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British Men’s Rightser to feminists: I will fight you until my dying breath! And so will my totally real ex-model girlfriend.

Sasha's eloquent words, immortalized in ugly MRA poster form by Cloudiah of Artistry for Feminism. And Kittens.
Sasha’s eloquent words, immortalized in ugly MRA poster form by Cloudiah of Artistry for Feminism. And Kittens.

Meet Sasha. Sasha is an angry young man living in England (allegedly), with a super-HAWT girlfriend (allegedly), and a lot of opinions about feminism (not-so-allegedly). The other day, he decided to share some of these opinions with the world. Or at least with any of those feminists who happened to be reading the Men’s Rights subreddit at the time.

In a topic devoted to a conference on “lad culture” in British universities, Sasha lashed out at feminists for what he sees as their hypocritical attack on boorish, sexist “lads.” Hypocritical, you see, because these very same women allegedly have sex with posh men all the bloody time:

You don’t like ‘lad culture’? My dear, I don’t give a fuck what you do and don’t like. …  The hypocrisy is staggering – you’ll be dropping your knickers in a flash if a dashing Etonian invited you to the Bullingdon, but God forbid some working class fella gets a bit tipsy and sings a rugby song.

Naturally, he dismissed women’s accounts of harassment as stuff and nonsense:

You’ve been threatened with rape by fellow students ‘to loosen you up’? have you fuck, you lying toe tag. If you’re going to make shit up try to make it less fantastical why don’t you.

So in short my dear, fuck you and fuck the high horse you rode in on.

In a series of followup comments so angry that some of them were actually downvoted to zero by the Men’s Rights crowd — I know, right! — Sasha pranced about on his own high horse spewing misogynistic nonsense. First, he demanded that feminists take on the very serious gold-digging whore problem:

[A]re women inclined to be gold-digging whores? Unfortunately, there’s a good case for saying you are. I wouldn’t paint all of you with such a broad brush, but let’s put it simply: feminists – you’ve got to own this shit. There are many, many negative aspects of femininity, and you’ve got enough shit of your own to address before you start pointing fingers at anyone else.

Then he proclaimed feminists to be the equivalent of the racist English Defense League and the Klan.

You’re a bigot. You don’t understand that you’re a bigot, because like the EDL or the KKK you think that your status as a ‘persecuted group’ gives you the right to behave as vilely as possible. However be in no doubt as the depth of my utter disgust for you as a human being and for your ideology.

Oh, we be in no doubt.

You are a supporter of an ideology of hate. You are a feminist. You are, by definition, a fascistic narcissist who trades in lies, deceit and hatred. I will fight you until my dying breath and society would be better without you. That clear enough?

When a female Redditor pointed out that she herself had been catcalled on campus, he pulled out his trump card: his EX-MODEL GIRLFRIEND.

OK, well how do you explain the fact that my partner, who is an attractive 20-something American former fashion model attending a Northern English university, says that she has never, not once, ever, heard a single catcalling insult or ever felt threatened in any way whatsoever on her campus, or anywhere in the UK?

I faxed this comment of his to my fax girlfriend Kate Winslet, and she faxed back a message about what a lying loser she thought he was. Then we fax made out for a while until we ran out of toner.

Anyway, then Sasha yelled at his main critic for a bit:

You’re not a decent human being, you’re a feminist. You’re as vile and reprehensible as other bigots like the cunts in the Westborough Baptist Church, or Golden Dawn or the EDL or the KKK. Fuck you, fuck the family that raised you in such a cloud of ignorance and hatred, and fuck everything you stand for.

As for ‘helping men’, disparaging bigoted cunts like you is a key part of it.

Yes, that’s right. He called someone a “bigoted cunt,” without the slightest bit of self-awareness.

Then he took it a bit too far:

By the way, do you like cats? I know most feminists do. I like cats too. I’ll bet your cat thinks you’re a bigoted cunt as well.

Dude. Don’t EVEN go there.

NOTE: Thanks to Cloudiah and the AgainstMensRights subreddit for pointing me to Sasha’s oeuvre.

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DDW
DDW
10 years ago

@sparky perhaps, but again, shrug. I don’t really care. If there is a comment that appears to be a potentially legitimate question I will respond. I can’t help anyone’s intentions.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
10 years ago

Isn’t it awful when people expect you to know where you are and who you are talking to? Dreadful.

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
10 years ago

I would rather talk about degenerate triangles. I think I should commission a drawing of one.

cloudiah
10 years ago

This is officially the silliest example of nitpicking I’ve ever seen on this blog.

Seriously, who knew that my spur of the moment decision to introduce a typo such as I’ve seen on dozens of MRA graphics would spur such a long discussion. The funny thing is, I was actually kicking myself because I left one “you’re” in there without converting it to “your.”

I also introduced incorrect capitalization.

I am sorry that with these simple missteps, I have ruined feminism forever.

Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

>.> well this thread got awful angry awful fast.

It looks like Cloudiah made a stylistic choice that you wouldn’t have made yourself, DDW. I’m pretty sure that’s okay?

This:

Hm… checks pants. I am not a dude.

is cissexist, so please watch that.

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
10 years ago

@cloudiah, how dare you take artistic licence with your art!

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Yes you have Cloudiah. Or was that your intention all along? Are you perchance an MRA mole pulling a long con?
You win. We give up. Feminism is dead.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

For shame, cloudiah. Next time some guy catcalls me because he has no respect for women I’m holding you responsible.

opheliamonarch
10 years ago

http://youtu.be/acV5wWr0Nq0

::soothing tones:: Is that better DDW? Bad day? (Rhetorical.)

And Cloudiah, you are fabulous and so was the poster.

Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

The poster is great! I particularly liked the treasure trolls, because treasure trolls.

DDW
DDW
10 years ago

“It looks like Cloudiah made a stylistic choice that you wouldn’t have made yourself, DDW. I’m pretty sure that’s okay?”

Obviously, and I explained how an outside took it. It looks like Cloudiah made a stylistic choice that you wouldn’t have made yourself, DDW. I’m pretty sure that’s okay?


is cissexist, so please watch that.”

Oh Lord have mercy. Checks brain… yep, female there too.

DDW
DDW
10 years ago

Eek horrid formatting.

cloudiah
10 years ago

No, no, Viscaria — don’t make excuses for me. By hastily creating a graphic to paste into the comment section of an earlier post, just to make my fellow manboobzers laugh, I have permanently undermined the cause of gender equality. You must banish me to Reddit Island, with its poor sanitation and libertarian politics.

The only person I blame more than me, is David. He featured my poster in his post. Clearly, he was an MRA all along, just waiting for one of us to make a fatal error, and I played right into his hands.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

The troll dolls…does anyone remember why people liked those?

kittehserf
10 years ago

I never said acceptance by MRAs, I said credibility and access to those who aren’t in the inner circle of knowing the minutae.

Well duh, maybe we don’t actually give a shit? This isn’t an outreach blog, for fuck’s sake. We’re mocking them. If people are too lazy/stupid/pompous/don’t actually give a shit about feminism to the point where a parody poster’s grammar puts them off, then that’s their bad luck. If they know zip about the MRM and want to find out, they can (gasp) read the FAQ section, or (second gasp) read various posts.

Then maybe they won’t come in and shovel both feet in their mouths.

Why don’t you go hang out at Feministe? Though come to think of it you might be a bit too po-faced even for there.

cloudiah
10 years ago

Shit! weirwoodtreehugger is onto me!

Yes, it was a long con!!! I’M ACTUALLY A MRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND I AM DAVID!!!!

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
10 years ago

@cassandra: they make cool earrings (little dolls). Otherwise no idea, just like I don’t understand how anyone liked/wanted Cabbage Patch kids.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I was exactly the right age for Cabbage Patch dolls but didn’t understand those either.

Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

“You’re” vs “your” gets a you’re ruining feminism forever but “please don’t equate genitals with gender” gets an Lord have mercy. Okay, I’m not going to talk to you anymore.

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
10 years ago

Is this the point we all stand up and say “I am David”?

kittehserf
10 years ago

Yes you have Cloudiah. Or was that your intention all along? Are you perchance an MRA mole pulling a long con?
You win. We give up. Feminism is dead.

The secret is out! The person we thought of as cloudiah is revealed to be Claud Diah, famous MRA artist and master of the mysteries of MS Paint!*

*see also his long-running campaign to have Ms Paint renamed Mr Paint, because misandry.

gillyrosebee
10 years ago

Shit! weirwoodtreehugger is onto me! Yes, it was a long con!!! I’M ACTUALLY A MRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I AM DAVID!!!!

BOOBZCEPTION!

kittehserf
10 years ago

You’re not David! I’m David and so is my wife!

… wait

Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

I loved those troll dolls, but I was 3, so I can’t quite remember what the appeal was.

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
10 years ago

I think there was a cartoon tie-in or something, not sure which came first, dolls or media.

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