Meet Sasha. Sasha is an angry young man living in England (allegedly), with a super-HAWT girlfriend (allegedly), and a lot of opinions about feminism (not-so-allegedly). The other day, he decided to share some of these opinions with the world. Or at least with any of those feminists who happened to be reading the Men’s Rights subreddit at the time.
In a topic devoted to a conference on “lad culture” in British universities, Sasha lashed out at feminists for what he sees as their hypocritical attack on boorish, sexist “lads.” Hypocritical, you see, because these very same women allegedly have sex with posh men all the bloody time:
You don’t like ‘lad culture’? My dear, I don’t give a fuck what you do and don’t like. … The hypocrisy is staggering – you’ll be dropping your knickers in a flash if a dashing Etonian invited you to the Bullingdon, but God forbid some working class fella gets a bit tipsy and sings a rugby song.
Naturally, he dismissed women’s accounts of harassment as stuff and nonsense:
You’ve been threatened with rape by fellow students ‘to loosen you up’? have you fuck, you lying toe tag. If you’re going to make shit up try to make it less fantastical why don’t you.
So in short my dear, fuck you and fuck the high horse you rode in on.
In a series of followup comments so angry that some of them were actually downvoted to zero by the Men’s Rights crowd — I know, right! — Sasha pranced about on his own high horse spewing misogynistic nonsense. First, he demanded that feminists take on the very serious gold-digging whore problem:
[A]re women inclined to be gold-digging whores? Unfortunately, there’s a good case for saying you are. I wouldn’t paint all of you with such a broad brush, but let’s put it simply: feminists – you’ve got to own this shit. There are many, many negative aspects of femininity, and you’ve got enough shit of your own to address before you start pointing fingers at anyone else.
Then he proclaimed feminists to be the equivalent of the racist English Defense League and the Klan.
You’re a bigot. You don’t understand that you’re a bigot, because like the EDL or the KKK you think that your status as a ‘persecuted group’ gives you the right to behave as vilely as possible. However be in no doubt as the depth of my utter disgust for you as a human being and for your ideology.
Oh, we be in no doubt.
You are a supporter of an ideology of hate. You are a feminist. You are, by definition, a fascistic narcissist who trades in lies, deceit and hatred. I will fight you until my dying breath and society would be better without you. That clear enough?
When a female Redditor pointed out that she herself had been catcalled on campus, he pulled out his trump card: his EX-MODEL GIRLFRIEND.
OK, well how do you explain the fact that my partner, who is an attractive 20-something American former fashion model attending a Northern English university, says that she has never, not once, ever, heard a single catcalling insult or ever felt threatened in any way whatsoever on her campus, or anywhere in the UK?
I faxed this comment of his to my fax girlfriend Kate Winslet, and she faxed back a message about what a lying loser she thought he was. Then we fax made out for a while until we ran out of toner.
Anyway, then Sasha yelled at his main critic for a bit:
You’re not a decent human being, you’re a feminist. You’re as vile and reprehensible as other bigots like the cunts in the Westborough Baptist Church, or Golden Dawn or the EDL or the KKK. Fuck you, fuck the family that raised you in such a cloud of ignorance and hatred, and fuck everything you stand for.
As for ‘helping men’, disparaging bigoted cunts like you is a key part of it.
Yes, that’s right. He called someone a “bigoted cunt,” without the slightest bit of self-awareness.
Then he took it a bit too far:
By the way, do you like cats? I know most feminists do. I like cats too. I’ll bet your cat thinks you’re a bigoted cunt as well.
Dude. Don’t EVEN go there.
NOTE: Thanks to Cloudiah and the AgainstMensRights subreddit for pointing me to Sasha’s oeuvre.
Ah yes, the “all feminists are ugly” bitchfit. Seriously, do they not realize that “ugly” is an immature comment that sounds like it was made by second grade bullies on the playground to hurt the unpopular girl? Honestly, even if all of us were ugly, that doesn’t discount what we have to say. It proves your point that you look at appearance and see women as sex objects that you have to resort to that kind of insult.
Am I the only one that would support MRA’s if they were allies to the feminist movement? If they actually did one iota of good to help male rape and domestic abuse victims and attempted to destroy hardcore macho culture, I could actually stand behind it. But they don’t, they just go around talking about how women don’t have problems with oppression and IT’S ALL ABOUT THE MENZ, DAMMIT.
Oh god, as if the sentiment weren’t bad enough, it used Comic Sans. Kill it with fire.
I really admire Cloudia’s work on posterising Sasha’s incoherent rants, but what is going on (in the first poster) with Trollgirl’s boobs? It’s sort of underboobing, but on top. And if that image came from a screencap, it still seems to have a ‘magnifying glass’ tool floating over her right collarbone…
Those aren’t breasts, they’re green balloons shoved into her top.
I’m now wondering why she needs trollder boulder holders.
I can’t imagine.
Doesn’t seem to have cheered her up any. Look at that downturned mouth and generally miserable expression. Maybe she’s looking in the mirror and thinking “This isn’t working, is it …”
“I went to all that effort to get falsies in exactly my olive-green skin tone… and it still looks like all I did was shove a couple of melons down my top!”
Oh, and hi Viscaria! (I eventually caught up with the older thread.) I’m lurking more than posting these days, but it’s good to see some of the old crew remember me 😉
LOL love it!
More things you can’t buy with food stamps — motherfucking TOILET PAPER!
Last I checked that was something required by American hygiene standards (worded such because there are, of course, cultures that deal with their backsides in other manners)
Cookies and ice cream? I could eat as much as I liked. Wipe my ass? Better scrounge up cash! (PA does not have welfare for disabled people anymore, don’t get me started on that)
@ gillyrosebee
Many farmers markets here accept food stamps (not sure if the one in the Ferry Building does though). Do the ones near you not? If so, that sucks. I really think the policy on buying hot foods needs to at least be amended to include hot foods sold at the supermarket, because excluding those foods excludes a lot of the very options that people who don’t have time to cook might find most helpful.
On the raw diet for cats, they do sell a supplement to add in for people who’re making it and don’t have the right equipment to grind bones. There are commercial versions of the raw diet available too, not sure if they’re any good. Given how many people don’t seem to realize that cats need the bones and organs that might be the better option for some, though.
RE: auggziliary
No soaps, paper products, household supplies, vitamins, or medicines????
Nope! And that’s why so many poor people are desperately in need of those things! Toothpaste and deodorant were my big bugaboos, I recall… and yeah, I tried to avoid taking meds as much as possible, just because MONEY!
RE: gillyrosebee
I heard that there is a local group that goes to farmer’s markets and is allowed to accept WIC and SNAP and give people tokens they can use to buy from the farmers.
This is true, depending on the area, at least in the USA! In Boston, there was even a program that would make food stamps stretch twice as far, which did WONDERS for my diet for a while. Local stuff be expensive, yo.
RE: DDW
if a feminist wants to make a poster mocking a MRA, she should at least “try” to get her grammar right.
…you realize that was intentional, right? Part of the mockery of MRA posters’ infamous spelling and grammar errors?
But yes, do sit upon that high horse, feeling smug about yourself. It really endears you.
No it doesn’t appear intentional to me, and if it is, it is then only intended to be “gotten” by some in-group. Your nasty presumption of my intentions is uncalled for. I don’t really care to be endeared to you, I care that when misogynists are being refuted, that ammunition isn’t given to anyone to claim, well look, she can’t even use proper grammar. Sorry I intruded upon your little clique party. Some people who care about these issues, such as myself, are not in the “in” group.
DDW,
satire
sat·ire
[sat-ahyuhr] Show IPA
noun
1.
the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
2.
a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
3.
a literary genre comprising such compositions.
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Origin:
1500–10; < Latin satira, variant of satura medley, perhaps feminine derivative of satur sated (see saturate)
Related forms
non·sat·ire, noun
Can be confused: 1. burlesque, caricature, cartoon, parody, satire (see synonym study at burlesque)(see synonym study at the current entry) ; 2. satire, satyr.
Synonyms
1. See irony1 . 2, 3. burlesque, caricature, parody, travesty. Satire, lampoon refer to literary forms in which vices or follies are ridiculed. Satire the general term, often emphasizes the weakness more than the weak person, and usually implies moral judgment and corrective purpose: Swift's satire of human pettiness and bestiality. Lampoon refers to a form of satire, often political or personal, characterized by the malice or virulence of its attack: lampoons of the leading political figures.
RE: DDW
Wow. That’s uh. Quite the response you’re having there. Would you like a picture of a puppy, or perhaps a cyborg wombat?
My only thought was that the poster would have been improved by comic sans.
Psst, go for the cyborg wombat.
Well, then colour me as stating it is really bad satire when it has to be explained. Some other obvious errors (rather than common ones) should have been introduced. Particularly when the original quote didn’t contain those errors. So…. it is perfectly acceptable when mocking one person and using their words, to interpose an entirely different error. I know satire quite well. But this is way to ripe for misinterpretation, as evidenced as how I, an outsider, saw it. Perhaps spelling something, like oh say, “bigot” as “bigit” would have made it obvious.
I do thank you for not presuming upon my intentions.
Neglected a question mark, this should say: So…. it is perfectly acceptable when mocking one person and using their words, to interpose an entirely different error?
I ask, because no, I don’t think it is acceptable. The higher road and all that. There is plenty to mock in what he said. No need to introduce something not there.
Anyways, defend the cause at all costs it appears. Do you really want that mindset? That is precisely what many of the MRAs do.
And yes, I realize I used “way to” instead of “way too.” Posting a comment isn’t quick the same as creating a graphic. Anyways… not interested in a battleground. Have fun. Back to reading.
DDW: That’s a direct quote on the poster. The maker if the poster doesn’t have bad grammar, the person who typed out that hateful little screed does. Which you’d have picked up on. If you had read the caption directly underneath the poster.
You can climb down off your high horse now.
DDW, are you always this pleasant when introducing yourself?
Re LBT: First thought, whatever. You obviously want to fight. I obviously don’t.
And I would rather have a war capybara.
Quotes, what are those?
I had a similar conversation with a friend about “home brand” groceries. She thought they should be banned because they are usually much cheaper and come from overseas. The intent was that by forcing people to buy Australian products, then that would help Australian farmers and create jobs here etc. She hadn’t considered that people buy cheap home brand stuff because that is what they can afford.
At least food deserts don’t seem to be the same problem here as in the US (http://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2009/jul/08_0163.htm) and (as far as I know) govt payments are cash.
@Kiwi, I am not introducing myself. I was making an observation on the poster. Circle the wagons, there is an interloper. Again, shrug.
Hmm.. new(?) troll.