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Women’s Libbers, In Love

Those libbers are up to something.
Those libbers are up to something.

Well, I’m still sick, and at the moment my cough is more productive than I am, so instead of a full post let’s take another trip down memory lane with this important document from the early years of second wave feminism. In this 1972 pamphlet, the radical feminist collective known as the “Marvel Comics Group” spelled out their five-point program for feminist revolution.

As you can see, it consisted of:

  1. Smooching
  2. Accessorizing your protest ensemble with a kicky scarf
  3. Late-night typing
  4. Making young men jealous by dating older pilots, or policemen, or mailmen. (I’m not completely sure what job that guy’s got.)
  5. Making young women jealous by dating Carl Sagan

See the awesome blog Sequential Crush for more on this comic-book guide to the romantic side of Women’s Lib.

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katz
6 years ago

Also the word “balls” seems poorly chosen. It couldn’t just be a “purity dance?”

kittehserf
6 years ago

lowquacks, hi, how ya doing? Great to see you on site again. How’s Lavvy?

katz – “purity balls” always makes me smirk. What do they do, wash ’em in disinfectant?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

I dunno, calling them “balls” seems quite appropriate given that the whole thing is really for the dads rather than the kids.

lowquacks
lowquacks
6 years ago

@Kittehs

Unfortunately, Lavvy’s kidneys failed nearly completely about a fortnight ago. He probably had a few months left in him, but he was confused and incontinent and just stayed in one cardboard box looking miserable. We had the vet visit to give him a needle so he could die with a little dignity and knowing all of his family were there and loved him.

Haven’t been around the site much – it’s entertaining as ever, by the looks of it, just got tired of reading about sexist dickheads. Not very positive, and if you didn’t keep up with the comment section fun the site could just be a little depressing to browse despite David’s best efforts to add a bit of fun to “look at this awful thing this awful person said”. Being back at uni gives me much more reason to procrastinate, though!

@CassandraSays

Ew.

titianblue
titianblue
6 years ago

@lowquacks, I’m so sorry about Lavvy. You absolutely did the kindest thing, though I know that’s little comfort when you’re grieving.

@cassandrakitty, purity balls – I just can’t express how creepy those sound.

lowquacks
lowquacks
6 years ago

@titianblue

Thanks for the wellwishes!

Flicking over to look at this from another tab, I misread “purity balls” just after the word “kitty” as being “purry balls”. Which is far nicer, don’t you think? We all love/are/diligently little fluffy purry balls here at Man Boobz, don’t we?

Karalora
Karalora
6 years ago

You know, if you ask fundie Christians about it, they’ll tell you that of course it’s important for boys to remain “pure” before marriage too, but there’s nothing remotely parallel to the “purity ball” for their sons. Anyone care to imagine what excuses they’d come up with if you challenged them on it?

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

I think the excuse is that boys are primitive beasts that have to be kept in check so the girls are the sexual gatekeepers and must remain vigilant at all times. The usual sexist (against both sexes) rape culture crap.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

They probably tell boys that girls’ vaginas are full of old tape, a vast accumulation of spit, and chewing gum, if the the ugly lessons they impart in schools have anything to say about it.

kittehserf
6 years ago

lowquacks – I’m so sorry about Lavvy. There’s nothing else to do but let them go home, quickly, when kidney failure sets in. Hugs if you want them.

Flicking over to look at this from another tab, I misread “purity balls” just after the word “kitty” as being “purry balls”. Which is far nicer, don’t you think? We all love/are/diligently little fluffy purry balls here at Man Boobz, don’t we?

Love it. 😀 “Purry balls” sounds like kitties curled up together.

OT but best muffin-top ever.

cloudiah
6 years ago

So sorry to hear about Lavvy, lowquacks. He was lucky to have you (and vice-versa, of course).

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

I wish my kitties would snuggle like that. Unfortunately, they don’t like each other. 🙁

Viscaria
Viscaria
6 years ago

Our kitties love each other. Unfortunately they hate all other animals, as boyfriend likes to remind me whenever I start sighing after a puppy.

katz
6 years ago

You know, if you ask fundie Christians about it, they’ll tell you that of course it’s important for boys to remain “pure” before marriage too, but there’s nothing remotely parallel to the “purity ball” for their sons. Anyone care to imagine what excuses they’d come up with if you challenged them on it?

Obvs the relative value of virginity is a big part of this, but I think it’s also strongly tied to the overall mythos about the role of women. Dances, pretty dresses, shiny jewelry, etc are all Stuff That Girls Like and, more generally, Stuff That Girls Like is (seen as) shallow/materialistic and/or bestowed on them by men.

So I think the idea is that there’s a ball and shit because it’s what every little girl dreams of, but there’s no need to do such a thing for the boys because boys aren’t supposed to like that stuff, and anyway boys don’t need a simulated romantic experience with the opposite sex to do something meaningful or important.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

RE: Bina

They probably tell boys that girls’ vaginas are full of old tape, a vast accumulation of spit, and chewing gum, if the the ugly lessons they impart in schools have anything to say about it.

Heh. For mine, it was a paper heart being systematically torn to shreds. (Note: at the time, it was either during my Raping Year or just after it, so I totally bought it. So THAT’S why I felt so shitty!)

RE: Kittehs

“Purry balls” sounds like kitties curled up together.

Purry balls makes me think of something. Uh. Very different. Especially since my husband tends to make his own weird purring sounds when he’s pleased.

kittehserf
6 years ago

Purry balls makes me think of something. Uh. Very different. Especially since my husband tends to make his own weird purring sounds when he’s pleased.

😯

What IS it with our husbands? Louis does that too! He actually purrs.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
6 years ago

It makes you wonder how messed up girls get, when they’re told to sever their awareness of their body, rely totally on other people’s judgment, and wait around for their fairy tale to come true. Their sexuality has to go into suspended animation for a dozen or so years. Then, on their wedding night, suddenly their libido is supposed to blossom and everything work just right. How can that not be overwhelming and frightening and, ultimately, disappointing?

I suspect a lot of girls raised with abstinence-only either end up rebelling (because once their vaginas go into the markdown bin, what do they have to lose?) or they become angry, judgmental, and terrified of anything outside their comfort zone.

kittehserf
6 years ago

Yes, and if the boys have been “pure” as well, they’re supposed to suddenly know all about what to do and how to take the lead. I doubt that means they’re supposed to be making it pleasurable for both, though … it’s too easy to imagine how unpleasant (at least) it would be, if neither of them has a clue about sexuality, arousal or anything else relevant.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
6 years ago

Too true…it would require a lot of patience, tenderness, and respect to get over that initial fear/awkwardness. It’s too bad they don’t teach those skills in sex ed class. Instead they’re too busy comparing female sexuality to used linty tape and leftover pizza. Maybe it’s not that they’re afraid to make sex sound remotely pleasurable, lest the students get any ideas – maybe they genuinely don’t know that there’s more to sex than dull pro forma coupling. (Or they know, but why should the kids have pleasures that were denied to the adults?)

BTW, that is too adorable that Louis purrs when he’s pleased. There’s something very disarming about that. 😀

katz
6 years ago

Hey, check it out: The newest viral Amazon item is the vagina toaster.

You’ll all be happy to find that several reviewers have already pointed out that it is, in fact, a vulva toaster.

kittehserf
6 years ago

It is sweet that he purrs, isn’t it! He even sported a tail, once, as an experiment, after I’d been joking about it. He won’t do it again, but it was a hoot watching him play around while he had it. He said it was very strange feeling one’s spine extended like that. I did a memorial picture of it:

http://vignettesacrosstheveil.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/the-tale-of-the-tail/

and Louis wrote about it at the end of this entry:

http://vignettesacrosstheveil.wordpress.com/2013/03/15/serious-and-silly-very-silly/

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

RE: Kittehs

I think it’s fairly common; I make a weird Marge Simpson rumble noise. He just… hums or whatever. Not quite purring, but…

kittehserf
6 years ago

Louis’s sound was like a vibration – made me think of a cello, in a way; not so much the actual sound as the depth and a sense of wood (stop it! That’s not what I’m talking about). But he must be closer to total assimilation by the Furrinati, ‘cos now it’s much more like a really truly purr.

serrana
6 years ago

Whenever I read about purity balls I wonder what the girls’ mothers think, and I imagine the conversation with her husband goes like this:

Woman: I could really use some help around here from you. We have six kids!
Man: Knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ.
Woman: No, I mean, I can’t get everything done and I’m exhausted.
Man: Okay, first you start a load of laundry, and while that’s going, you can go into the kitchen and make my breakfast, and then…
Woman: What?
Man: I’m helping you with your problem getting organized.
Woman: Sighs.
Man: Actually there’s one thing I could do. I’d like to spend more time with our oldest daughter and oversee her spiritual growth as she becomes a young woman.
Woman: Fine. Whatever.

serrana
6 years ago

Katz, my favorite review of that toaster:

Soup lovers – if you leave the bread in the toaster for 9 months it starts spitting out cute little croutons.

katz
6 years ago

That was my favorite, too.

kittehserf
6 years ago

Serrana – all too true, and the man’s last comment is uber-creepy.

opium4themasses
opium4themasses
6 years ago

Oh look more woman controlling bullshit being marketed as protection for families.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/03/21/3417400/massachusetts-judge-sex/

Felisha
Felisha
6 years ago

With fewer job opportunities and schooling, even radfems sometimes did what their mothers did and that’s seek a husband for financial stability. When the system is geared that way, then yes women are going to do what they have to so as to survive.

And there wasn’t always encouragement, either. There was sexual harassment at work, and at times to keep women out of male dominated positions. Chauvinism was worse than what it is today, even more widely encouraged. This is what MRAs don’t understand. The world those women and feminists were living in required them to be more radical and outspoken because of the system and the sexism they were constantly surrounded by. For them to think feminism wasn’t ever needed, that things weren’t as bad as they think they were, is as narrow-sighted as you can get.

There constantly complaining of “You have your freedom now. What’s your problem?!”

Just because blacks won their freedom in the 1860s America didn’t mean everything was suddenly okay for them. Condescending attitudes towards them affected their employment and schooling status, among other things, even 100 years later.

Freedom, alone, wasn’t always enough. Women wanted to be accepted and treated as people, without discrimination and scoff. And this is an aspect of society that is more difficult to fix than laws. For one can make and fix a law over a week, but it can take centuries to change the attitudes of people surrounding it. And it’s bad attitudes towards women that can do more damage than a single bad law. For if attitudes are good, they can push to change a bad law. If attitudes remain foul, than bad laws remain longer.

Again, this is something anti-fems have a difficult time grasping.

mildlymagnificent
6 years ago

Maybe it’s not that they’re afraid to make sex sound remotely pleasurable, lest the students get any ideas – maybe they genuinely don’t know that there’s more to sex than dull pro forma coupling.

I suspect a lot don’t know very much, even now. A long time ago a friend of mine went to a women’s conference and there were a couple of groups fromWomen Who Want to be Women style organisations. Everybody got on reasonably well and there was lots of casual conversation at tea breaks and so on. One group was discussing sex ed, and one of these women was dead set against it. That shouldn’t be discussed in schools she said indignantly, it’s a role for strictly within the family! One of the others laughed and said, “No way I’m ever going to talk to my kids about various sexual positions and activities. Let the professionals deal with it.”

At which point the first woman looked really confused and perplexed. “What do you mean – different positions?” Things went downhill from there.

There may be fewer people like that around nowadays, but I doubt they’ve disappeared entirely.

katz
6 years ago

At which point the first woman looked really confused and perplexed. “What do you mean – different positions?” Things went downhill from there.

By which you mean things became one middle-aged woman’s belated but joyful journey of sexual discovery, right? Right?

…That would make a good movie premise.