UPDATE: Increasingly implausible posts from Tuthmosis, the source of all the “information” about Roosh’s alleged arrest, make it pretty clear this was a hoax.
UPDATE 2: And Roosh has officially admitted it:
Tuthmosis and I conspired to prank the internet that I was in jail. The picture used is from the German DDR museum. …
I expect many of you to be annoyed, and I hope Tuth and I didn’t betray your trust with the prank, but the security and viability of the forum was never compromised and the picture was just too good not to use. Credit goes to Tuth for his “new rules” (http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33639-…#pid667804 ), which—if you were in on the joke—was quite amusing. I also did not expect the story to be as believed as it was, since there are many flaws in the picture that suggest it’s not a real jail cell, but on the other hand, the prospect of me going to jail is not unexpected. If you are pissed off, I recommend you read Tuth’s bulletins to see the humor in the prank (the “bill me later” option was my favorite).
I do sincerely appreciate the thoughts of concern of my Polish imprisonment. Now of course I really will be jailed and no one will believe it because of this false jailing accusation. In case of a real “involuntary absence” from the forum, I trust Tuth to continue moderation efforts. For many years he has selflessly helped me maintain the community we have and not actually gone mad with power.
On a positive note, we managed to troll the tub of estrogen Manboobz and his readers.
Interesting that the people who fell the hardest for his hoax were his own fans. Also, I’m not sure that me posting something that essentially said “here’s something that looks a bit fishy that’s being reported by someone who may well be lying” really counts as “being trolled.”
ORIGINAL POST:
Before I go into any details here I want to say that all of this is coming from Roosh’s forum and hasn’t been confirmed in any way. So treat it with however much skepticism you deem appropriate. For all I know this could be some bizarre publicity stunt to promote Roosh’s blog and his reprehensible Return of Kings website.
But according to Roosh’s pal “Tuthmosis,” who says he is getting his info from a friend of Roosh in Poland, Roosh has been arrested after some sort of violent “confrontation.” Here’s his description of what allegedly happened:
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Roosh had a violent “confrontation” in Poland
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He was apprehended by Polish authorities
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He’s being (or already has been) charged with some sort of crime and being held in jail
In a followup comment he offered additional details about the alleged incident:
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Confrontation was with Paul/Andre, his gypsy stalker
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Didn’t start violent, but escalated quickly
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Witnesses pointed to Roosh
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There were “serious injuries”
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Roosh is definitely being charged with something
In response to some skeptics who suggested this might all be a hoax, he wrote:
I too was hopeful this was some sort of joke–even if it meant me having egg on my face–but I just got a message from a second source. This is a guy who does back-end work for ROK and I’ve personally met, so I have no reason to doubt him.
Roosh is definitely being charged with a (serious) crime. The gypsy apparently took a nasty beating. What’s more, witnesses (who may be acquaintances of the gypsy) claim that Roosh was speaking epithets at him and may have used an object to strike him. I don’t know what the Polish laws are, but these circumstances apparently add to the severity of the crime. I got a couple of calls out to see what his legal prospects are, but the language barriers and time difference are making information hard to come by.
Naturally, Roosh’s fans being a bunch of racist assholes, the alleged ethnicity of Roosh’s alleged stalker led to some lovely generalizations about “gypsies” and this comment, from “Walter White,” who suggested that anti-“gypsy” bigotry might just get Roosh off the hook:
Scary stuff. I’ve travelled extensively in the region, and gypsies aren’t well thought of in Eastern Europe. Sounds terrible, but that’s the way it is. I guess an analogy for Americans would be like if a white dude got into a fight with a black guy in the 1940’s in the South. As wrong as it may be, the white guy would be given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Roosh will get the benefit of that with regard to a fight with a gypsy. Then again, he’s not a Pole – so he’s not gonna get much “home team” advantage.
I guess we’ll see, huh?
That is, assuming this isn’t all a publicity stunt.
Odd that Roosh appears to have emerged apparently unscathed from such an allegedly violent confrontation. His hair isn’t even mussed up.
Looks like that money-making scheme just went kerplooey in his face, doesn’t it?
There is something so very perfect about that nopology, about it’s perfect distillation of PUA fuckery. They make a lifestyle, an ideology, centered around being as big an asshole as they can to women, treating them as little more than props in their quest to amuse and distract themselves from of their obvious self-loathing. But after a while, even that gets jaded, and so they turn to treating each other in fundamentally assholish ways.
And now, feelings are hurt, and people feel really betrayed. And they should; they have good reason. They were betrayed and made fun of by people they trusted and felt some concern and affection for. And so those people are going to leave because they feel that such shoddy treatment was uncalled for and a violation of friendship and trust.
Will this cause them to have a bit more self-awareness about how they treat others (ie women)? One can only hope, but I doubt it.
This all makes me think of Discworld karma, which happens really fast.
Have I any sympathy for Roosh’s followers and their hurt feelings? No, because this is trivial compared with what they endorse doing to women. Schadenfreude, wonderful wonderful Schadenfreude …
They’re now attacking each other in the comments, so Doosh himself is trying to pour oil on these troubled waters:
OMG perfect, perfect!
LOL
What a good person Roosh has offended. I hate to see a man who defends his fellow rapists and has poor punctuation skills get a sad!
Is he kidding with this. How much time do you suppose this guy spends thinking about his male privilege, straight privilege and if applicable white privilege? Now he appropriates social justice language to defend the privilege of being able to commit hate speech? Nice.
Plenty of shit to go ’round, Doosh…yer soakin’ in it.
Yep.
Their entire way of life relies on, nay, requires, overstepping and violating people’s boundaries, objectifying and manipulating people as means to their own own amusement. That is some powerful self-delusion at work there if they are really surprised to have it turned against them. Rooshites, this is the behavior you train each other to display. It is the behavior you praise in each other. Now it’s out of bounds because it doesn’t feel all that good to be played?
The irony, it has burned down through to the earth’s core!
Oh, this is a perfect ouroboros of PUA asshole behavior. R&T are actively trying to gaslight their own people, and it’s not working.
Pass the popcorn.
Oh noes! How will rapists find their fellow rapists in order to get the benefit of their experience in pissing all over the legal system now? The sky is falling, etc.
This is mighty fine buttery popcorn, cloudiah. *munches*
Their entire way of life relies on, nay, requires, overstepping and violating people’s boundaries, objectifying and manipulating people as means to their own own amusement. That is some powerful self-delusion at work there if they are really surprised to have it turned against them. Rooshites, this is the behavior you train each other to display. It is the behavior you praise in each other. Now it’s out of bounds because it doesn’t feel all that good to be played?
This goes back to how utterly contemptible I find them; it makes me want to use phrases like “not a real man”. I know, terms like that are nonsense and worse; it’s my gut reaction when I compare them with … well, someone else. I’m left groping for ways to describe how despicable they are.
I’ll present without comment this priceless comment from somebody called Christian McQueen
Never mind. I do have a comment.
Hahahahahahahaha!
Is it just me or does roosh seem to hate himself from a racial angle? I mean, the crapping on Indians and Arabs, the coziness with white supremacists when he’s not white by their standards. The exclusive chasing after white (and some Latin Americans) women. It’s as if he’s desperate to say ‘I’m white goddammit! Persians are white! We’re white, unlike those damn Arabs and south asians! I’m Persian aka whiteeeee stop confusing me with Arabs or Indians I’m nottttttt’ :p
Poop – that first para was meant to be quoting gillyrosebee.
Ellie – oh yes, he does indeed. (Schadenfreude again.)
WWTH – isn’t it precious? Poor little creep upset that other creep Stole His Joke!
Prank jerking? HAHAHAHAHAHA.
More from a different forum thread (my fingers are all greasy from the butter!):
Wut?
I don’t think Roosh will ever get the implications of many of his behaviors. That would require self-awareness and not being a narcissist.
Poor Cr33pin seems genuinely disturbed!
And int_playb is taking his marbles and his no doubt imaginary cash and going home too:
Bitcoins!
Since when did Roosh preach morals? I thought it was the exact opposite Roosh preached.
BITCOINS ARE REAL THOUGH THEY’RE TOTALLY REAL
Not if you parked your bitcoins with Mt. Goz. Whoopsie.