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Manosphere drama: Roosh Valizadeh reportedly arrested in Poland after “violent confrontation” [UPDATE: It’s a hoax]

Roosh, apparently in custody in Poland. Photo from Roosh V Forum
Roosh, either in custody in Poland or posing in a jail cell for some publicity stunt. Photo from Roosh V Forum

UPDATE: Increasingly implausible posts from Tuthmosis, the source of all the “information” about Roosh’s alleged arrest, make it pretty clear this was a hoax.

UPDATE 2: And Roosh has officially admitted it:

Tuthmosis and I conspired to prank the internet that I was in jail. The picture used is from the German DDR museum. …

I expect many of you to be annoyed, and I hope Tuth and I didn’t betray your trust with the prank, but the security and viability of the forum was never compromised and the picture was just too good not to use. Credit goes to Tuth for his “new rules” (http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33639-…#pid667804 ), which—if you were in on the joke—was quite amusing. I also did not expect the story to be as believed as it was, since there are many flaws in the picture that suggest it’s not a real jail cell, but on the other hand, the prospect of me going to jail is not unexpected. If you are pissed off, I recommend you read Tuth’s bulletins to see the humor in the prank (the “bill me later” option was my favorite).

I do sincerely appreciate the thoughts of concern of my Polish imprisonment. Now of course I really will be jailed and no one will believe it because of this false jailing accusation. In case of a real “involuntary absence” from the forum, I trust Tuth to continue moderation efforts. For many years he has selflessly helped me maintain the community we have and not actually gone mad with power.

On a positive note, we managed to troll the tub of estrogen Manboobz and his readers.

Interesting that the people who fell the hardest for his hoax were his own fans. Also, I’m not sure that me posting something that essentially said “here’s something that looks a bit fishy that’s being reported by someone who may well be lying” really counts as “being trolled.”

ORIGINAL POST:

Before I go into any details here I want to say that all of this is coming from Roosh’s forum and hasn’t been confirmed in any way. So treat it with however much skepticism you deem appropriate. For all I know this could be some bizarre publicity stunt to promote Roosh’s blog and his reprehensible Return of Kings website.

But according to Roosh’s pal “Tuthmosis,” who says he is getting his info from a friend of Roosh in Poland, Roosh has been arrested after some sort of violent “confrontation.” Here’s his description of what allegedly happened:

  • Roosh had a violent “confrontation” in Poland

  • He was apprehended by Polish authorities

  • He’s being (or already has been) charged with some sort of crime and being held in jail

In a followup comment he offered additional details about the alleged incident:

  • Confrontation was with Paul/Andre, his gypsy stalker

  • Didn’t start violent, but escalated quickly

  • Witnesses pointed to Roosh

  • There were “serious injuries”

  • Roosh is definitely being charged with something

In response to some skeptics who suggested this might all be a hoax, he wrote:

I too was hopeful this was some sort of joke–even if it meant me having egg on my face–but I just got a message from a second source. This is a guy who does back-end work for ROK and I’ve personally met, so I have no reason to doubt him.

Roosh is definitely being charged with a (serious) crime. The gypsy apparently took a nasty beating. What’s more, witnesses (who may be acquaintances of the gypsy) claim that Roosh was speaking epithets at him and may have used an object to strike him. I don’t know what the Polish laws are, but these circumstances apparently add to the severity of the crime. I got a couple of calls out to see what his legal prospects are, but the language barriers and time difference are making information hard to come by.

Naturally, Roosh’s fans being a bunch of racist assholes, the alleged ethnicity of Roosh’s alleged stalker led to some lovely generalizations about “gypsies” and this comment, from “Walter White,” who suggested that anti-“gypsy” bigotry might just get Roosh off the hook:

Scary stuff. I’ve travelled extensively in the region, and gypsies aren’t well thought of in Eastern Europe. Sounds terrible, but that’s the way it is. I guess an analogy for Americans would be like if a white dude got into a fight with a black guy in the 1940’s in the South. As wrong as it may be, the white guy would be given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Roosh will get the benefit of that with regard to a fight with a gypsy. Then again, he’s not a Pole – so he’s not gonna get much “home team” advantage.

I guess we’ll see, huh?

That is, assuming this isn’t all a publicity stunt.

Odd that Roosh appears to have emerged apparently unscathed from such an allegedly violent confrontation. His hair isn’t even mussed up.

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Binjabreel
Binjabreel
10 years ago

It’s either a two-man con, or else it’s an internal coup and Roosh has just come down with a serious case of Thutmose trouble.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

That or, in keeping with the David-is-ferrets myth, Roosh IS Thutmose!

*DRAMATIC PRAIRIE DOG*

maggiesausage
maggiesausage
10 years ago

“Just in case this sort of thing ever went down.”

Let’s say it’s the truth. Surely means Roosh and his lackey always knew his shitlord behaviour was gonna get him in massive trouble one day. Go on worshipping him, PUA-wannabes!

Bina
10 years ago

His hair isn’t even mussed up.

I assume you’re speaking relatively here, David. I mean, how can one tell?

So they’re going to start charging money for “membership?” Are they going to start sending out “Roosh V Club” buttons and secret decoder rings?

Heh. If they did, it would only make douchebags that much easier to spot. (Not that it’s necessarily all that difficult now…)

anonyloolzozlzlzozl
anonyloolzozlzlzozl
10 years ago

lulz… better start praying this doesn’t happen too often, flabtrelle. if you lose too many of your meal tickets, you may actually be forced to get a real job.

don’t bite the hand that feeds you, bitch.

alternatesteve90
10 years ago

@hookergal: Seconded, prettty much. =(

kittehserf
10 years ago

Odd that Roosh appears to have emerged apparently unscathed from such an alegedly violent confrontation. His hair isn’t even mussed up.

Well, of course not. The grease holds it in place.

Roosh having a stalker seems the unlikeliest part of this – unless it was someone looking for payback over one of Roosh’s rapes. That I could believe.

I’m not holding my breath till I have confirmation. For now, I remain skeptical, purely because we could only BE so lucky.

Exactly. Too good to be true.

Tuthmosis is apparently now declaring himself in charge of the Roosh forums and announcing a new … fee structure?

Aha! It’s a COUP!

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

If it’s true, jail is the perfect place for Roosh. But I’m gonna go with publicity stunt/cash grab.

Brooked
Brooked
10 years ago

Forum Emergency Plan

It’s an emergency! Hopefully Roosh left the launch codes with his second-in-command.

I’m calling bullshit, not sure how it works in Poland, but you don’t get to keep your bag in an US jail. You also don’t have access to a smart phone and an ability to snap candid pictures of “jail cells”. Do they have some explanation of how someone got that photo? Then again, who cares.

A new fee structure for membership tiers, datasheets, and banned members.

That sentence makes a lot of sense, I wonder what fee datasheets and banned members are going to to pay.

Posluszny
Posluszny
10 years ago

I have Polish blood in me and have visited Poland many times as a kid and a few times as an adult. The racism part is going to turn into irony fast if he ends up in a Polish prison. There are no regrets on my part when I say that there are some of the most xenophobic people in the world found in Poland and in prisons it gets even worse. They won’t take too kindly to some Arabian (I think that is what Roosh is) guy going around telling everyone how to sleep with Polish women. Prison is too harsh a sentence for anyone and I do hate a lot of this guy’s writing but he is going to have a really tough time there. Guess it all caught up to him and can teach us all a lesson. Controversy only goes so far until it all backfires on you.

BigMomma
10 years ago

I’m still laughing so hard I’m wheezing. emergency plan ? Hahahahahahahahahawheezehahahahahahahahahaha it’s a fucking blog…

katz
10 years ago

I vote for publicity stunt.

Wetherby
Wetherby
10 years ago

lulz… better start praying this doesn’t happen too often, flabtrelle. if you lose too many of your meal tickets, you may actually be forced to get a real job.

don’t bite the hand that feeds you, bitch.

What a strange person you are. Do they have oxygen on your planet or are you forced to breathe something more noxious?

BigMomma
10 years ago

me too, sounds like a scam

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

They had “silver” and “gold” membership for a while now where you get awesome stuff like sending members more private messages and changing your username : http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-32112.html

Oh my. $21 for a “Lifetime Gold Membership.” Well, a fool and his money and all that.

Anonylulzytroll: That was some lazy and boring trolling. I mean, that was just sad. Why even bother if you’re not going to put any thought or effort into it?

anonyloolzozlzlzozl
anonyloolzozlzlzozl
10 years ago

it does stink in here, i’ll give you that.

fmudd
10 years ago

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33639-post-667804.html#pid667804

So here’s the money-making kicker; they’ll now start charging people after a “warning” and for using certain pictures.

4. Fees for Warnings. Minor warnings will cost $2, 3-day warnings will cost $5, and 7-dayers will be $10. Users will have to set up an escrow account to cover forum expenses. Users with over 50 rep points will have a “bill me later” option which they will have to settle at the end of every month. Delinquent account will lose posting privileges. I expect this system to be up within 30 days.

6. Forum Administration Smilies. The following animated gifs are off-limits to users. Only I, and the yet-to-be-named moderator, can use them. Unauthorized use of it will result in a one-week suspension ($10).

7. Change in Registration. Registration will re-open to 365 days a year, but new members will be required to be silver, gold, or lifetime gold. Also the low introductory rates will be phased out.

All for “moderation” and “hosting” costs, of course.

kittehserf
10 years ago

“Real job” – laughable, coming from one of Roosh’s fanboys.

That’s probably no jail cell the idiot’s in – it’s his latest high-class accommodation from his “earnings”.

Which could explain the lastest scam!

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Tuthmosis, in his manor (a sad one bedroom with little furniture and Cheeto dust everywhere):

“Quick, to the DoucheCave! Our leader is in jail, time to activate the BLOG EMERGENCY PLAN. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. BLOG EMERGENCY PLAN, ACTIVATE.”

Brooked
Brooked
10 years ago

Oh look, another troll is using a school yard insult, “flabtrelle”, that probably would have made David very sad if he was seven years old. Do these trolls realize just how pathetic it is for an adult to use grammar school insults? You’re embarrassing yourself, broseph.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

If this is true, it’s reminding me of Buffy/Angel. For anyone who doesn’t know, Angel got a curse put on him for killing a beloved member of a Roma community. He was cursed with a soul so he would suffer from guilt at all the people he killed and tortured as a really evil vampire. Despite my skepticism of all things supernatural, I have to hope something similar happened to Roosh.

Or he’s just doing this to defraud his asshole followers. Is this guy famous enough to warrant a journalist looking into it? I’ve got no idea if arrest records are publicly available in Poland, but it shouldn’t be all that hard to confirm the story.

Wetherby
Wetherby
10 years ago

Does Manboobz have an EMERGENCY PLAN?

fmudd
10 years ago

Tuthmosis, in his manor (a sad one bedroom with little furniture and Cheeto dust everywhere):

“Quick, to the DoucheCave! Our leader is in jail, time to activate the BLOG EMERGENCY PLAN. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. BLOG EMERGENCY PLAN, ACTIVATE.”

PHASE 1: Initiate “take loser’s money” protocol; stat! Hurray, before they see through this shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kittehserf
10 years ago

Gawd, what a ridiculous notion, charging for smileys and the like! Would even Roosh’s witless followers bother to cough up for that sort of shit? And how, pray, is he going to extract money from people if they don’t want to pay, unless he’s suddenly learned how to hack bank accounts? I wonder how many “fuck yous” he’ll get from the less-than-utterly-committed.