UPDATE: Increasingly implausible posts from Tuthmosis, the source of all the “information” about Roosh’s alleged arrest, make it pretty clear this was a hoax.
UPDATE 2: And Roosh has officially admitted it:
Tuthmosis and I conspired to prank the internet that I was in jail. The picture used is from the German DDR museum. …
I expect many of you to be annoyed, and I hope Tuth and I didn’t betray your trust with the prank, but the security and viability of the forum was never compromised and the picture was just too good not to use. Credit goes to Tuth for his “new rules” (http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33639-…#pid667804 ), which—if you were in on the joke—was quite amusing. I also did not expect the story to be as believed as it was, since there are many flaws in the picture that suggest it’s not a real jail cell, but on the other hand, the prospect of me going to jail is not unexpected. If you are pissed off, I recommend you read Tuth’s bulletins to see the humor in the prank (the “bill me later” option was my favorite).
I do sincerely appreciate the thoughts of concern of my Polish imprisonment. Now of course I really will be jailed and no one will believe it because of this false jailing accusation. In case of a real “involuntary absence” from the forum, I trust Tuth to continue moderation efforts. For many years he has selflessly helped me maintain the community we have and not actually gone mad with power.
On a positive note, we managed to troll the tub of estrogen Manboobz and his readers.
Interesting that the people who fell the hardest for his hoax were his own fans. Also, I’m not sure that me posting something that essentially said “here’s something that looks a bit fishy that’s being reported by someone who may well be lying” really counts as “being trolled.”
ORIGINAL POST:
Before I go into any details here I want to say that all of this is coming from Roosh’s forum and hasn’t been confirmed in any way. So treat it with however much skepticism you deem appropriate. For all I know this could be some bizarre publicity stunt to promote Roosh’s blog and his reprehensible Return of Kings website.
But according to Roosh’s pal “Tuthmosis,” who says he is getting his info from a friend of Roosh in Poland, Roosh has been arrested after some sort of violent “confrontation.” Here’s his description of what allegedly happened:
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Roosh had a violent “confrontation” in Poland
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He was apprehended by Polish authorities
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He’s being (or already has been) charged with some sort of crime and being held in jail
In a followup comment he offered additional details about the alleged incident:
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Confrontation was with Paul/Andre, his gypsy stalker
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Didn’t start violent, but escalated quickly
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Witnesses pointed to Roosh
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There were “serious injuries”
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Roosh is definitely being charged with something
In response to some skeptics who suggested this might all be a hoax, he wrote:
I too was hopeful this was some sort of joke–even if it meant me having egg on my face–but I just got a message from a second source. This is a guy who does back-end work for ROK and I’ve personally met, so I have no reason to doubt him.
Roosh is definitely being charged with a (serious) crime. The gypsy apparently took a nasty beating. What’s more, witnesses (who may be acquaintances of the gypsy) claim that Roosh was speaking epithets at him and may have used an object to strike him. I don’t know what the Polish laws are, but these circumstances apparently add to the severity of the crime. I got a couple of calls out to see what his legal prospects are, but the language barriers and time difference are making information hard to come by.
Naturally, Roosh’s fans being a bunch of racist assholes, the alleged ethnicity of Roosh’s alleged stalker led to some lovely generalizations about “gypsies” and this comment, from “Walter White,” who suggested that anti-“gypsy” bigotry might just get Roosh off the hook:
Scary stuff. I’ve travelled extensively in the region, and gypsies aren’t well thought of in Eastern Europe. Sounds terrible, but that’s the way it is. I guess an analogy for Americans would be like if a white dude got into a fight with a black guy in the 1940’s in the South. As wrong as it may be, the white guy would be given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Roosh will get the benefit of that with regard to a fight with a gypsy. Then again, he’s not a Pole – so he’s not gonna get much “home team” advantage.
I guess we’ll see, huh?
That is, assuming this isn’t all a publicity stunt.
Odd that Roosh appears to have emerged apparently unscathed from such an allegedly violent confrontation. His hair isn’t even mussed up.
…You don’t know your readership very well, do you, Roosh?
“Tub of estrogen?” I wonder where I can find one.
Pretty dud scam, since it was being questioned from the start. Not that I’d be surprised. “Oh, they’re not all falling for it … hai guyz it was just a joke rly!”
Ally – you’ll need a really good specialty store.
Yeah, Roosh, you sure got us. That’s why we called it from the jump.
His need for validation at any cost is pretty fucking sad. Or would be sad, if he weren’t such an asshole.
Someone with a username containing the c-word just tried to post this:
No, I think the egg is on Roosh’s face for trolling his own fans. Everyone here was skeptical of the story.
I didn’t dismiss it out of hand, though, despite the source, because I could very easily believe that Roosh would get into a fight with someone and end up in a Polish jail– especially someone like Paul/Andre, whom he’s talked about threateningly before.
kittehs – I know right? It was such a boring troll, and it wasn’t even done very well. Fuck, I think we could troll better than that if we tried.
The mentality that feels like you triumphed over someone else by making something up and having them believe you is really odd. They trusted you and you took advantage of that and somehow that makes you better than them…?
David: you should charge C-Word 20 bucks if he wants his comment to go through.
katz – It’s like a five-year-old thinks that they won against their parents because they were able to get away with a little white lie. Except that the people doing this are grown adults.
Roosh talks like a white supremacist even though he’d easily get kicked out of a klan meeting. What gives?
Oh, “joke” instead. Um, guys? The fact that people believe that you’d scam your users isn’t actually a sign of how awesome you are, it’s just a sign that everyone thinks you’re scumbags.
Oh gods yes, the times Ami Angelwings played troll on here were much better – and they were tongue-in-cheek!
Says even more about Roosh that his idea of fun is trying to get his followers worried for his safety. It’s just one more glob of shit in the ocean of diarrhoea that is his character.
There’s a similar mentality where people feel like they win if they hurt someone else’s feelings. I totally made you feel bad, yay me!
Both are predicated on the idea that any amount of openness or vulnerability to other people is a kind of weakness that deserves to be punished.
Ami’s comments as Meller’s dolls were a masterpiece of trolling, especially when he started talking to the dolls.
He started talking to them? I missed that bit! (This was before my time, I was skimming old threads.)
That is … mind boggling. 😀
See? This is why Meller will always get my vote for best troll. He was a lolcow of unprecedented dimensions.
Cassandra – … what. Doll talking? Sounds interesting.
Since people were skeptical right away, it was a pretty bad prank. They should have skipped the new power mad mod bit. It would’ve been more realistic. If any of the people who fell for it gave them money, isn’t it fraud? Not that I feel sorry for these POS.
Ellie, Roosh hangs out in the corner of the “manosphere” where all the proud racists/white supremacists hang out, though, yeah, I’m sure a lot of them would not consider him white. His own racism is bizarrely focused on Indians, and he’s brought a lot of his forum members along with him.
It’s like all the ranting misogynists do about how terrible it is that women have emotions. Never mind that emotions are an essential part of us, or that anger, jealousy, hate and insecurity are emotions too – oh no, they’re all Totes Rational Dudely Thinking.
They really do want to reject all the best in people – the vulnerability, the openness, trust and tenderness that go into close relationships, whatever their type.
I just want to use a metaphorical auger or something on these guys, to dig out how horrible they are, because I contrast them with loving men, and just despise them so much. They really are utterly contemptible. The comparison just makes me shake my head and think you really are the scum of the earth, aren’t you?
@ Alice
So, Meller was a troll from the days of yore who fantasized about putting disobedient women into state-controlled brothels, and who collected Madame Alexander dolls. His best non-doll-related moment was probably when he insisted that all the women here are jealous of a. cats and b. Hello Kitty, because our husbands or boyfriends would rather fuck them than us.
At one point Ami (former commenter) created several personas who were supposedly part of Meller’s doll collection. At first she just had them talk to each other and to the regular commenters, but then the conversation really jumped the shark when Meller started talking directly to the dolls/Ami.
Did he talk as if he was really conversing with his dolls? Talk about letting your fantasies loose. Ewww.
I guess this makes no sense at all unless you realize that Meller thought that his dolls “loved” him. Lots of people anthropomorphize their toys, especially when they’re kids, but he really took it to a whole new level.
Sounds like a winner, pronounced “wiener”.
And how charming, punishing women with rape-for-pay. At the hands of the state, no less. Worse than any dictator, he is.