Red Pill Theorist: Women are like children. Except you can have sex with them.

“ah, the ever popular threat of violence because woman get to choose to have sex with whom they want, to not be in shitty relationships, etc etc wtc” – – Was that a threat of violance….I had not noticed…I’m glad you pointed that out to me. Its good to have a polestar as to what constitutes physical threats amoungst the posters here.
Its also interesting that this supposed threat is credited as being inspired because woman can have sex with whom they want…

Come see the violance inherint in the system….help…help…I’m being repressed.

I think what people are missing about the phenomina of PUA’s and their misogony is the obvious reactionary flavor…

Uh, no, that is not being missed. It’s pretty obvious that PUAs are reacting against the radical feminist notion that women are people who have all the same rights as men.

… and just how reasonable it is given 40 years of feminist success

No, it is not reasonable. It is completely unreasonable. How the hell can anyone construe “women are just children and men need to dominate, control and manipulate them” as a reasonable response to anything?

By no historical standard can we call modern male/famale relationships healthy or stable…

Says you. By what “historical standard” are you holding “modern male/female” relationships to? In other words, citation needed.

Peoplein modern society spend larger percentages of their lives outside relationships than has ever been the case.

1. Citation needed. 2. So what?

When trapped in a social dialectic based on power…people tend to be…well dialectical. It strikes me as silly and vain to advance a dialectic of power between men and woman,(the patriarchy) and expect the reactionary movment to be fair and rational in their response..

Do you even have any idea what you’re saying here? Because this is pure gibberish. A dialectic is a conversation that attempts to get at the truth of the matter (in very brief – it’s a little more complicated than this). Patriarchy is not a dialectic.

@gillyrosebee, Recipe for that ranch dressing, please?

“ah, the ever popular threat of violence because woman get to choose to have sex with whom they want, to not be in shitty relationships, etc etc wtc” – – Was that a threat of violance….I had not noticed…I’m glad you pointed that out to me. Its good to have a polestar as to what constitutes physical threats amoungst the posters here.
Its also interesting that this supposed threat is credited as being inspired because woman can have sex with whom they want…

Come see the violance inherint in the system….help…help…I’m being repressed.

I don’t know who you’re mocking here with your bad spelling and unclear thinking, but it’s an epic fail. You’re right about only one thing, though…you hadn’t noticed a goddamn thing. Too busy prattling nonsense, I guess.

Frankly, Fitzge67, I don’t consider yours to be a very interesting, intelligent or edifying response, or an honest one either, should it come to that, given that it is built on…what is the technical term…? Oh, right. Bullshit.

If historically high levels of divorce, illigitamacy, un-chossen childlessness, and the rest dont represent a breakdown in relationships between men and women then it would seem impossible to prove in any fasion (citations or no) that relationships are better/worse than what they should be.

Divorces are not at a historically high level. They peaked in the late 70s/early 80s and have been heading down since. Illegitimacy has plateaued since the early 2000s, with rates among whites being the only group still rising. And maybe you’ve missed it, but lots (and lots) of people are feeling free to be childless by choice nowadays. So it’s difficult to take you seriously when each and every one of your contentions seem to have been taken directly from Encyclopedia Posterior.

I have a lot of sympathy for people who want to be in a relationship and have kids and haven’t managed to do so. I have no sympathy for people who want to be in a relationship and have kids and who have decided that the only way they can do so is to take hard-won economic and social opportunities and freedom of choice away from women. I judge a society as healthy the same way I judge a family as healthy, when the members are as free as possible from the conditions of deprivation and able to pursue those things that fill their lives with meaning and happiness.

If some aspect of society can’t survive half the population having freedom of self-determination, then it does not deserve to exist and I won’t mourn it’s passing.

you peel the corn husks off of the tamales. They are not meant to be eaten!

Mmmm, tamales. But famale husks are made with chocolate. The same chocolate used for bon bons. They are most definitely meant to be eaten.

di·a·lec·ti·cal

/ˌdīəˈlektikəl/

adjective

adjective: dialectical

1. relating to the logical discussion of ideas and opinions.

“dialectical ingenuity”

2. concerned with or acting through opposing forces.

Here I am obviously asserting the second more common understanding of dialectic…as in “Hegalian dialectic”

It’s HEGEL, not “Hegal”. And Jesus H. Christ, Fitzy, but you are STOOPID. Do you not brain?

You know, if I were Derbyshire, I would not want to be associated with a white supremacist who thinks women are only good as a wet hole to stick his dick in and thinks that women older than 20 are past their pri-…

Wait, never mind, the two were made for each other.

(Stop by during the lectures or the monthly Cafe Inquiry, I mean. I’m a volunteer; I’m not there at the Center every day. #clarification)

Recipe for that ranch dressing, please?

Happy to! I make a powder like the Hidden Valley packets and mix it a batch at a time:

1/2 cup buttermilk powder (King Arthur is best IMO)
1 tbsp (with 1 tsp in reserve) dried parsley
1/2 tsp dill
1 tsp each onion powder, onion flakes, garlic powder, salt and pepper
2 tbsp dried portabella mushroom pieces (gives the umami flavor that would be achieved by msg in the off the shelf product)

Put the spices (all but 1tsp of the parsley) and the mushrooms in a spice grinder or blender, and process till it’s a fairly fine powder. Add the buttermilk powder and process once or twice to mix well, then dump out into an airtight jar (mason jars are your friend!). Stir in the remaining parsley so that you have little bits you can see in the final mix.

If you like a more creamy dressing, mix 1/2 cup mayonnaise and 1/2 cup milk with the powder; if you like something more tangy, use sour cream and milk or, as in my case, a whole cup of greek yogurt. Start with a tablespoon of your premade powder and go up from there until you have something you like; I find 1 1/2 tablespoons of powder to 1 cup of dairy to be the perfect ratio.

I make salad at least four times a week, so I go through it pretty fast, but I’d imagine that it would keep pretty well in the fridge either as powder or mixed up as dressing.

Incidentally, if you put some of the powder in a shaker, it is DELICIOUS if you shake some over a bowl of stove-popped popcorn!

Im afraid that we have not ploughed any real new ground here…If historically high levels of divorce, illigitamacy, un-chossen childlessness, and the rest dont represent a breakdown in relationships between men and women then it would seem impossible to prove in any fasion (citations or no) that relationships are better/worse than what they should be. The idea that historically high levels of divorce are simply and only people leaving “abusive” relationships and not callous, frivilous or self serving behavior is likewise nieve. What you have done is simply eliminated any real matrix by which people can judge the health of a society.I dont consider this to be an honest response- rather it seems simply an attempt to problematasize the narrative. If feminism is not strong enough and self confident enough to admit that it has caused serious dislocations in relationships and (at the very least) contributed to family breakdown, then its clearly not a liberal and humane intellectual movment but simply a great refusal to contribute to a healthy or stable social order.

nieve

nieve1 [neev, neef]
noun
Archaic Northern British and Scot. Dialect . a clenched or closed hand; fist.

matrix

noun, plural ma·tri·ces [mey-tri-seez, ma-] ma·trix·es.
1.
something that constitutes the place or point from which something else originates, takes form, or develops: The Greco-Roman world was the matrix for Western civilization.

plough

plow [plou] Show IPA
noun
1.
an agricultural implement used for cutting, lifting, turning over, and partly pulverizing soil.

illigitamacy

noun
the state or quality of being illigitamate
——– that is, the quality of not being given the right kind of Tamate tablets for your epilepsy.
If you have migraines, always get the right kind of Tamate! Don’t accept knock of brands.

Or the closed fist originating from a misunderstanding of feminism will implant a farming implement in your ideologically dented skull