Let’s take another visit to the CreepyPM subreddit, where innocent souls post screenshots of the perfectly horrendous private messages they’ve gotten, sometimes on dating sites, sometimes not.
In this case, the recipient is a young black woman on OkCupid, the sender a white man more than twenty years her senior and 13 years out of her specified age range. He decides that the best way to overcome this age gap is to … mansplain and whitesplain to her about the history of Planned Parenthood.
And then there is perhaps the most awkward segue in the history of internet dating.
In the screenshot below, he’s red, she’s blue.
Directed by M. Night Shyamalan!
According to the recipient — no screenshot, alas — he followed this up with a classic bit of passive-aggressive sex nagging:
Take a chance, Ms. Free Love.
SPOILER ALERT: She didn’t.
You can read the original thread in CreepyPMs here.
Even without the mansplaining garbage, I’d reject a man who a) talked about oral sex to a stranger and b) used the term pussy.
The first bit is pretty common in Fundamentalist circles. From what I’ve heard, the Approved Reading Material presents a lot of arguments like this, but it doesn’t make it clear that these are apologetics for internal use among the faithful, not something that should be used to convince outsiders. The Planned Parenthood one is basically: “If you start to feel guilty about violating other people’s basic human rights, then read this apologetic to yourself until you’ve once again become convinced that you’re a defender of human rights.”
This is especially bad in Approved Fiction, because they’ll throw in a strawman non-believer character who gets convinced by the arguments or at least is unable to refute them. If you want to see this in action, the movie “God’s Not Dead” is still in theaters for a little while longer…
Now that I think about it, the PUA culture also relies on apologetics built around strawman dialogs. So it’s not surprising that a person who falls into one trap would also fall into the other.
$10 says he thinks men, white people, and/or Christians are discriminated against.
@Chaos-Engineer, is the “Sanger was a racist” trope only meant for in-group use? I thought it was meant to either win liberals over by using our own tactics against us (“the race card”, in this case), or to label us racists and hypocrites if we don’t fall for it.
Looks like Mr. “Margaret Sanger was a racist” really needs to get his reading on:
In other words, she was for letting all women decide for themselves, including black women. Hardly a racial genocide supporter, in other words!
PS: Does this dude really think “free love” means “willing to do it with anyone”? What an idiot.
Not only that, but “doesn’t charge for it”.
Seriously, I mentioned this in the thread, but the creepy person’s claims is ALSO bad history. Pissed me off so much I make a two post rant saying ‘DUDE YOU ARE WRONG SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU ARE DUMB’.
Well, no, I made a two post rant correcting the user, giving a biography of Sanger, and explaining the context. BUT STILL
I’m getting a nice little history lesson today! Thanks Boobzers!
If anyone’s curious, here’s the two-part ranter.
Honestly, WTF is wrong with these people. What on Earth makes them think women want to hear that stuff? Who’s is raising these guys? Whyyyyyy?
I wonder when “Step 1: Introduce an inflammatory, highly divisive political subject; Step 2: Ignore target’s opinion and repeatedly state your own; Step 3: Graphically state one’s desire for sexytimes” is going to become an officially sanctioned strategy on a PUA website.
It alraedy is. It’s the core of several “schools” of PUA.
I love the idea that putting a medical provider, with a significant mission to provide treatment to those who can’t afford to go to a non-subsidised provider setting up shop in poorer neighborhoods is used as evidence of fell intent.
In other news… The wedding proceeds apace (though it’s swallowing lots of my free mental energy, and I’m not doing the heavy lifting). Work is work, other things are what they are (Passover is taking place, Easter is coming, and all that jazz).
So my absence has not been a lack of felicity, but an excess of other divertisments.
Thanks for the history lesson, Alice! It was awesome!
Glad to hear it’s all proceeding apace, Pecunium. Have you heard from Argenti? Katz mentioned zie’s involved in a project, and zie certainly hasn’t been on site. (Naughty Argenti, what happened to “I won’t just disappear,” eh? 😉 )
Eww. Just eww.
I hate the smell of creep in the morning. Or any time during the day, to be honest.
There’re so many creeps online, I’ve met my fair share (trust me). I sometimes realise how weird in fact it is; these people are the same people I see on the streets and whom I probably talk to! Like with extremely hateful and violent YT comments, or indeed these bizarre messages. They don’t exactly dress like this:
http://www.bostoncostume.com/images/products/6777.jpg
But like this:
http://www.davidafarrellat-large.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/0231.jpg
@weirdwoodtreehugger: I actually find that view disturbing. Who’d come up with such a thing? In this context? Just… bizarre.
@Kootiepatra I read this while humming “Dick in a box” to myself. My head is in such a weird space.
Nice to see people fighting against the Sanger genocide stuff. It’s sad how relevant her words are even to this day.
moldybrhed – No problems! It was just asking to be debunked.
Can’t read it. there is a weight-loss ad blocking the lower half of the image.
Yep, he’s a creeper. Ewwwww
WWTH, I assume you’re right. According to Guttmacher, 42% of women who obtaining abortions are below the U.S. federal poverty line. 3/4 say they can’t afford a child, 3/4 cite concern for or responsibility to other individuals, 3/4 say a baby would interfere w/work, school or the ability to care for dependents.
Yet most ‘pro-life’ folks want to dismantle what little social safety net we have
In the long list of first lines than which you should read no further “I am curious…” may be #1.
The whole “abortion is genocide against black people” argument always strikes me as so insulting to black women. I mean, even if you buy into it, it’s basically saying that they’re too stupid to realize they’re exterminating their own race. It’s making black women into agents of genocide, since they’re choosing to have abortions. Even if you believe they’re just doing what they’re told (because we all know in that worldview, Planned Parenthood is out there actively convincing people to have abortions), it at the very least makes them collaborators. That’s…not a good opinion of black women (and black men that support them).
And I’m pretty sure the stuff about Margaret Sanger being a racist isn’t just intended for internal use. I talk to a lot of pro-life Christians and read pro-life materials intended for outside consumption, and it is definitely an argument intended to convince other people that PP is an evil organization. Of course, everyone else has addressed why that argument is stupid already, but that doesn’t mean that pro-lifers don’t think it’s a good “gotcha!” point.
Don’t you think it’s a bit insidious?
“Planned Parenthood was started in order to exterminate all black people.” — “I don’t care, that’s not relevant to Planned Parenthood today.”
And if this misinformation is not challenged the pro-lifers have scored another point. Propaganda techniques do work after all, one of the reasons the extreme right is so exhausting to deal with is because they always make sure they’re wrong about at least two things, so that you can never fully correct them without having to write at length.
It reminds me of the “did you know that the KKK was founded by Democrats? And Lincoln was a Republican!” shtik that RWNJs use on African-Americans. Yeah, and Ernst Rohm was the head of the SA – doesn’t mean fascists are pro-gay, or gays are fascists.
@Robert: Actually, one of the go-to talking points among the slightly fringier homophobes is that the Nazis were a pro-gay organization and that fascism is an inherent part of the “homosexual agenda.”