UPDATE: Increasingly implausible posts from Tuthmosis, the source of all the “information” about Roosh’s alleged arrest, make it pretty clear this was a hoax.
UPDATE 2: And Roosh has officially admitted it:
Tuthmosis and I conspired to prank the internet that I was in jail. The picture used is from the German DDR museum. …
I expect many of you to be annoyed, and I hope Tuth and I didn’t betray your trust with the prank, but the security and viability of the forum was never compromised and the picture was just too good not to use. Credit goes to Tuth for his “new rules” (http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33639-…#pid667804 ), which—if you were in on the joke—was quite amusing. I also did not expect the story to be as believed as it was, since there are many flaws in the picture that suggest it’s not a real jail cell, but on the other hand, the prospect of me going to jail is not unexpected. If you are pissed off, I recommend you read Tuth’s bulletins to see the humor in the prank (the “bill me later” option was my favorite).
I do sincerely appreciate the thoughts of concern of my Polish imprisonment. Now of course I really will be jailed and no one will believe it because of this false jailing accusation. In case of a real “involuntary absence” from the forum, I trust Tuth to continue moderation efforts. For many years he has selflessly helped me maintain the community we have and not actually gone mad with power.
On a positive note, we managed to troll the tub of estrogen Manboobz and his readers.
Interesting that the people who fell the hardest for his hoax were his own fans. Also, I’m not sure that me posting something that essentially said “here’s something that looks a bit fishy that’s being reported by someone who may well be lying” really counts as “being trolled.”
ORIGINAL POST:
Before I go into any details here I want to say that all of this is coming from Roosh’s forum and hasn’t been confirmed in any way. So treat it with however much skepticism you deem appropriate. For all I know this could be some bizarre publicity stunt to promote Roosh’s blog and his reprehensible Return of Kings website.
But according to Roosh’s pal “Tuthmosis,” who says he is getting his info from a friend of Roosh in Poland, Roosh has been arrested after some sort of violent “confrontation.” Here’s his description of what allegedly happened:
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Roosh had a violent “confrontation” in Poland
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He was apprehended by Polish authorities
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He’s being (or already has been) charged with some sort of crime and being held in jail
In a followup comment he offered additional details about the alleged incident:
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Confrontation was with Paul/Andre, his gypsy stalker
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Didn’t start violent, but escalated quickly
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Witnesses pointed to Roosh
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There were “serious injuries”
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Roosh is definitely being charged with something
In response to some skeptics who suggested this might all be a hoax, he wrote:
I too was hopeful this was some sort of joke–even if it meant me having egg on my face–but I just got a message from a second source. This is a guy who does back-end work for ROK and I’ve personally met, so I have no reason to doubt him.
Roosh is definitely being charged with a (serious) crime. The gypsy apparently took a nasty beating. What’s more, witnesses (who may be acquaintances of the gypsy) claim that Roosh was speaking epithets at him and may have used an object to strike him. I don’t know what the Polish laws are, but these circumstances apparently add to the severity of the crime. I got a couple of calls out to see what his legal prospects are, but the language barriers and time difference are making information hard to come by.
Naturally, Roosh’s fans being a bunch of racist assholes, the alleged ethnicity of Roosh’s alleged stalker led to some lovely generalizations about “gypsies” and this comment, from “Walter White,” who suggested that anti-“gypsy” bigotry might just get Roosh off the hook:
Scary stuff. I’ve travelled extensively in the region, and gypsies aren’t well thought of in Eastern Europe. Sounds terrible, but that’s the way it is. I guess an analogy for Americans would be like if a white dude got into a fight with a black guy in the 1940’s in the South. As wrong as it may be, the white guy would be given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Roosh will get the benefit of that with regard to a fight with a gypsy. Then again, he’s not a Pole – so he’s not gonna get much “home team” advantage.
I guess we’ll see, huh?
That is, assuming this isn’t all a publicity stunt.
Odd that Roosh appears to have emerged apparently unscathed from such an allegedly violent confrontation. His hair isn’t even mussed up.
Even if it is true, what are the odds this dirtbag would spend very little time in jail for assaulting a Romani? Like people said upthread, him even being arrested over it is surprising.
Unless someone read Doosh as being even-less-racially-acceptable and chucked him in the slammer, which would be a bit of instant karma for Mr Racist.
According to Tuthmosis he has access to RooshV’s account” http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33639-post-667938.html#pid667938
these are to fund the Official Roosh Legal Fund and pay for the a very modest salary for my work.
Uh huh. That’s why you’re instituting weird and confusing “use of emoticon” rules instead of just a basic drive like David’s done or a donation button. Or charging for actual real benefits, instead of the same old shit.
Like, seriously, if I needed to get out of jail, I’d probably do something on a bit of a grander scale than this bullshit. Also, love the tough grandstanding about how they’ll totally break him out of jail, guys, because they’re macho alphas and can just… break into a prison or some shit.
I’m having a lovely image of the PUAs’ fantasies going awry when all the HB10s in them say “Piss off, you diseased loser”.
LBT – break into a prison in another country, no less.
NOTE: I have access to Roosh’s account now.
I’m just trying to imagine this, if I were Roosh.
So, I get put in jail for assault. Okay. What are the first things I would do?
Call up my friends with law experience and get their input on what I should do. Possibly call up a close friend for emotional support. MAYBE, if it looked like I’d be in there for a while, I’d tell one of my online friends to spread the word about me, though it’d probably be easier to just go to Argenti or something and be like “please leave this notice here, here, and here.” Considering how difficult/tedious it would be to deliver my password over the phone (it’s a random sequence), that’d be way easier than giving folks access to my account.
I WOULDN’T go, “Aha! It is this thing I always planned on! Quick institute Plan X! Institute paywalls on my blog! Charge them stupid amounts for using smilies! Let banned trolls pay their way back on! Mwahaha, this’ll cover my bail in no time!”
Seriously, I call hoax. Bad hoax.
I love how the RooshV lackeys went from “Let’s help Roosh!” to “Forum fees whuttt??!!!!”
RE: Kittehs
LBT – break into a prison in another country, no less.
I know! It’s just so… posturing, you know? It’s like, “we all know none of us will do this, but we feel the urge to say it anyway, just so nobody doubts our Game skills.” It’s the most artificial form of masculinity I’ve ever seen… and I’m familiar with Tom of Finland!
Ah, just skimmed through the latest couple pages of comments over on Roosh’s forum. Pretty clearly a hoax. I’ll update the post.
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33645-post-668008.html#pid668008
Also, wow, now they’re posting about us posting about them. And I’m talking about them posting about us posting about them.
OH GOD THE SPIRAL HAS BEGUN EVERYONE FLEE
Here’s his post on it:
Shorter RooshV: “Yea, I lied to all of my loyal followers! Even though many of you offered to donate money and help and everything and this was a huge slap in the face to all of that. Fuck you!
Also, give me money.”
Aaaaaand nobody was surprised ever.
Like I said. We could only BE so lucky.
But seriously, what a douchey thing to do. Not that that’s much of a surprise either…
On a positive note, we managed to troll the tub of estrogen Manboobz and his readers:
Dude, most of us were like, “Yeah, sure.” David even said nothing had been confirmed. This is the worst trolling ever. The freaking necrotrolls we’ve had a rash of lately did a better job of it. You didn’t troll at all successfully. You FAILED.
If anything, you trolled your commentariat. Good job, bro. Your penis is very big.
So, he was fantasising about beating up that guy, as part of his hoax.
Surprise, not.
LOL! At least his gahnonotthemuscleboundlook fellers look 1) clean and 2) pretty.
This is still a good development never the less; in case anyone who is still on the sidelines as to who these people really are decent people can just point to these sort of things to show who they really are.
And just to second LBT, fuck, they’ll do this shit to their own people and then claim how they are all victimized by the patriarchy.
Even if it’s tiny, it’s bigger than his brain.
Why am I not surprised that this was a hoax? The story sounds too ridiculous to believe, and if the confrontation was as violent as was claimed, then Roosh shouldn’t have looked as nice.
For a given definition of “nice”! 😀
LBT – “Also, wow, now they’re posting about us posting about them. And I’m talking about them posting about us posting about them.
OH GOD THE SPIRAL HAS BEGUN EVERYONE FLEE”
Whoa. I think you just looked into the face of the metaverse. O_O
(Damn it, I have to reteach myself HTML now.)
Dumbest, most pointless prank ever. I’m embarrassed for them.
kittehs – 😛 *bah-dum-tish!*
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33645-post-668061.html#pid668061
Of course; when all else fails RooshV uses the same abusive tactics that are used on women on their own people:
Missing is:
1. An actual “I AM SORRY for betraying your trust, using you, etc.
2. A promise not to do this shit again.
3. Any form of making amends for what has been done.
the true face of the metaverse
I vote scam. Also, fining members for using special emoticons that only he is allowed to use? Who knew you could combine juvenile I’m-specialness and con-artist greed in such a unique way