Meet Sasha. Sasha is an angry young man living in England (allegedly), with a super-HAWT girlfriend (allegedly), and a lot of opinions about feminism (not-so-allegedly). The other day, he decided to share some of these opinions with the world. Or at least with any of those feminists who happened to be reading the Men’s Rights subreddit at the time.
In a topic devoted to a conference on “lad culture” in British universities, Sasha lashed out at feminists for what he sees as their hypocritical attack on boorish, sexist “lads.” Hypocritical, you see, because these very same women allegedly have sex with posh men all the bloody time:
You don’t like ‘lad culture’? My dear, I don’t give a fuck what you do and don’t like. … The hypocrisy is staggering – you’ll be dropping your knickers in a flash if a dashing Etonian invited you to the Bullingdon, but God forbid some working class fella gets a bit tipsy and sings a rugby song.
Naturally, he dismissed women’s accounts of harassment as stuff and nonsense:
You’ve been threatened with rape by fellow students ‘to loosen you up’? have you fuck, you lying toe tag. If you’re going to make shit up try to make it less fantastical why don’t you.
So in short my dear, fuck you and fuck the high horse you rode in on.
In a series of followup comments so angry that some of them were actually downvoted to zero by the Men’s Rights crowd — I know, right! — Sasha pranced about on his own high horse spewing misogynistic nonsense. First, he demanded that feminists take on the very serious gold-digging whore problem:
[A]re women inclined to be gold-digging whores? Unfortunately, there’s a good case for saying you are. I wouldn’t paint all of you with such a broad brush, but let’s put it simply: feminists – you’ve got to own this shit. There are many, many negative aspects of femininity, and you’ve got enough shit of your own to address before you start pointing fingers at anyone else.
Then he proclaimed feminists to be the equivalent of the racist English Defense League and the Klan.
You’re a bigot. You don’t understand that you’re a bigot, because like the EDL or the KKK you think that your status as a ‘persecuted group’ gives you the right to behave as vilely as possible. However be in no doubt as the depth of my utter disgust for you as a human being and for your ideology.
Oh, we be in no doubt.
You are a supporter of an ideology of hate. You are a feminist. You are, by definition, a fascistic narcissist who trades in lies, deceit and hatred. I will fight you until my dying breath and society would be better without you. That clear enough?
When a female Redditor pointed out that she herself had been catcalled on campus, he pulled out his trump card: his EX-MODEL GIRLFRIEND.
OK, well how do you explain the fact that my partner, who is an attractive 20-something American former fashion model attending a Northern English university, says that she has never, not once, ever, heard a single catcalling insult or ever felt threatened in any way whatsoever on her campus, or anywhere in the UK?
I faxed this comment of his to my fax girlfriend Kate Winslet, and she faxed back a message about what a lying loser she thought he was. Then we fax made out for a while until we ran out of toner.
Anyway, then Sasha yelled at his main critic for a bit:
You’re not a decent human being, you’re a feminist. You’re as vile and reprehensible as other bigots like the cunts in the Westborough Baptist Church, or Golden Dawn or the EDL or the KKK. Fuck you, fuck the family that raised you in such a cloud of ignorance and hatred, and fuck everything you stand for.
As for ‘helping men’, disparaging bigoted cunts like you is a key part of it.
Yes, that’s right. He called someone a “bigoted cunt,” without the slightest bit of self-awareness.
Then he took it a bit too far:
By the way, do you like cats? I know most feminists do. I like cats too. I’ll bet your cat thinks you’re a bigoted cunt as well.
Dude. Don’t EVEN go there.
NOTE: Thanks to Cloudiah and the AgainstMensRights subreddit for pointing me to Sasha’s oeuvre.
@Newt
Yep, let’s give the misogynist the benefit of the doubt. He’s comparing feminist to neo-nazi groups and calling all feminists cunts but, hey, he’s just a little confused.
Have you read the strapline of this blog?
Is it coincidence that in your only two comments on this thread, you felt the need to negate mine?
It’s not even basic negation, it has the air of (very petty) oneupmanship too.
I’ll take your opinions over theirs anytime, @titianblue. I’ll give extra pats to one of my cats and say they’re from you. 🙂
Hey, other people who are tired of the unexamined privilege in the health foodie movements! High-five!
If someone could point me to a peer reviewed article on this issue, I would be interested in reading one. Links to articles behind a paywall are fine.
I can’t stand when people get mad about people buying steaks or vodka with food stamps and lecture on and on about how they should be eating beans and rice and it just proves that they’re irresponsible with money and that’s why they’re poor. FFS, being trapped in poverty sucks. If someone wants a treat, let them have it. Someone who’s on welfare or struggling to support a family on a minimum wage job isn’t going to be able to budget their way out of poverty by eating ramen noodles. I dunno, it just smacks of wanting to punish people further for being poor. “You should be miserable, dammit! Only rich people deserve steak!”
Re: the OP, why do these angry ranters always claim to have super-hawt 8.5+ girlfriends? Do they expect us to believe there’s a plethora of beautiful women out there who are attracted to raging, loathsome internet ranters? Or could it be they’re just trying to establish bro cred?
He did refer to her as his “partner”, so maybe she’s in his bridge club or something.
I remember the first time I setup a food co-op. It was awesome. Most of my clients managed to cut thier food bills in half. It was a lot of work but it more than made up for our time and effort.
I get annoyed when people start judging people with vouchers or stamps if they buy the occasional luxury. Life is grim enough, without people tut-tutting because you picked up a block of chocolate for your kids.
If you think about it, the tut-tutters are operating under a framework that morally condemns poor people for having anything enjoyable in their lives. Pleasure belongs to rich people, they believe. Poor people are stealing it. What a screwed up, damaging worldview.
Agreed. The idea that poor people should never cease their suffering makes me so angry.
I had neighbors who were doing the raw pet food thing. I don’t know if they were doing it right, but I do know they had a completely untrained pitbull puppy. I used to pet sit for them, and nothing quite like taking that dog out for walks and trying to keep it from jumping on people (who just saw pitbull). When I mentioned training to them, I was the fascist tool of the man, keeping them down, man.
Hellkell,
That’s nothing but an excuse for laziness.
@Kiwi girl definitely give your kitties at extra pat from me.
@buttercup Not convinced Sasha has the temperament for bridge.
Opponent1: Pass
Sasha: Pass
Opponent 2: 1 Spade
Sasha’s partner: 2 Diamonds.
Sasha: 2 diamonds? Have you fuck, you lying toe tag!
Opponent 2: Really, you’re using rather threatening language.
Sasha: Fuck you! She’s never felt threatened in any way whatsoever on her campus, or anywhere in the UK.
Opponent 1: Now this really isn’t appropriate langauge.
Sasha: Well fuck you and fuck the high horse you rode in on.
Partner: I really don’t like to be yelled at like this.
Sasha: My dear, I don’t give a fuck what you do and don’t like. … The hypocrisy is staggering.
Opponent 1 to Sasha’s partner: Would you like to change partners?
Partner: Yes please.
Sasha: You gold-digging whore!
Turns to Opponent 1: Wait a minute – Is that a Bullingdon Club tie you’re wearing?
leatapp: Yeah. I hope that dog is OK. The laziness on their part was just a recipe for disaster that the dog would end up paying for.
I’m not convinced about that, kittehs. If you recall 2009, that was the year that Adelaide broke its own and every other capital city’s record for heatwaves – in March. (I remember it clearly because it was, of course, festival time and it was positively eerie in the city after the first week and the heat was only getting worse. All the building sites silent, very little traffic and hardly anyone sitting in our outside cafes anywhere. Shivers down the back time.)
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants
I agree with everything you said, but you mentioned buying vodka and you can’t buy liquor with food stamps.
I double-checked that before correcting you; since I already invested two minutes googling that info, I’m posting the list of what items are ineligible.
Households CANNOT use SNAP benefits to buy:
Beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes or tobacco
Any nonfood items, such as:
pet foods
soaps, paper products
household supplies
Vitamins and medicines
Food that will be eaten in the store
Hot foods
titianblue – LOL! That gives new meaning to the term “dummy”…
Brooked – yeah, I know you can’t buy liquor with food stamps, but I have often heard people claim it as hyperbole to underline how terrible poor people are. It’s like the mythical Cadillac welfare queen.
Poor puppy.
Off-topic but related: I have zero patience for people who say their pets are vegetarian. Particularly if they have cats. That’s just cruel.
Okay, you aren’t gonna like what I have to tell you, but maybe you can enlist your vet to help and avoid the worst of it yourself.
Cats have glands near their anus that produce an oily, foetid residue that some of them (especially male cats) express, particularly when they are upset or wound up. It could be that Dracarys needs to visit a groomer or a vet to have those glands expressed manually. You can do it at home but it’s not very comfortable for the cat and not AT ALL pleasant for the individual doing the expressing, because it can actually spray and it difficult to wash away (vinegar is your friend).
Try googling cat anal glands and see if what you find is helpful?
One of the advantages of my life in retirement is having the time to cook dinners from scratch. When I was working, the sked was: get home, immediately start cooking, eat dinner, immediately wash dishes, and then it was time to get ready for bed, so I could get up and catch the six a.m. bus. Didn’t have much time with husband or kids.
Yesterday, I made falafel and baba ghanoush from scratch. Tonight it’s Salisbury steak. I know exactly how hard this would be if things were only slightly different. But they are the way they are, and the fam gets home cooked meals six nights a week. Luckily food and its preparation are one of my favorite things. Or two.
Robert Ramirez – my apologies for the chav bashing. They have enough problems without being associated with the OP.
I’m old enough to remember Ronnie Reagan’s talking about a young man buying an orange and then using the change to buy a bottle of vodka with food stamps. It was at best an unsubstantiated story, many argue it was a complete fabrication, meant to show how welfare fraud was wasting the honest taxpayers’ money. It was so super racist that it’s burned into my brain, similar to those Willie Horton ads.
Not good times.
@Brooked:
I legit thought this was spam for ten seconds. Well played.
OMFG the fucking anti-vaxxers. As someone who now has deep lung tissue damage thanks to a five month case of pertussis, people who start spouting about how dangerous vaccines are make me very stabby. I’ve had some other health situations that, for a long stretch of time, made me one of those people the herd is supposed to protect, because I couldn’t risk a course of boosters no matter how I wanted one. I didn’t even know that you could “opt out” of vaccines and still be permitted to attend public schools – I remember when I was a kid, you had to have your vaccine card all up to date or you would not be permitted to enroll, let alone attend classes.
kittehs, just wash that spinach in a mixture of three parts water to one part vinegar and leave for two to three minutes before rinsing (if you want, you don’t have to) and spinning dry. Sprouts, swirl the seeds in a mixture of one tablespoon bleach to two cups of water, then rinse (this time you really should) and sprout as usual. See above, re: not so great immune system. I am very careful!
Oh god, people who lecture The Poors about their food.
I got into a big argument with someone on Slacktivist once about food deserts, stemming from a conversation about a community in California that said local fast food restaurants could no longer sell toys with meals, but could still offer them separately.
Several other commenters and I tried to explain food deserts and how people who have children or multiple jobs or children and multiple jobs or maybe they have to take the bus everywhere might not have any time, and he just kept saying that if they cared about their food they’d make the time to do it right. Every now and then he would come back to yelling at the Calis for making it slightly less convenient for him to buy his (hypothetical) kid a cheap lump of plastic with his crappy burgers.
May anti-vaxxers live in houses made of Legos.
Just the mention of Reagan puts the flames on the side of my face. What evil fucker he was.
@ Viscaria
“Off-topic but related: I have zero patience for people who say their pets are vegetarian. Particularly if they have cats. That’s just cruel.”
I was under the impression that it was really hard (like the slow food convo above, not impossible but not for everyone, cause OMG the money and effort) but not cruel unless done totally wrong.
My dog was diagnosed with severe food allergies not long after I adopted him but the store bought food was hella expensive. My vet suggested I make his food myself using this supplement: http://www.veggiepets.com/shop/vegedog-supplement.html and a recipe he gave me (it included eggs). It was way more affordable and just happened to be vegetarian. He ate it for about three years before I was making enough money (and got so freaking tired of spending 4 hours on Sunday cooking for the dog!) to buy the store bought stuff he’s on now.
Sorry for the derail, I’ll hush now.