Meet Sasha. Sasha is an angry young man living in England (allegedly), with a super-HAWT girlfriend (allegedly), and a lot of opinions about feminism (not-so-allegedly). The other day, he decided to share some of these opinions with the world. Or at least with any of those feminists who happened to be reading the Men’s Rights subreddit at the time.
In a topic devoted to a conference on “lad culture” in British universities, Sasha lashed out at feminists for what he sees as their hypocritical attack on boorish, sexist “lads.” Hypocritical, you see, because these very same women allegedly have sex with posh men all the bloody time:
You don’t like ‘lad culture’? My dear, I don’t give a fuck what you do and don’t like. … The hypocrisy is staggering – you’ll be dropping your knickers in a flash if a dashing Etonian invited you to the Bullingdon, but God forbid some working class fella gets a bit tipsy and sings a rugby song.
Naturally, he dismissed women’s accounts of harassment as stuff and nonsense:
You’ve been threatened with rape by fellow students ‘to loosen you up’? have you fuck, you lying toe tag. If you’re going to make shit up try to make it less fantastical why don’t you.
So in short my dear, fuck you and fuck the high horse you rode in on.
In a series of followup comments so angry that some of them were actually downvoted to zero by the Men’s Rights crowd — I know, right! — Sasha pranced about on his own high horse spewing misogynistic nonsense. First, he demanded that feminists take on the very serious gold-digging whore problem:
[A]re women inclined to be gold-digging whores? Unfortunately, there’s a good case for saying you are. I wouldn’t paint all of you with such a broad brush, but let’s put it simply: feminists – you’ve got to own this shit. There are many, many negative aspects of femininity, and you’ve got enough shit of your own to address before you start pointing fingers at anyone else.
Then he proclaimed feminists to be the equivalent of the racist English Defense League and the Klan.
You’re a bigot. You don’t understand that you’re a bigot, because like the EDL or the KKK you think that your status as a ‘persecuted group’ gives you the right to behave as vilely as possible. However be in no doubt as the depth of my utter disgust for you as a human being and for your ideology.
Oh, we be in no doubt.
You are a supporter of an ideology of hate. You are a feminist. You are, by definition, a fascistic narcissist who trades in lies, deceit and hatred. I will fight you until my dying breath and society would be better without you. That clear enough?
When a female Redditor pointed out that she herself had been catcalled on campus, he pulled out his trump card: his EX-MODEL GIRLFRIEND.
OK, well how do you explain the fact that my partner, who is an attractive 20-something American former fashion model attending a Northern English university, says that she has never, not once, ever, heard a single catcalling insult or ever felt threatened in any way whatsoever on her campus, or anywhere in the UK?
I faxed this comment of his to my fax girlfriend Kate Winslet, and she faxed back a message about what a lying loser she thought he was. Then we fax made out for a while until we ran out of toner.
Anyway, then Sasha yelled at his main critic for a bit:
You’re not a decent human being, you’re a feminist. You’re as vile and reprehensible as other bigots like the cunts in the Westborough Baptist Church, or Golden Dawn or the EDL or the KKK. Fuck you, fuck the family that raised you in such a cloud of ignorance and hatred, and fuck everything you stand for.
As for ‘helping men’, disparaging bigoted cunts like you is a key part of it.
Yes, that’s right. He called someone a “bigoted cunt,” without the slightest bit of self-awareness.
Then he took it a bit too far:
By the way, do you like cats? I know most feminists do. I like cats too. I’ll bet your cat thinks you’re a bigoted cunt as well.
Dude. Don’t EVEN go there.
NOTE: Thanks to Cloudiah and the AgainstMensRights subreddit for pointing me to Sasha’s oeuvre.
Biscuit is a champion farter, and it’s usually when his butt is near your face.
What does she eat? Could be food related. Too much grain isn’t good for their digestive systems.
RE: cassandrakitty
“Lentils!” was a Jezebel meme for a while, in honor of the smug assholes who always jump into any discussion about poverty and food deserts to suggest that if poor people would only learn to cook lentils all their food-related woes would be solved.
Uuuuurrrgh, those asshats. Pretty much any smug cocksore who wants to tell poor people how their poverty could be cured with [insert hipster bohemian behavior here] gets my guff up.
Remember when Alice Waters said that poor black people (she was very specific about the race part of this) should buy organic grapes “instead of expensive sneakers” and that would take care of the whole food desert thing? There’s something about the politics of food that really brings out people’s inner ignorant asshole.
Alice Waters can shut up. I find aspects of the slow food movement incredibly insufferable and dripping with unexamined privilege.
RE: cassandrakitty
I figure because it meshes with fucked up ideas about health and beauty. That and people have never seen what an actual food dessert is like.
I love her food, but her attitude leaves a lot to be desired.
I saw another example (not food related) in the Guardian on an article about gentrification in Oakland. Tech dude scolding poor people who’re being evicted for being dumb to have rented instead of just buying a house. Because that’s totally something everyone can afford to do in the Bay Area, right?
Oh, I know this all too well.
My mom and her ex-boyfriend – when they were together – were devoted to raw veganism, the vegan ideology defined by its opposition to cooking anything. In my experience with raw veganists, they have extreme disdain for anything cooked, asserting that cooking food is the same as literally killing it. Cooking is an intrinsic evil committed against food.
Several years ago my mom and her then-boyfriend hosted these “raw food cafes” at our then-current house in Boulder. They had pretty good raw chocolate and other raw sweets, but when my brother and I dared to order a pizza and take it downstairs to the basement (the cafe was situated upstairs) my mom’s then-boyfriend would fucking freak out and tell us that we’re ruining everything. On other occasions I would walk into the kitchen to make a PB&J while my mom’s then-boyfriend was preparing a raw dish and he would literally tell me to keep my “cooked hands” i.e. hands that have touched cooked food out of the kitchen.
Oh, and to top it off, almost all of these raw veganists are anti-vaxxer new age folks.
Oh the lentil people. They always have some anecdote about being “poor” in college and managing to eat healthy. They can never grasp that being temporarily broke and having the socioeconomic status of poor are two separate things.
These people probably had cookware bought for them by their parents. They probably live in a neighborhood that isn’t a food desert. They probably aren’t working three minimum wage jobs or raising children alone.
Lentil people think they are liberals but when it comes to food and diet issues they have the right wing bootstraps mentality. It makes me so mad.
Sorry, I realize that this discussion is specifically about the role of racism and class oppression in fueling shitty attitudes towards food, but that thing came to mind anyway.
@ Ally
It’s crank magnetism again! Want to hear something even funnier? There’s a crossover between the anti-vax and raw vegan movement for people and the raw diet only movement for cats. Now, I have nothing against a raw diet for cats, it’s actually healthy as long as people do it right, but the weird thing is that you’ll run across people who’re into that who’re also anti-vax for their kids AND anti-vax for their cats, AND the ones who’re breeders will sometimes refuse to adopt out their cats to families where the kids have been vaccinated.
Oh dear, it’s everywhere now it seems. X_X
Another thing I don’t like about raw veganism is its biological essentialism. If you think new age gender essentialist narratives about “mother earth” are annoying, wait until you hear that shit from a raw veganist.
I think the only thing I like about raw veganism is that raw brownies and raw ice cream are surprisingly delicious.
WWTH – oh gods yes, I’ve had several kitties who did the Farts of Death. Mamie didn’t just fart, she blarted – and I’m not going into any more detail than “clothes, in wash, immediately”. Fribs does the Cloud of Death that moves through the house at light speed.
It’s just weird because the Dracy-beast only farts when she’s running around. She also drools when she sits on my lap. She’s just a strange kitty I guess.
@LBT It’s Robert Ramirez not Robert Rodriguez, I can understand your confusion since all of us Hispanics look the same. I don’t direct B-movies.
And I stand by my statement, I think his rage is being misdirected because he keeps bringing up class issues. Much of the criticism directed at “Lad culture” is the same sort of class criticism that is directed at “Chav” culture, it is as the two terms have become interchangable. Hell even I get pissed when I see any criticisms of the “Chavs” coming from any circle.
He is pissed at class criticism but choose the wrong target. Many MRA’s do this, they are pissed at the patriarchy but just aren’t aware enough of know that it isn’t women or feminist oppressing them but they are being oppressed as a class not men.
It’s the excitement of running around that stirs things up! Some of mine have the habit of running around like they’re training for the Melbourne Cup when they need to use the litter. We say they’ve got rocket fuel, as in having a solid fuel dump.
Mamie was a world-class dribbler. I’d swear she had some Labrador in her background. She squirted fore and aft. Darling girl but really bad for the clothes!
Don’t eat the yellow snow, where the huskies go!
Re raw food, there was a huge outbreak of Ecoli poisoning in Europe traced back to bean sprouts (mungbeans?). At least if it’s cooked, there’s some chance that the bacteria have been killed.
And then there was the ecoli in spinach outbreak here a few years ago. I don’t really like cooked spinach…
::looks apprehensively at bag of spinach in fridge::
Eat it the Chinese way, barely tossed in a hot pan with garlic and soy sauce? At least that way it doesn’t turn into spinach mush.
Nah, I just have my spinach in sammiches, it’s not getting cooked.
I misread the name as “Alice Walker”, which made this sentence, for a brief moment, genuinely shocking to me.
@weirwoodtreehugger
My response to those college students would be that I’ve never been to a college town or neighborhood that didn’t have plenty of readily available fresh produce and healthy food choices, and most poor areas have none. Often poor people don’t even have easy access to a decent grocery store.
The whole slow-food business tends to assume people have the time (never mind the skills, resources etc) for mucking round in the kitchen, doesn’t it?
Also a kitchen with an oven, multiple hobs, a great variety of pots, pans, knives, and assorted kitchen implements, culinary interest and skills, and a nearby farmers market.
So, you know, totally an option that everyone should avail themselves of.
I once looked at at apartment in Covent Garden that had nothing in the kitchen other than a mini fridge and a microwave. Try making slow food if you live there.