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![ILoveHate 18 points 21 hours ago (25|7) Why is it that I always see the hambeasts worried about rape and not the cute girls on the volleyball team? permalink save source report give gold save reply hide child comments [–]Bartab 21 points 17 hours ago (27|9) Because the cute ones turn guys down all the time and nothing happens. Fatties never turn them down, so they have this huge fantasy that if they did it would end in violence.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2guys2.png?ssl=1)
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Why wouldn’t you assume good faith? Also I don’t know what P0C means.
poc – people of color.
Alex, it sounds like you need to do some 101 level reading on social justice issues.
@ Alex
Have you checked out some of the other blogs linked on the right side bar too? Some of them are great for learning about social justice issues in general. I especially like Feministing because they do a great job of being intersectional (they cover way more than JUST feminism). I also love Captain Awkward. She’s brilliant.
@Alex
A defining characteristic of privilege is that privileged people are less likely to be aware of how privileged they are. For instance, white privilege can manifest itself in the form of white people being unaware of the fact that they are treated as normal and fully human. Because of this tendency, many white people act in ways that are oppressive without even knowing it. And it can be difficult to tell whether a white person is making an honest mistake or just deliberately being oppressive, hence the lack of POC assuming good faith from white people. It’s not about demonizing all white people; it’s about being wary.
Also, POC stands for people of color, the term used for people who are oppressed by white supremacy.
Have you seen some of the horrible people who troll this place?
1.) because we don’t know you, 2.) what you’ve said so far, and 3.) what grumpycatisagirl said.
Alex – I already told you above, this is a troll-heavy site, though less now than it used to be. We’ve had men – the same sorts who say rape culture doesn’t exist and is offensive to men because it says you’re all rapists – telling us we should be raped. We’ve had men saying women are nothing but fucktoys with a pulse, that women are inherently stupid, deceitful, barely human creatures who have no right to self-determination at all. The articles David quotes are full of this shit. Click on some of the categories in the sidebar like “violence” and “men who should not ever be with women” or “reactionary bullshit” and see what comes up.
If you come into a place and people are nice, then you say something and get called on it, doesn’t it occur to you to find out what you did to cause offence, rather than get all wounded?
If a hetero person, little known to the regular on an LGBT site, declared that it’s offensive to hetero people to say there’s a culture of prejudice against LGBT people, would you expect the regulars to be nice to them and take them on good faith?
Ok, I’m calling troll on @Alex. He comes in with an inflamatory comment about rape culture with a side order of slur, he gets all indignant when called on this, telling us all what meanie meanpants we are and now he’s claiming not to know what PoC stands for. Pull the other one, it hath bells on it.
It’s not still April Fools in his time zone, is it?
Alex was also Mr. “What do you think about gay men?” IIRC.
Alex, it sounds like you need to do some catching up about social justice in general. Maybe if you lurked for a while and read the comment threads, you might get a better sense of how we roll around here.
Yes, he was, katz.
I’ve not got the patience to spoon feed people who are too lazy to google, tonight.
Yup, that’s him.
I’m really not loving the whole “why are you being so mean?” after ripping off slurs and dismissing rape culture as some plot to make him feel bad. I don’t know, something just does not pass the smell test.
At this point I’m going to say I don’t care if he’s trolling or just clueless, either way I’m not interested in further conversation.
Wow, get paranoid and hostile at people you don’t know much? You’re the ones saying I’m plotting to make you feel bad now after apologizing several times. I guess I’m probably lying about being gay too, because that’s clearly something people do all the time :I
Alex, no one here is accusing you of being gay. They are only suspicious of you because you are behaving like many past Man Boobz trolls. It’s been spelled out for you several times in this thread.
Fixing that first sentence:
“Alex, no one here is accusing you of lying about your orientation.”
Nobody has to accuse me of being gay because I am gay. What I am not is a troll. I said things that hurt peoples’ feelings. I didn’t mean to say anything that would hurt anyone’s feelings. I am sorry.
You’re the ones saying I’m plotting to make you feel bad now after apologizing several times.
Now that’s just stupid. It’s been explained to you several times
1) What rape culture is
2) Why we’re reacting as we are to a stranger coming in and saying the same things MRAs do.
You’ve also missed that your apology was accepted by people in the original conversation.
Going on complaining and carrying on about how people are being mean to you isn’t really helping, you know.
This is actually a very welcoming place. Plenty of long-time members here have stumbled at first, or later for that matter, been called out, said “Sorry, won’t do it again!” and been fine.
I’m not sure why this seems to be hard for you to comprehend.
Nobody’s questioning your orientation. Ally made a typo and corrected herself. We don’t even do that to trolls, though we’ve had a good few dudes pretending to be women over the years.
Huh?
Can we have a show of hands in favor of just ignoring mr. dramatic non-sequitur?
::flaps hand::
I think I’ve used up all my Patient Wall o’ Text™ on this one.
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Love the Hermione’s Cat one! 😀
RE: Alex
As a gay man I have to deal with ignorance everywhere, and I don’t really appreciate just being told I am not worth explaining something to. It’s depressing to be told things like that.
I am a gay man who was raped by a straight man. He got away with it because… you guessed it! Rape culture. Your ignorance hurts me too. Your gayness is not a get-out-of-jail free card. Your gayness is completely irrelevant to this conversation.
I have mental issues including depression and problems with focus and my understanding of certain issues is hindered, so it helps me to have examples and concise sentences.
Oh hey, I have mental issues too! You’re still acting like a jerk. If you were worried about misunderstanding, it would’ve been better for you to mention right away. Again, it feels like you’re hiding behind your label to avoid accepting you screwed up.
People here don’t seem to like me much.
I CAN’T IMAGINE WHY. You’re irritating me, and I’m supposed to be the same category as you!
Why wouldn’t you assume good faith?
Because this is a site that gets trolled regularly. Also, I really don’t care for how you duck behind your labels the moment someone calls you out, and calls us mean. You’re being a weasel, and I don’t care for it.
I guess I’m probably lying about being gay too, because that’s clearly something people do all the time :I
See? You’re doing it again. We call you out for doing shitty things, you get upset and say we’re being mean. Why should I engage with you in good faith when you’re busy clutching pearls?
I didn’t mean to say anything that would hurt anyone’s feelings. I am sorry.
Then STOP DOING IT. Stop clutching your pearls, sit down, shut up, and learn a bit.
I get the sense that you are very young, Alex. But you’re failing basic social interactions here. The requisite parts of an apology are: say you’re sorry, show an awareness of what you’ve done, and then change your behavior. You are failing the last two parts of that, and that’s why everyone’s getting pissy at you. Including me.