In case anyone was wondering, the Men Going Their Own Way movement has managed to survive the implosion of MGTOWforums.com that I wrote about a little while ago. Yep, the regulars from there have moved on to several new forums where they continue to celebrate their independence from the women of the world by happily discussing such manly hobbies as video games, model trains, taxidermy and knitting.
Oh, who am I kidding? They don’t talk about any of that stuff. Basically they continue to nurse their grudges against the women who wouldn’t date them in high school, somehow convincing themselves that the best way to be “free” of women is to obsess about them every minute of every day.
Take the charming fella who calls himself ManWithAPlan, who has managed to win himself nearly 1900 “likes” from his comrades on the MGTOW HQ message boards with comments like the following:
I hate [women] because most of them acted like stuck up cunts when they were young and hot. Then they hit 30+ and decide to settle down, and when there are no men to settle down, they start shaming men. This is where most of my hate/negativity comes from, the fact that these women feel entitled to “good” men after having spent the last 15-20 years telling guys “just because you bought me a drink/dinner doesn’t mean I owe you sex”.
And every woman acts this way. Oh you want to slut it up? Sure go ahead and be a cum rag, but I would never date a cum rag. And how would they react to that? “Oh well that’s your preference and you’re entitled to it”. Yeah right, they’d flip their shit and go into shaming language ahoy.
The reason I derive so much pleasure from this is because for the first time in their lives women are being held accountable for their actions. And they don’t fucking like it. Remember when some girl/woman got you in trouble for just crying while you weren’t in the wrong? This is fucking payback.
(Emphasis mine.)
This may sound a little harsh, but you need to remember that for most young women, life is just an endless VIP party:
Women are born with their so called value. By 15 or whatever they have the looks and power to attract most men. By 18, depending on how attractive they are, they’re either dating 30 year old millionaires or (if less attractive) fucking the football team. And they retain this value until at some point into their 30’s, sometimes 40’s. Men get nothing. We are born invisible. We have to claw, work and suffer for 2-3 decades before we get any recognition. And by that point, we no longer have the energy or fast metabolism we had in our youth. So that means double time for us.
Women are handed the world on a silver platter, men have to fight for it.
Is the MGTOW movement the least successful “independence” movement ever? They’re like someone who breaks up with you, angrily marches out the front door, slams it behind them — and then spends the next five years on your front porch peering in the window.
I would be interested in seeing the studies and it is obvious from some of the statements made by MRAs that they are indeed oblivious to the existence of any woman to whom they are not attracted. However, can we please be careful not to extend that to make sweeping generalisations based on gender? Because that would be prejudiced and wrong.
I find it so comical how women and their mangina friends are so threatened by MGTOW. Why so threatened? Are you afraid more men will discover that women just aren’t worth it? Afraid that society will stop putting pussy on a pedestal? That would be so terrible! Who would foot the bill for your granite countertops for the kitchen you don’t even cook in?
Canadian MGTOW, why do you refer to men who don’t support your ideas about what a man is a ‘mangina’? I assume it’s designed to insult them yes? What’s insulting about having a vagina?
You’d better reset that counter on your blog, honey. I know you’re proud of your nearly three weeks of going-your-own-way-ness, but posting on a feminist blog is not going your own way.
Not-really-going-your-own-way dude – what part of “we wish you misogynists WOULD go your own way” don’t you understand? If you’d piss off you’d make everyone happier, especially women.
If MGTOWs would actually go their own ways, I wouldn’t have a problem with them.
You want to live in the woods, or a bunker? Go for it.
You want to fix everything with duct tape? You win at life, person.
You want to dance like there’s no one watching? Awesome.
You want to be a dwarf bard (or an ugly elf) online, just to flout stereotypes? Swwweeet.
You want to be crude and snark on a web page that disagrees with you? Not win.
Not going your own way.
Granite countertops in the kitchen? That’s an oddly specific thing to complain about.
I wonder why Canadian MGTOW feels the need to complain about buying granite countertops on a feminist blog?
Possible new addition to the gift basket?
What a great idea, katz!
Maybe a woman in labour threw a granite countertop at Canadian Whiner. You know how dangerous life is for teh menz.
I wonder how long a granite countertop would last if you dropped it into the sun.
Love that – especially the “This brings us around to a key question: Who the hell has tungsten countertops?” bit. 😀
I wonder if granite countertops have a special misandric power that protects them from the extremes – at one end, the burning kaboom power of the sun, at the other, the soggy used-loo-paper whining of MGTOW?
I think I read somewhere that granite counters absorb masculine energy and turn nearby men into manginas. It’s tragic really. If you light a scented candle and place it on a granite counter top, a woman is compelled to cut her hair short and gain 50 lbs and age.
It sounds like this guy doesn’t like being taken for granite.
*ducks*
So what happens when kitties get onto granite counters? Do they absorb all that masculine energy? I could well believe it; we know how misandric kitties are.
::throws wad of soggy tissues at katz::
HA! My granite countertop blocks your soggy tissues!
But the, ah, power of MGTOW sogginess sogs up the power of the granite counter …
… I think
I find it kind of cute how MGTOWs are so convinced they’re these untamed rebels who are shattering women’s sheltered world. They’re like 5 year olds who threaten to go home when the other kids won’t let them have their way all the time, and are sure everyone will beg them to stay. The constant misogynistic slurs are less adorable of course, but I guess the MGTOWs have no choice. On some level the must realize that if they didn’t act like assailed no one would pay any attention to them at all.
That should be “act like assholes”
It never occurred to me until now that I need granite countertops. I guess I really must need them a lot. Hey, MGTOW, come back here.
(But really don’t)
But he’s such a Gneiss Guy!
(/s) ((also runs and hides))
I kind of want him to come back just because I’d like an explanation for the granite countertop thing.
Canadian MGTOW,
If you won’t go the fuck away how will we ever miss you?
You know why I didn’t cook this morning? Because a man had my coffee ready and was making a big delicious breakfast for me when I woke up. (I hope that eats your cookies. I really do.) He didn’t even need a granite counter top to do it. Tonight he’s making a big Sunday dinner for the whole family. I could do it. I’m a good cook. See, some men like to cook. Some people like to cook. Some don’t. Your suggestion that there is something wrong with a woman who doesn’t cook is such gender essential bullshit. Just like women can put in a counter top, men can cook. Try to let that sink into the pudding between your ears.
It’s hilarious that you pretend that my vagina is something that is revered, then in the next instance you use it as an insult. Most men don’t have a vagina, but those who do are “real men”. If your comment here is any indicator of your usual thought process then the best thing you can do for me and for society as a whole is to go far away and keep to yourself. You’re self pity and bigoted hatred is not needed anywhere.
I groaned, but I also laughed.
Even if it weren’t for all of the cool folks here, I’d still love this place just for the puns. <3
Only threatened by the ones that violate our boundaries and make us feel unsafe. The rest of your kind is just pathetic and shamelessly bigoted – not too much of a threat.
The more men stop pursuing us as sex objects, the better. Unfortunately, you MGTOWs just don’t want to actually go your own way. I’m assuming the reason for your hypocrisy is that you, like all MGTOWs, are afraid of losing the opportunity to be around us because it is by owning us through sex (or rape, if you indeed are that guy) that you get to validate your identity as a man. Sex is synonymous with ownership to you, and you don’t want to feel like your desire to own others is wrong because that would compromise the masculinity that is so dear to you.
Maybe you’ll think I’m being facetious because I’m a trans woman, and obviously no straight man would ever be sexually interested in our kind. You’re going to have a hard time justifying that view, however, given the unceasing straight male demand for “tr*nny” and “shem*le” porn that depicts us as exotic sex objects who deserve to be treated like trash and the fact that most people who rape and murder us are straight men.
Nope. In fact, I very much welcome the day we are no longer considered sex objects and accused of being privileged for our status as sex objects. Being reduced to external genitalia never was and never will be tantamount to being placed on a pedestal.
I prefer marble countertops myself. Does that make me more or less anti-male? If it means I’m more anti-male than other women, then I’m an especially mean misandrist. I not only hate myself (clearly I’m a trans woman only because I “failed” as a man), but I hate all men as well due to my love for marble countertops. :: hiss ::
What an oddly specific complaint. I’m guessing that angry dude’s ex had granite countertops, then?
PS – You’re not supposed to cut things directly on a granite surface, it can leave marks and damage the pretty finish. That’s what cutting boards are for. Guess your ex was smarter than you are, huh?
BTW, ime what happens when kitties get on a granite countertop is that they are displeased with how cold it feels against their paws and therefore they quickly jump down while meowing irritably.
Next thing you know he’ll start explaining why he thinks it’s reasonable to cook crepes on a gas stove without a pan.
Gas stoves are misandry because men dominate the oil and gas extraction industries because women hate jobs that pay well, and dude is too dumb to have ever asked himself a question like “when I flip the light switch where does the electricity come from?”.
I think you’re mistaken. Everyone knows we get our electricity from cats. There are factories in which big fluffy cats roll around back and forth, generating static electricity enough to power the entire world.
Yeah, but who has to wrangle all those cats? Men, that’s who!
And they get some pretty nasty scratches on their arms, too. Makes being with your wife during labor look like a cakewalk.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8
Cats are misandry because you’d think they’d have the decency to only scratch women, but do they? No, they do not.
Threatened? More like amused by your hypocrisy, and mildly annoyed that you never seem to shut the fuck up.
Next time I give birth, I’m bringing cats into the delivery room with me. They can do all the dirty work of scratching up the menz while I bon-bon my way through labor.
My sediments exactly. That was clastic.
Lawls, we’re not threatened, we wish you would go already. Believe me, dudes like you won’t be missed.
How does it feel to be such an impotent rage monster, so much so that the only way you can get women’s attention is to type angry little screeds on a blog? It’s really saying more about you than us, duder.
I am all for putting the pussies on a pedestal:
http://i.imgur.com/MsZ1eJR.jpg
My pet sitter came over today to pick up the keys (I’m visiting my parents next weekend) and she was very surprised by how tall Pan is. He was only half-grown last time she saw him.
Lookit the kitty worship pedestals!
Mads has a post like that. Unfortunately her usual pose on it reads as “kiss my arse”.
One of my parents’ cats likes to play-fight with people when she’s up on cat trees. This causes some problems with me, because she takes a swat at whatever is closest to her (not with claws out, but still…) and usually what is closest to her of me is my boobs!
Their other cat has trouble getting down from the top perch. He climbs onto it from the loft over the bookshelves, but then getting down…
(They have a really big cat tree, probably six and a half feet high.)
wordsp1nner – ouch!
Enjoy the meal, blockquote monster.
Oh noes, the Blockquote Monster ate Anarchonist! 😯
MGTOWs are more than welcome to GTOW. I’m not sure how removing such a bunch of whiny, self-absorbed guys from the dating pool really threatens anyone.
Get the fuck out of my country. You won’t be missed!
::waves excitedly::
Hi, Captain Bathrobe!
Really, if you have to keep telling people how much they’re going to miss you when you go your own way, you are neither: A. Going your own way or B. Going to be missed much when (and if) you do go.
Which is kind of sad, but if these MGTOWs actually went their own way and developed hobbies and interests other than castigating women and whining, they might actually develop some kind of well-rounded personality that other people might actually find appealing. They might form friendships based on common interests and goals rather than hatred/disgust of women. And then somebody might actually miss them when they’re gone without having to be told about it.
@Canadian MGTOW
I’m sure that you’d like nothing more than women feeling threatened by Men Going Their Own Way. That’s the response you want. Unfortunately it’s not the response you actually get.
Be honest, none of you really want to go your own way, do you? Let’s face it, if that were true you would have by now…well GONE. The truth is that you want women to stop you. But no women are stopping you. If you want to know why, then have a look at some of the horrible things MGTOW say about women. There’s your answer, right there.
To be honest, I do have a bit of a morbid fascination with MGTOWs in the same way that some people rubberneck at the scene of a car crash. I find it amazing at how little MGTOWs know about actual women. Well, not that amazing, all things considered. It is so obvious that all your ‘knowledge’ about what women want (shoes and handbags and alpha males, apparently) comes from a pooling of MGTOWs imagination. It becomes more and more warped the more you all feed off each other to the point where ‘women’ become unrecognisible. You should all get out more.