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Hugo-nominated Vox Day: Even worse than you think

Strike up the band! Vox Day has been nominated for a Hugo!
Strike up the band! Vox Day has been nominated for a Hugo!

 

So our old friend Vox Day – the proudly bigoted science fiction/fantasy writer and self-professed expert on all things “Alpha” – is in the news again. This time, it’s not for declaring most date rape imaginary or writing a racist diatribe against a fellow author. Nope! It’s because another of his literary efforts, a novelette entitled Opera Vita Aeterna, just got nominated for a Hugo award.

In other news, apparently it’s not that hard to get nominated for a Hugo if you have a coterie of hard-core fans who are perhaps still pissed that you got kicked out of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America, and you suggest on your blog beforehand that it would be cool if they voted to nominate you.

Anyway, there’s already plenty of discussion of the news amongst the science-fiction set, most of them understandably displeased that a racist, misogynistic, homophobic asshole got a nomination. Here’s a bit more about the racist attack on black fantasy writer NK Jemisin (and misuse of the SFWA Twitter account) that got him tossed from the organization. If you’ve never seen what he wrote about Jemisin,  I’ll just quote some of the more memorable passages again here, because, wow. I’ve bolded the best — that is, worst — bits:

It is not that I, and others, do not view [Jemisin] as human, (although genetic science presently suggests that we are not equally homo sapiens sapiens), it is that we simply do not view her as being fully civilized for the obvious historical reason that she is not… The laws [Stand Your Ground Laws] are not there to let whites “just shoot people like me, without consequence, as long as they feel threatened by my presence”, those self-defense laws have been put in place to let whites defend their lives and their property from people, like her, who are half-savages engaged in attacking them.

If sales of his novels ever dry up, Vox could definitely get a job as a speechwriter for the KKK.

On Bibliodaze, Ceilidhann is blunt:

There’s only one way to deal with people like Day, who see themselves as above basic human decency, and that is to cut them out of the community like a tumour. Shun them, ignore them, no-platform the hell out of them. Our conventions, our fanzines, our anthologies, our community is not open to people whose racist arguments could have come straight from the mouths of slave-owners.

John Scalzi takes a more conciliatory stance, writing that

the Hugo rules don’t say that a racist, sexist, homophobic dipshit can’t be nominated for a Hugo — nor should they, because in that particular category at least, it’s about the work, not the person.

But he also goes on to note (hint hint, nudge nudge) that the ballot for the actual award includes a “No Award” option in each category, and that if enough people choose it,

it is possible to rank a nominated work below “No Award” if, after reading the work in question and giving it fair and serious consideration, you decide that it doesn’t deserve to be on the ballot and, say, that its presence on the ballot is basically a stunt by a bunch of nominators who were more interested in trolling the awards than anything else. Just a thing for you to keep in mind when voting time rolls around.

GeekFeminism makes the same observation, going on to note that in 1987, “No Award came in ahead of L. Ron Hubbard’s Black Genesis.”

If anyone is still trying to make up their mind about Mr. Day/Beale, here are some quotes from him taken from my previous posts about him here. I’ve bolded some of the most, er, contrarian bits. Click the titles for my original posts, which provide more context and links to the posts in which he said these things.

Women working is worse than rape:

The fact that women may wish to work and are very capable of working no more implies that they should always be encouraged to do so anymore than the fact that men may wish to rape and are very capable of raping means that they should always be encouraged to do so.  The ironic, but logically inescapable fact is that encouraging men to rape would be considerably less damaging to a society than encouraging women to enter the workforce en masse.  Widespread rape makes a society uncivilized.  Widespread female employment makes a society demographically unsustainable.  History demonstrates that incivility can be survived and surmounted.  Unsustainability, on the other hand, cannot.

The Taliban’s attempt to silence Malala Yousafzai was perfectly rational and scientifically justifiable:

[I]n light of the strong correlation between female education and demographic decline, a purely empirical perspective on Malala Yousafzai, the poster girl for global female education, may indicate that the Taliban’s attempt to silence her was perfectly rational and scientifically justifiable.

Acid attacks on women may be worth it if they discourage female independence:

[F]emale independence is strongly correlated with a whole host of social ills. Using the utilitarian metric favored by most atheists, a few acid-burned faces is a small price to pay for lasting marriages, stable families, legitimate children, low levels of debt, strong currencies, affordable housing, homogenous populations, low levels of crime, and demographic stability.

We should emulate Iran by throwing women out of much of higher education:

[T]he Iranian action [restricting many fields of education to men only] presents a potentially effective means of solving the hypergamy problem presently beginning to affect college-educated women in the West. Only one-third of women in college today can reasonably expect to marry a man who is as well-educated as they are. History and present marital trends indicate that most of the remaining two-thirds will not marry rather than marry down. So, by refusing to permit women to pursue higher education, Iran is ensuring that the genes of two-thirds of its most genetically gifted women will survive in its gene pool.

For the rest of my posts on Vox Day — including the one in which he explains that his orc and troll fighting game won’t have any women in it, because that wouldn’t be historically accurate — see here.

EDIT: Added links to first paragraph, reworked third paragraph and added links, removed a link that was problematic.

 

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samantha
10 years ago

Where and how does one go about voting “No Award” for this ever-so-deserving moron? Please tell me, so that I can rush right over and do it as fast as my fat little fingers can type.

I will NEVER read ANYTHING that this bozo writes. EVER!!!!!

goodrumo
10 years ago

Reblogged this on iheariseeilearn.

goodrumo
10 years ago

Speechless

samantha
10 years ago

I know, right? What, really, can one say to address this level of evil? Yes, evil. I doubt that he could even hear what anyone of conscience and good-will (let alone intelligence) would say.

samantha
10 years ago
Reply to  David Futrelle

Samantha, you have to be a “supporting or attending members of the annual World Science Fiction Convention” to vote.

Bummer days, dude. Must think of other ways to marginalize him. Evil…evil…evil. A spell, maybe?

cendare
10 years ago

You can be a supporting member for $40, which I realize is still out of the realm for many pepole, but just FYI. http://www.loncon3.org/memberships/ Personally I’m waiting until the voter packet comes out. This year it should have all the books from the World of Time series.

Buzzgums
Buzzgums
10 years ago

Indeed, Futrelle, if enough people enjoy a work, that work is nominated. This is how awards work. Vox Day apparently wrote a story that moved people, this is true regardless of who he is as a person.

It’s possible that many of those who enjoyed Vox’s work weren’t even aware of him as a public figure. Not everyone is obsessed with politics.

emma
emma
10 years ago

Wow. How is this individual’s existence even possible? Was he raised by monsters in some dark dungeon, subjected to daily torture and dehumanization? (With pre-emptive apologies to people raised in dungeons.) What creates a mind so warped?

Reading his words, as well as those of any and all MRA / PUA / and their misogynist ilk, can seriously undermine a person’s faith in humanity. I remember the time, not that long ago, when I was unaware of MRA’s ideology and existence. I miss that time.

I’m afraid my outlook on life, pretty realistic to begin with, will never be the same. Being even casually and accidentally acquainted with the MRA’s vileness leaves a permanent stain on one’s soul. It feels like a touch of evil, not to be too bombastically metaphorical.

samantha
10 years ago
Reply to  cendare

You can be a supporting member for $40, which I realize is still out of the realm for many pepole, but just FYI. http://www.loncon3.org/memberships/ Personally I’m waiting until the voter packet comes out. This year it should have all the books from the World of Time series.

(Rummaging through my purse…looking under the cushions…) Hah! I may just be able to do it! Thanks ever so for the info! Woo!

ivyshoots
10 years ago

But the patriarchy is not a thing. This white cis het d00d just wrote the best sf yo

Buzzgums
Buzzgums
10 years ago

Well, who knows how much of an impact Vox’s exhortations had. It’s not against the rules, since apparently he did it publicly and wasn’t disqualified.

I don’t think Vox is really an MRA… I’ve only heard of him tangentially. I’d guess it’s less support for him and more hostility toward the feminists that dominate the Hugos.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
10 years ago

Vox has some popularity with fans of Christian-themed fantasy since one of his novels was nominated for a best Christian fantasy award one year at a site called Speculative Faith. Some reader there denounced Vox and urged the other readers to not support such an awful misogynist but no one seemed to pay attention.

emma
emma
10 years ago

“I don’t think Vox is really an MRA…”

If it walks like an MRA and it quacks like an MRA, it ain’t a Mother Teresa.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Ah, I see that in honor of the sci-fi related theme of this post we’ve been joined by a guest from another planet, or possibly an alternate dimension.

kittehserf
10 years ago

I’m starting to think forty-odd bucks (damn you, Oz dollar, stop sliding already!) might be a worthwhile investment.

mildlymagnificent
10 years ago

I don’t think Vox is really an MRA… I’ve only heard of him tangentially.

No need. You could just have read David’s post.

You could even click on some of those handy links.

If you can’t make a judgment on the basis of what’s quoted at the top of this page, there is something very, very wrong with you.

Protip: Go back and read that quote from what he said about Malala Yousafzai and the Taliban. Give your brain a chance to absorb and process it. Reconsider.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Possible Poe? If not the name is a bit of a Freudian slip.

Buzzgums
Buzzgums
10 years ago

There’s definitely been a coterie of feminists who have dominated the Hugos in recent years, so yeah, I think it’s fair to say that this could be seen as a response to that.

Also, Google tells me that it was probably not Vox who got his stuff on the ballot, but Larry Correia, who I have heard of as a pretty successful author:

http://monsterhunternation.com/2014/03/25/my-hugo-slate/

This makes more sense. I don’t think Vox is that prominent.

moldybrehd
10 years ago

Strangely enough, I had to thank this kerfuffle (refusing to give it the title of scandal) for actually bringing to my attention the best novel Hugo nominees and now I’m putting a whack of holds out on library books.

But this amused me.

Indeed, Futrelle, if enough people enjoy a work, that work is nominated. This is how awards work.

Actually, it’s more accurate to say that this is how this type of award works. It’s a popularity contest type of award process. And at no point are nominators required to express why they’re voting for a particular work. Some might nominate a work because they love it; others because they hate every other nominated work in that category.

Vox Day apparently wrote a story that moved people, this is true regardless of who he is as a person.

Apparently he has at least the 2 dozen voting fans that are necessary to get on the ballot; the rest is conjecture. Again, we don’t even know if the people who nominated him even read his story! (Geez, if I’d known it took so little, I have a couple of friends who finished nanowrimo this year (and published) that I should have nominated!)

It’s possible that many of those who enjoyed Vox’s work weren’t even aware of him as a public figure. Not everyone is obsessed with politics.

I’m trying to figure out how someone would find his books without going out of their way to look for them (He’s not a household name, not even as a misogynist). The books & stories are not exactly common.

But I loved the word choices in your comment, so points to you! Vox Day got ‘people enjoy’, ‘moved people’, and another ‘enjoyed Vox’s work’. All very positive words suggesting that his writing causes happy feels in his readers; and that these feels are the *only* possible reason people would vote for him. Now compare this with Dave’s supposed ‘obsessed with politics’. Ooooh, sting! Clearly, we can see who the protagonist and antagonist are in this little story. Looking forward to the next installment!

dustydeste
dustydeste
10 years ago

Hmm, I move to refer to our alien visitor as Buttgums henceforth.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Oh good. Someone worse than Orson Scott Card!

although genetic science presently suggests that we are not equally homo sapiens sapiens

Um, citation needed? I’m no expert in genetics but do have an amateur interest in the topic and have read a few books on the subject. Never have I seen any indication that genetic science has found that white people are genetically superior. That is some utter bullshit. Is Vox Day from the Americas? Because if he is, it’s quite likely he has some African genes or some indigenous American (via Asia) genes.

I’m rather pale white and we got our mitochondrial DNA tested, we found that my maternal ancestry is Native American. That’s not so unusual.

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