel 4, Marchessini expounded at length on some of his more colorful views. He told interviewer Michael Crick that marital rape was impossible, because “you can’t have rape if you make love on Friday and make love on Sunday, you can’t say Saturday is rape. Once the woman accepts, she accepts.”
He argued that there is no such thing as homosexual love, only lust, because “they go out at nights and they pick up 5, 10, 15 different partners in one night.” Even gays in committed relationships are basically just roommates who still cruise for anonymous sex partners.
And he suggested that black slaves were better off as slaves in America than they would have been living in Africa, because if they survived the passage they lived longer.
But let’s just talk about the trouser thing. Marchessini thinks women should be banned from wearing trousers, because otherwise they just might bring about the end of western civilization.
No, really.
In a 2003 polemic with the innocent-sounding title Women In Trousers, Marchessini decried female trouser-wearing as “hostile behaviour – they are deliberately dressing in a way that is opposite to what men would like.”
In his interview last week, he explained just how hostile an act trouser-wearing really is. Here’s the whole discussion, from the extended transcript of the interview he posted on his website. I’m putting some of the best bits in bold, but, seriously, the whole thing is pure gold.
Michael Crick: You wrote this book about women wearing trousers. Explain your position there.
Demetri Marchessini: Well this is a very … there are quite a few reasons why women shouldn’t wear trousers. The point of the book, was that photographs of women on the street, they weren’t posed, women walking down the street, and the point of the book is they were all photographed from the rear, because women do not realise what they look like from the rear, they can’t see themselves from the rear. And they don’t realise how terrible they look from the rear. And this was just a series of photographs, of actual photographs of women walking by and a lot of people didn’t like this, because it’s become a political matter.
Michael Crick: So do you think women should be banned from wearing trousers?
Demetri Marchessini: Yes.
Michael Crick: What, by law?
Demetri Marchessini: They used to be, for thousands of years. Did you know that until two or three hundred years ago a woman wearing trousers would be executed? Did you know that?
Michael Crick: Well presumably you’re not advocating returning to that position?
Demetri Marchessini: No, but I am returning to thinking that this is an important matter, something to think about, whereas now they don’t think about it.
Michael Crick: And you think that women are unsuited to certain jobs?
Demetri Marchessini: Wait a minute, let’s just finish this thing.
Michael Crick: Sorry, yeah.
Demetri Marchessini: The first thing is the Bible. If you are a Christian the Bible says anyone who wears the clothes of the opposite sex is an abomination. If you’re a Christian woman you can’t be wearing trousers.
Michael Crick: I would have thought the vast majority of Christians in this country today would say that’s rubbish.
Demetri Marchessini: Well I’m sorry, they’re perfectly free to say the Bible is rubbish, but if you believe in the Bible you can’t wear trousers, it’s up to you to decide. Secondly, for thousands of years after that, it was a crime for both sexes and then eventually when they started wearing trousers, which was after the First War, there were several reasons not to wear trousers. The first is they don’t look as nice as skirts; the second is trousers don’t excite men. Only skirts excite men.
Michael Crick: Why should women dress to excite men?
Demetri Marchessini: Because that’s the only way the world is going to continue. If they don’t, then men are going to stop fucking them, you understand, and may I tell you, with great respect, that the incidence of lovemaking in Western Europe has fallen drastically.
Michael Crick: What, because women wear trousers?
Demetri Marchessini: Well I think that’s one factor. Another factor is because women work. The fact is if men don’t make love to women the Western world is going to disappear.
So Warren Farrell is angry at women for dressing (or undressing) to excite men; Demetri Marchessini is angry at them for not dressing to excite men.
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why women look so terrible from behind, Marchessini helpfully provides a link to another post on his blog which offers this explanation:
[N]ature has shaped women differently from men, and it is women who have curves, and as a result, big bottoms. Men are more straight up and down. It is women who are, therefore, invariably photographed for their bottoms. Furthermore, since women have started wearing trousers, this situation has become worse. Trousers are made for men’s bodies, not for women’s bodies. As a result, they highlight big bottoms. Nevertheless, women go on wearing them.
Evidently, he does not like big butts, and he cannot lie.
Big thanks to the trouser-wearing Titianblue for tipping me off to this important story.
If it bothers him so much, I shall wear pants forever! >evil cackle<
What is it with misogynists and women’s butts? I suppose it could be because that’s the main view they get of women – the back view as the women run in the opposite direction.
Him and Tom Martin ought to hang out, seeing how fascinated they are by buttocks.
Also, I laughed, because I’m freakin’ GAY and I still responded with, “Wow, damn,” at that picture of Marlene Dietrich.
Without being too crude, clearly this is a man who has never seen a woman in tight jeans.
Thanks for the Boner Note, Demetri. My ass in pants laughs in your general direction.
I know this is maybe the… tenth- or eleventh-biggest problem with his statements, but how, exactly, do form-fitting trousers not look good?
I’m retired. Pants and tee shirts are my uniform!
Well, that gave me the impetus I needed to buy yet another pair of skinny jeans. Thanks, Demetri!
RE: informash12358
Didn’t you know? This dude’s boner dictates all male feelings ever. If his boner isn’t stirred by form-fitting pants, then by god, none of us will!
When will they realize not every man has the same tastes as they do?
Also what is it with many of the right-wing’s new-found ignorance about how bad slavery was for black people? Are they being dragged from the homelands, forced to work for nothing, torn away from their families, seen as animals, not able to report white men raping them, forced to eat bugs if they missed one on the crops, beaten, not allowed to marry, etc. For a party that brags about being the “party of Lincoln and MLK” you’d think they’d know better.
Really? In the UK (’cause I’m certain this charmer isn’t talking about any of those dreaful foreighn places)?
I thought she could potentially go on to have an interesting career
in the navy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Brown_%28sailor%29
As a privateer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_de_Clisson
In the army
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_Hessel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Snell
RE: Carrie Kube
Um. MLK and Lincoln didn’t come from the UK… this is a totally different party, yo.
Random – watch this one guy do more to bring attention to men in crisis due to homelessness, an issue that MRAs pretend to care about, than any of them have ever done.
(I know this video is really old, but figured I’d share it anyway for people who haven’t seen it.)
I wear yoga pants pretty much every day, since I am a stay-at-home mom. These two facts seem to conflict (I wear pants, and yet I have also reproduced. How is this possible???) Clearly I must’ve used feeeeeemale wiles to get my husband to sex me even though I was wearing *shudder* PANTS.
I just delurked; hi everyone. I have been lurking here a long time. 🙂
Oh this is indeed comedy gold. Wowza.
I may be garbling the quote, but there’s a line in Shaw’s “Caesar and Cleopatra” that comes to mind. Caesar, explaining an outraged comment from his English slave Britannicus, says to a puzzled Egyptian, “Forgive him; he is a barbarian, and believes the customs of his tribe to be the laws of Nature.”
Or, in this wowser’s case, the customs of his boner.
Hi Colleen from Tarsus! Please enjoy your Welcome Package.
Remember when Richard Cohen was shocked, shocked I tell you, when he watched 12 Years a Slave and discovered that slavery was bad?
RE: katz
…I shouldn’t be sad, but I am. Seriously, Cohen, your freakin’ name is fucking Jewish! WHAT’S THE ONE ANCIENT STORY ABOUT THE JEWS EVERYONE REMEMBERS? (And no, not fucking Hanukkah.)
“In a 2003 polemic with the innocent-sounding title Women In Trousers, Marchessini decried female trouser-wearing as “hostile behaviour – they are deliberately dressing in a way that is opposite to what men would like.”
I wonder how long (if ever) it will take these guys to figure out that most women don’t dress for men. I mean, it takes a large amount of self centered ness to assume half the population is dressing for you.,.
“women do not realise what they look like from the rear, they can’t see themselves from the rear. And they don’t realise how terrible they look from the rear.”
He does know mirrors exist, right?
…. Rearsrearsrearsrears /what he sounds like to me.
“ell I’m sorry, they’re perfectly free to say the Bible is rubbish, but if you believe in the Bible you can’t wear trousers, it’s up to you to decide. Secondly, for thousands of years after that, it was a crime ”
Can’t you also not wear certain threads together, or eat shellfish? Maybe I’m remembering things wrong, but I don’t think ‘don’t wear trousers, ladies’ was a big part of the bible. I mean call me silly, I thought the book was mostly about god…
“Demetri Marchessini: Because that’s the only way the world is going to continue.”
Hahhahahhahahaha omigod this guy is pure gold XD
@colleen
Hi and welcome 😀
Does this douche not know that men’s pants and women’s pants are cut differently to fit the bodies they were made for?
You know, my husband has a thing for declaring, “PANTS ARE THE OPPRESSOR! DOWN WITH PANTS!” and has created a tumblr tag called “the terrible tyranny of trousers,” but I’m pretty sure that’s NOT what he meant.
Hi Colleen! Psst, I am secretly also a Colleen.
He should hang out at our place. It turns into a pants-free zone every summer.