Today, just a recommendation: if you’d like to learn more about the wrongheaded and often quite bewildering opinions of Men’s Rights grandpappy Warren Farrell, take a look at the excellent Farrell’s Follies series now being posted on the AgainstMensRights subreddit. The Redditor known as feminista_throwaway has been systematically going through Farrell’s Myth of Male Power and looking in detail at Farrell’s positions on such issues as “Date Fraud,” why it’s supposedly easier to be a gay man than a straight man, why patriarchy is women’s fault, and how men and women don’t really love each other. There’s a guide to the whole series here.
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Oh wow. Just looked at the ‘men and women don’t love each other’ one. What a chucklefuck Farrell is. Protip, dude: just because YOU are an unloveable and loveless creep doesn’t give you the right to project that onto other people.
I had the same thought Kitteh.
Aw, Warren has realized that nobody loves him and it’s very likely that nobody ever will? That’s what you get for being a creepy, selfish. petulant asshole, I guess.
I’m confused about what token resistance is. Is it when you say no but you want to say yes and eventually do? Or is it when you say no even though you desire the other person but for some reason choose no (like wanting to wait for a commitment or having to get up early the next day and not wanting to be tired)?
Obviously it’s wrong to push someone who has said no either way. I was just curious. I also really hate the date fraud. It implies that sex is payment for buying dinner or a movie ticket or whatever and if you say no you’re cheating your date out of something they’re entitled to. Ick.
Or even just, you agreed to a date and then decided that you didn’t want another one because it didn’t go that well. How dare you! I can see Farrell being unable to grasp the idea that people change their minds based on new/more information, or viewing that as fraud.
Oh, this is lovely:
Women need men to protect them from other men. But no whining when the protector turns into the one you need protection from. Men are empowered to rape by women. Except male power is a myth.
That’s an awful lot of mental gymnastics he’s going through in order to blame women for rape.
Farrell lets his nasty little id out in that explicit one about “far enough for now,” doesn’t he? It’d be nice to think he’s just clueless about how people can make out without any intention of having sex, but that’s giving him too much benefit of the doubt. He’s all too obviously one of the specimens who knows perfectly well what a soft no is, or that someone can be indecisive, or pressured, but doesn’t like the answer and wants to make sure he fucks her regardless.
I find it hard to believe that a man who puts this sort of shit into print hasn’t actually raped someone at some time.
Oh good lord, the gay one.
A homosexual experience might mean two hours of sexual pleasure. The consequences? – two hours of sexual pleasure.
Yes. AIDS NEVER HAPPENED. Neither does gaybashing! We live in a happy gay sex utopia!
On second thought, perhaps Warren Farrell ought to join the g0ys. I’m sure they’d adore each other.
Hey now, the goys may be ridiculous but I’m not sure they deserve Farrell.
I was thinking about the most recent Will Farrell post the other day, and I came to the realization that when he’s complaining that women have all the power because butts, he’s really just admitting that he, personally, would do anything for the mere chance at getting laid. Aside from the fact that the manosphere should be turning on him after this huge, public admission of betaness, it really just shows what a sad, pathetic loser he is (and thinks all men are).
These links are just confirming my thesis. What a sad little man.
Men and women don’t really love eachother?
This one is going to really surprise Hubby.
…and I only just broke it to him that we aren’t really married with kids, cuz uh’ teh homosexicals.
JK…We’re going to tell this silly shit to some of our married friends tonight, though. Thanks for the Lulz, assholes.
Farrell is a creepy asshole. I can’t imagine how the MRAs haven’t noticed how misogynist and how misandrist he is, with his assumptions that women owe men sex and that men are controlled by the power of a woman’s ass.
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Hey now, the goys may be ridiculous but I’m not sure they deserve Farrell.
Oh, they deserve him, all right. The g0ys hate any guy who isn’t the paragon of closeted cis masculinity, and their “leader” likes to run scams, squeeze money from his followers, and never actually risk being outed, meaning he never actually does any activism of note. They and Farrell are like brothers.
Now, the Cockrub Warriors, THEY don’t deserve Farrell.
Men and women don’t really love eachother?
This one is going to really surprise Hubby.
Yup. I just asked Mr K if he wanted to hear something funny, and gave him the potted version.
His expression was somewhere between “blank” and “trying to twist up in puzzlement”.
Now he’s just said “I do not understand these things.”
Poop, forgot to blockquote leatapp’s comment. First two lines in my comment above are hers.
kittehs – Well yeah, according to some modmail I got yesterday, we’re all ugly, bitter lesbians who can’t ever find happiness. Why else can men and women not love one another? /s
Thanks for the AMR love David! Feminista has done an amazing job unpacking Farrell’s bullshit.
I’m trans. Does that mean my husband loves me or not? 🙁
Hey, Alice! :: waves ::
Has anyone posted about this Canadian feminist who was assaulted?
AVfMers (John Hembling, typhonblue, GWW, Attila Vinczer) and Misters (/u/edtastic) are all over the comments, arguing that (a) she’s obviously lying and (b) she probably brought it on herself since she’s a feminist.
Hey cloudiah! And hi HokesOne!
Hii! How’s being a lesbian who will never be pretty or happy?
Since finding out that I’m all of those things in that same mod mail, things have been pretty wild. I could have sworn that I wasn’t any of those things… but you know… It is what it is.
Cloudiah, we have a thread on AMR about it but I haven’t seen much press or even blog write ups about it yet.
HokesOne – Pretty liberating, actually. I thought I was an asexual Asian female (and cute according to people who’ve seen my pictures), but apparently I’m an ugly bitter lesbian. Who knew? Whee, freedom!
After I cried a bit finding out, I’ve come to accept my new reality. How’s you, fellow bitter ugly lesbian who will never find happiness?
Another story identifies the student who was assaulted by name, hopefully with her permission, and immediately MRAs are pooping in the comments there too. Sigh.
Wait, wait, I thought we were all our gravatars? D’you mean you’re not a white kitty with a hand-crafted custom halo? And I’m not a nekkid French king?
OH NOES I CANNOT COPE