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Manosphere drama: Roosh Valizadeh reportedly arrested in Poland after “violent confrontation” [UPDATE: It’s a hoax]

Roosh, apparently in custody in Poland. Photo from Roosh V Forum
Roosh, either in custody in Poland or posing in a jail cell for some publicity stunt. Photo from Roosh V Forum

UPDATE: Increasingly implausible posts from Tuthmosis, the source of all the “information” about Roosh’s alleged arrest, make it pretty clear this was a hoax.

UPDATE 2: And Roosh has officially admitted it:

Tuthmosis and I conspired to prank the internet that I was in jail. The picture used is from the German DDR museum. …

I expect many of you to be annoyed, and I hope Tuth and I didn’t betray your trust with the prank, but the security and viability of the forum was never compromised and the picture was just too good not to use. Credit goes to Tuth for his “new rules” (http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33639-…#pid667804 ), which—if you were in on the joke—was quite amusing. I also did not expect the story to be as believed as it was, since there are many flaws in the picture that suggest it’s not a real jail cell, but on the other hand, the prospect of me going to jail is not unexpected. If you are pissed off, I recommend you read Tuth’s bulletins to see the humor in the prank (the “bill me later” option was my favorite).

I do sincerely appreciate the thoughts of concern of my Polish imprisonment. Now of course I really will be jailed and no one will believe it because of this false jailing accusation. In case of a real “involuntary absence” from the forum, I trust Tuth to continue moderation efforts. For many years he has selflessly helped me maintain the community we have and not actually gone mad with power.

On a positive note, we managed to troll the tub of estrogen Manboobz and his readers.

Interesting that the people who fell the hardest for his hoax were his own fans. Also, I’m not sure that me posting something that essentially said “here’s something that looks a bit fishy that’s being reported by someone who may well be lying” really counts as “being trolled.”

ORIGINAL POST:

Before I go into any details here I want to say that all of this is coming from Roosh’s forum and hasn’t been confirmed in any way. So treat it with however much skepticism you deem appropriate. For all I know this could be some bizarre publicity stunt to promote Roosh’s blog and his reprehensible Return of Kings website.

But according to Roosh’s pal “Tuthmosis,” who says he is getting his info from a friend of Roosh in Poland, Roosh has been arrested after some sort of violent “confrontation.” Here’s his description of what allegedly happened:

  • Roosh had a violent “confrontation” in Poland

  • He was apprehended by Polish authorities

  • He’s being (or already has been) charged with some sort of crime and being held in jail

In a followup comment he offered additional details about the alleged incident:

  • Confrontation was with Paul/Andre, his gypsy stalker

  • Didn’t start violent, but escalated quickly

  • Witnesses pointed to Roosh

  • There were “serious injuries”

  • Roosh is definitely being charged with something

In response to some skeptics who suggested this might all be a hoax, he wrote:

I too was hopeful this was some sort of joke–even if it meant me having egg on my face–but I just got a message from a second source. This is a guy who does back-end work for ROK and I’ve personally met, so I have no reason to doubt him.

Roosh is definitely being charged with a (serious) crime. The gypsy apparently took a nasty beating. What’s more, witnesses (who may be acquaintances of the gypsy) claim that Roosh was speaking epithets at him and may have used an object to strike him. I don’t know what the Polish laws are, but these circumstances apparently add to the severity of the crime. I got a couple of calls out to see what his legal prospects are, but the language barriers and time difference are making information hard to come by.

Naturally, Roosh’s fans being a bunch of racist assholes, the alleged ethnicity of Roosh’s alleged stalker led to some lovely generalizations about “gypsies” and this comment, from “Walter White,” who suggested that anti-“gypsy” bigotry might just get Roosh off the hook:

Scary stuff. I’ve travelled extensively in the region, and gypsies aren’t well thought of in Eastern Europe. Sounds terrible, but that’s the way it is. I guess an analogy for Americans would be like if a white dude got into a fight with a black guy in the 1940’s in the South. As wrong as it may be, the white guy would be given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Roosh will get the benefit of that with regard to a fight with a gypsy. Then again, he’s not a Pole – so he’s not gonna get much “home team” advantage.

I guess we’ll see, huh?

That is, assuming this isn’t all a publicity stunt.

Odd that Roosh appears to have emerged apparently unscathed from such an allegedly violent confrontation. His hair isn’t even mussed up.

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kittehserf
10 years ago

insanitybytes – tautology, not oxymoron. Oxymoron is contradictions, like “decent MRA”.

neuroticbeagle
neuroticbeagle
10 years ago

lulz… better start praying this doesn’t happen too often,

What is “this”? A rapist going to jail? “This” should happen more often (assuming it’s happening at all).

if you lose too many of your meal tickets,

There’s a limited supply of bigots and assholes on the internet???

you may actually be forced to get a real job.

What the hell is a “real” job anyways? Writing misogynistic bullshit and demanding that your followers give hand over their last dime is a real something- not quite sure you can call it a job.

don’t bite the hand that feeds you, bitch.

Uh, isn’t the hand that feeds him the Feminist Hivemind and not the assholes he mocks? We, the Hivemind are not offended by this post. This is pretty much why We “feed” him. (That and he is Us with cats and ferrets).

.5+ For not using Fatrelle

-2 For using something as equally “creative”

cloudiah
10 years ago

Wow, if this is a publicity stunt, it shows that they think their audience consists of people who like the idea of committing racist violence. And if it’s true it shows that Roosh likes actually committing racist violence.

katz
10 years ago

And two points to the Blockquote Monster!

insanitybytes22
10 years ago

“….if this is a publicity stunt, it shows that they think their audience consists of people who like the idea of committing racist violence…”

Near as I can tell, they’d prefer to commit sexual violence, but racial violence will do in a pinch.

cloudiah
10 years ago

Wow:

Don’t stress about the progressive media gloating, after all. It’s better to just own it. He’s just proved he’s capable of laying the smack down on a persistent hater. Do you think Lindy West’s husband could beat up any of her haters? Being an interesting man means you sometimes transgress, and being jailed for physical assault against another man will only add an element of masculine danger to his game. He just has to tough it out.

Source. (Emphasis mine.)

kittehserf
10 years ago

I like the way the kitties in the second pic are completely blocking the stairs.

… I hope none of the veilside crew saw that pic. I can just see them spreading themselves over both stairways.

kittehserf
10 years ago

Interesting man?

Roosh?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

THEY find violent men interesting. They need to stop projecting like IMAX screens.

hookergal
hookergal
10 years ago

Seems Roosh signed into the forum not 5min ago. LOL. And how could the enact those “rules” seriously. It’s a big FU to the men on the sites. I’m kinda glad there were many men challenging all the stupidity of Tuth. And this whole thing.

Is there a jail for just horrible people. Maybe not “law breaking” but overall nasty pasties? There should be.

Bina
10 years ago

lulz… better start praying this doesn’t happen too often, flabtrelle. if you lose too many of your meal tickets, you may actually be forced to get a real job.

don’t bite the hand that feeds you, bitch.

As I recall, David actually DOES have a real job, and only does this for fun.

And if it stinks in here, as you say, it’s only because you farted.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

*eyeroll* Really, no matter how this pans out, it doesn’t speak well of anyone in ROK. News at eleven.

kittehserf
10 years ago

It’d be good if Doosh’s followers did realise what an FU this is to them (and that, as I suspect, there’s no such person as Toothy) and dumped him. But there are always more gullible misogynists wanting to join in the circlejerk, alas.

Be even better if Roosh really was in prison, of course, but I don’t believe he is.

Typical, isn’t it – they think violence makes them interesting, and their favourite form of it is rape. I bet they would shit themselves if they were ever in danger, though, like a battle. None of them would sit calmly amid cannonfire.

kittehserf
10 years ago

David – might it be Dooshyboy fantasising about beating the guy up?

Bina
10 years ago

I googled for news items about Roosh, but so far, nothing relevant has turned up. I wouldn’t doubt that there was a real vendetta going on against this other guy, though. Maybe give it a day or two and check for headlines?

hookergal
hookergal
10 years ago

So. The comments are now all “this is a joke” based on the second wave of “rules” http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33639-page-6.html

theladyzombie
theladyzombie
10 years ago

Here’s hoping that not only do they throw the book at him, they write more and then throw those at him.

contrapangloss
10 years ago

I’m betting it’s a hoax. The fishiness is strong with this one…

Not that roosh doesn’t deserve to be in jail, if only a twentieth of what he claims to have done is true. If he is, I won’t mourn.

However, if he is in jail, then massive sympathies to the person he assaulted. Hope they are alright, or at least in a stable condition. Any word on their status would be appreciated.

I’m still betting it’s all a mondo troll hoax. The picture looks pretty stagy to me…

fmudd
10 years ago

If it is real then even better news for humanity. Keep this guy off of the streets.

Also, more money grubbing news:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33639-post-667938.html#pid667938

A lot of guys are expressing discomfort with the revenue-building moves that I’m instituting here, but these are to fund the Official Roosh Legal Fund and pay for the a very modest salary for my work. The remainder of the revenue will be reinvested into developing the forum.

Unbanning Fee

Banned members will have a one-time opportunity to pay a $50 fee to be re-instituted on a probationary basis. Former member Dash Global has already expressed interest in this option.

Partnership with NaughtyNomad Forum
In the coming the weeks, NaughtyNomad and I will be launching a partnership where vetted members on his forum can re-join the RVF for a discounted price.

You can’t make this stuff up.

zippydoo
zippydoo
10 years ago

While I’m not amused that apparently Roosh beat someone up but doesn’t have a mark on him, meaning there is a potential victim out there, I am amused about the damage one Polish rumoured-Romani man did with a few bad gifs and some fake Facebook accounts. Apparently, alpha game isn’t hard to throw off, judging from the way they scuttled around afraid of being deprived of all the fantasy hot females if women in Poland were warned that a-holes looking for casual sex were potentially STI-carrying a-holes. Oh Noes, the horror.

Bina
10 years ago

“Official Roosh Legal Fund”?

Dude, if you had any integrity at all, you’d let him rot.