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Upvote, downvote: Men's Rights Redditors on the evils of "p*ssy privilege" and women being encouraged to go into tech

Many Men’s Rights Redditors see themselves as fighting a noble fight against genuinely evil, misandrist radical feminists on the internet. One of their most powerful weapons: the deadly downvote.

Reading through one old thread on Men’s Rights last night, I noticed how some Men’s Rights Redditors had deftly deployed their downvotes to fight off the evil feminist misandry lurking in this comment:

SweetieKat -7 points 20 days ago (23|27)  As a feminist, I think the tech community does NOT work fine without females women. Women should be encouraged to enter the tech community if they want to. I'm glad people are speaking up and trying to make opportunities available.

Outrageous! A statement that could have been ripped straight from Valerie Solanas’ SCUM Manifesto!

Kudos to the brave Redditors who saw this vile misandry for what it was.

Elsewhere in the same thread, I happily noticed, Men’s Rights Redditors were helpfully upvoting the reasonable and uplifting sentiments of decent fellows, like the Men’s Rights Redditor who goes by the name theboners, who offered a sensibly critical take on the always controversial question of whether or not it was a good idea for men to give in to “pussy privilege” and let ladies have the  vote:

theboners 2 points 11 days ago (5|3)  It makes sense. Women gained suffrage without having to sacrifice anything (no draft, for instance). They probably got it purely thanks to pussy privilege (husbands afraid they'd withhold sex), and therefore they don't understand the responsibilities that men do.  As a result, women tend to vote for socialists, authoritarians, and other anti-freedom candidates.  GirlWritesWhat has a video about how women's suffrage results in a net loss for libertarianism, and I agree with her.

Oh you irresponsible women! Why do we let you do anything?

I mean, aside from letting GirlWritesWhat make YouTube videos; that’s ok.

It might be time for that blinking

 

 

gif to remind possibly literal-minded readers that I do not actually agree with theboners or think SweetieKat is a reincarnation of Valerie Solanas.

 

 

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katz
10 years ago

Point of order: Repeat flounces are cumulative, so Asixpack is now losing 4 points for each post. It also applies to cross-thread posting.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

I suspect that dear Asixpack will keep coming back. He seems to feel he has SOMETHING to prove.

Robert
Robert
10 years ago

Little does he realize he’s already proven it beyond a reasonable doubt.

Felisha
Felisha
10 years ago

Any reddit site that makes an issue of defending notorious MRAs has MRAs as mods, including AgainstMensRights.

Asixpack
Asixpack
10 years ago

Wow, i dont think you can misinterpret my posts any better.

When i mentioned my grandfather, i was talking about the cultural stigma that exists in society which bars women from such roles. I DO NOT share his opinion about women(notice the smiley) because its clear from my posts that i hate the current system denying people the right to a certain job based on gender alone. Gender should never be a criteria for any job and i believe that women who CAN do these roles just as good as any other man should defenaitly be allowed to do it. Bringing gender into the equation totally ignores the men and women who do not fit into the traditional defenitions of male/female. Differentiating between male/female is a black and white view of gender as we know today. Genetilia of a person should never matter for anything.

“I believe in the ‘best man/woman for the job’ philosophy’
I really do.

I totally respect the women who really worked hard to enter male dominated fields and we as a society should get rid of that stigma which paints all women as weaklings and encourage more women to join these fields so that they are no longer ‘male dominated’. This should not be done by lowering standards for women but rather by encouraging women to meet the present standards like everyone else and telling them that THEY CAN DO IT. Im really tring to find common ground here. But all you guys are doing is bullying me.

Im not accusing anyone here but the more i read your posts and insults, the more i see the resemblence between everone here and rape apologists. The kind of people who bring up the sexual history of women in courts to prove a point even if the women’s claims are legitimate. My history dosent matter here. Im talking about how to get more women into traditional male dominated fields and everyone here is accusing me of hating women when in fact i am talking about getting more women in the army and firefighting who CAN DO their jobs as well as any other firefighter or soldier and how a person’s gender shouldnt matter for any job.

My whole issue is with the lowering of standards on grounds of gender whereas gender should not even matter for a job. I just hate the whole “women in the army are not feminine and men who are nurses are not masculine” argument. Everyone has the right to be whomever they want if they have the required qualifications.

Please dont cherry pick my words and harass me. Im just trying to understand the whole issue here. Are you suggesting that gender should matter while recruiting?

Fibinachi
10 years ago

Point of order: Repeat flounces are cumulative, so Asixpack is now losing 4 points for each post. It also applies to cross-thread posting.

So that’ll be 5 from now.

When i mentioned my grandfather, i was talking about the cultural stigma that exists in society which bars women from such roles. I DO NOT share his opinion about women(notice the smiley) because its clear from my posts that i hate the current system denying people the right to a certain job based on gender alone. Gender should never be a criteria for any job and i believe that women who CAN do these roles just as good as any other man should defenaitly be allowed to do it. Bringing gender into the equation totally ignores the men and women who do not fit into the traditional defenitions of male/female. Differentiating between male/female is a black and white view of gender as we know today. Genetilia of a person should never matter for anything.

‘cept for when you want to think of women as “walking pussies” who are worth nothing but the joy you can get out of ejaculating inside them.

r. Not arguining that we should ban females from service but limiting their roles to suit their abilities is always a good thing. I’m more worried about the security of the nation rather than letting some random woman fulfill her war fantasies. Im more worried about the women firefighters and soldiers who are given easier tasks during screenings and therefore the more suitable male candidates for the aforementioned roles are avoided. No gender is superior, but if im trapped in a building on fire, id like my firefighters to be able to carry me( 6 ft tall, 160 pound man with broad shoulders) if i was unable to walk. Thats not sexism, thats the ‘best man for a job’ criteria.

Nope, it is and still remains “Best man for the job, and men for the jobs” hidden as “I’d like to give women a chance” – but the unspoken “But none of them will pass” ruins all that.

Jefrir, that sounds reasonable to me too. Bit i still oppose lowering standards on the basis of gender but if a particular role like being an officer only requires reasonable fitness, then a reasonable lowering of standards is acceptable. But when you are out on the battlefield carrying guns under extreme conditions, you have to have more than reasonable fitness. The last thing the squad need is someone slowing them down. My grandfather used to serve in the army and he always used to tell us that he had nothing against women but he would never trust his life with one on the battlefield. 😛

oh that sounds reasonable i completely believe in the best man for the best job BUT MY GRANDFATHER ALWAYS SAID AH-ha-ha, he was a cad, and besides, sure, they can pass “reasonable” but those are EXTREME conditions, and also, I want the person rescuing me from a burning building to be able to carry my 160 pound frame, which no woman can do oh wait they can oh shit best man so I guess I was wrong but…

My whole issue is with the lowering of standards on grounds of gender whereas gender should not even matter for a job. I just hate the whole “women in the army are not feminine and men who are nurses are not masculine” argument. Everyone has the right to be whomever they want if they have the required qualifications.

‘Cept a loving partner or in a relationship based on mutual trust, because you’ll be there
in the shadows
waiting for the crack in the facade of their facsimile of joy
to stick your penis in the opening
left behind by a discarded toy
and if won’t be you
it’ll be some other boy
because oh boy
all those women who cheat will go for any meat, and if not yours, then someone elses
and besides, extreme conditions
physical things
I don’t know what being a female entails
but I’m sure it means things that’ll mean they can’t do the things
I mean, it’s mean, but that’s life, right?
————

Dude, for the love of fucking god, just, please, go talk to the on-staff campus aid centre and say you’ve been having a bit of a few bad days lately and you think maybe you drink too much and want to casually revenge-fuck the world.

If you DO believe in the best person for the best job, that sure is great, and wonderful, and worth jack shit when you still think that woman are nothing but untrustworthy walking pussies and no human being will ever be trustworthy again.

Just… Come on, man. Grow up a little. Read a book. Go for a walk. Hug someone. Volunteer as a firefighter. Draw. Make a silly gif. Study.

katz
10 years ago

Was it really his high school girlfriend? That just takes it to another level of pathetic. You were teenagers! Teenagers do stupid things! Teenagers feel like the world is going to end over things that aren’t really that important in the grand scheme of things! Get some perspective!

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Asspack, nobody is harassing. You are choosing to come back time and again. Nobody is doxxing you or locating your social media and inundating you with abusive messages. You lost the benefit of any doubt when you repeatedly stated that you view women as sex objects who are all liars and cheaters. You also didn’t do yourself any favors by claiming “pussy privilege” exists in the workplace because sexual harassment is somehow a good thing.

In the real world, white straight cis men are the ones privileged in the work places. They are the default human. They only have to show up to be taken seriously. Everyone else to work much harder to be seen as worthwhile. It is not a fucking privilege to be a woman. When you get into the real world and have to work, maybe you will see that white men are promoted because they can easily buddy up to the boss and chat about sports while the rest of us are doing all the work and getting passed over.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Should have clarified, I’m not saying no white men work hard.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

TW: Rape analogies thanks to Asspak:

Asspack to English translator engaged:

Im not accusing anyone here but

J’accuse! I accuse you all!

the more i read your posts and insults,

You meany meanpants! You made me actually read your comments!

the more i see the resemblence between everone here and rape apologists.

I’d like to call you all rapists for being such meant mean pants but even I see that as over the line. So what’s the next worse thing? I know! Rape apologists. Let’s accuse you of that then. Even if I don’t really understand what it means, it sounds good.

The kind of people who bring up the sexual history of women in courts to prove a point even if the women’s claims are legitimate.

Referring back to all the assholy things I said is like victim-blaming a rape victim. Somehow. Honestly. It is the worst. Me coming on here and commenting is like someone raped me and now you’re being mean to me.

My history dosent matter here

You should ignore every asshat thing I’ve said and only read my latest comment. Otherwise you are totally victim-blaming me for something that isn’t my fault. Because me writing bullshit – that id totally something horrible that someone else did to me. So there.

Disengages translator. Washes brain out with images of kitties.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

See, I’m being really kind to you, Asspack, by just mocking you. And now, having slurped my coffee and thought about it, I’ve changed my mind.

Coming onto a social website where a number of the commenters have stated that they are rape victims acting like criticism of your own comments is the equivalent to victim-blaming a rape victim? That proves what a vile contemptible piece of slime you really are.

I have emailed the Dark Master and I hope he bans your ass.

And I apologise to everyone for being stupid enough not to treat this as the shittiness it is.

contrapangloss
10 years ago

*whoops! Titianblue, not WWTH.

My brain is AWOL, apparently.

neuroticbeagle
10 years ago

“Washes brain out with images of kitties.”

Have a kitty butt wiggle:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/48cd022756cc8776f3742f56bf7675db/tumblr_n4r3yah3nG1s2yegdo1_400.gif

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

Aww! Thanks, folks.

Kim
Kim
10 years ago

The US has a distorted image of WWII because, alone among participating nations, we were neither bombed to rubble nor occupied by hostile armies.

You’re forgetting Australia, New Zealand, Canada and South Africa – which is actually quite a few of the countries on the Allied side. Australia had 700 civilian casualties, and the others none at all.

I only mention it because the US has a distorted image of who participated as well. Just in the media, it’s not often you see anyone other than Americans or English shown in American WWII movies/tv.

You have American privilege. 😛

Myoo
Myoo
10 years ago

@asixpack

When i mentioned my grandfather, i was talking about the cultural stigma that exists in society which bars women from such roles. I DO NOT share his opinion about women(notice the smiley) because its clear from my posts that i hate the current system denying people the right to a certain job based on gender alone.

We can go back and read what you said, dude:

Not arguining that we should ban females from service but limiting their roles to suit their abilities is always a good thing. I’m more worried about the security of the nation rather than letting some random woman fulfill her war fantasies.

You’re a sexist asshole that is quite happy to expound on how women can’t do certain jobs, even when you have no fucking idea what those jobs actually entail. You then lie about saying those things in the first place and accuse people of misreading your posts. Why should we take anything you say seriously?

mildlymagnificent
10 years ago

This should not be done by lowering standards for women but rather by encouraging women to meet the present standards like everyone else and telling them that THEY CAN DO IT. Im really tring to find common ground here. But all you guys are doing is bullying me.

I lost count. Is that the third or the fifth or the sixth time you’ve said that military (and emergency personnel) standards would have to be lowered for women to be admitted?

What we’re telling you, boyo, is that there are now and. there. have. always. been. women who meet the same standards as the men who do these jobs. There’s a world of difference between saying that women should be admitted for testing on the same standards as men and presuming that women cannot meet those standards and must be given separate “lower” standards.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Telling someone to stop being sexist is bullying, just like telling someone to stop being so racist is. Yep, that’s a totally reasonable attitude to have and not at all likely to result in people in social justice focused spaces telling you to GTFO.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

We’re rape apologist bullies now? Oh, please, asixpackofbullshit, flail more. Deal with having your ass handed to you, preferably far away from us.

Ally S
10 years ago

Within dominant discourses about women’s inclusion in the military, there is always a concern about women not being as physically capable as men due to biological deficiencies in women. In truth, even if there were no cis women who met the standards of the military (which is false), there are plenty of “male-bodied” folks who are women: trans women. Yet they are completely barred from all military professions. Cis misogynists constantly whine about trans women entering women-only athletic competition due to the “unfair biological advantages” of trans women, yet those same advantages are never even considered in discourses about women in the military. It’s as if the exclusion of women from the military is rooted entirely in misogyny.

Ally S
10 years ago

(I should note that I’m not implying that all trans women are fit for the military, but rather that there exist trans women who technically have bodies similar to those of cis men.)

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Asspack,
I have a friend who lost the use of her legs in the service. Fuck you for calling her service “war fantasies”. Last night a young woman from my eldest daughter’s old Girl Scout troop stopped by. She’s always been smart and athletically talented. She could do anything. She’s off to boot camp after school. Fuck you for disrespecting her.

You and your pathetic-ass, entitled, tale of high school heartbreak can kiss my lily white ass. You are not a victim. You’re a snot nosed, Dorian Grey-wannabe, sexist little shit in turns insulting women and then whining that they aren’t wrapping you in swaddling clothes and putting you straight on the titty. Grow up. Fuck off. Get help. Grow a conscience.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

It’s as if the exclusion of women from the military is rooted entirely in misogyny.

Isn’t it though?

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Are you suggesting that gender should matter while recruiting?

No, YOU are.

Also, you’re the rape apologist, since you seem to have women mistaken for glory-holes.

Now FUCK OFF.