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British Men’s Rightser to feminists: I will fight you until my dying breath! And so will my totally real ex-model girlfriend.

Sasha's eloquent words, immortalized in ugly MRA poster form by Cloudiah of Artistry for Feminism. And Kittens.
Sasha’s eloquent words, immortalized in ugly MRA poster form by Cloudiah of Artistry for Feminism. And Kittens.

Meet Sasha. Sasha is an angry young man living in England (allegedly), with a super-HAWT girlfriend (allegedly), and a lot of opinions about feminism (not-so-allegedly). The other day, he decided to share some of these opinions with the world. Or at least with any of those feminists who happened to be reading the Men’s Rights subreddit at the time.

In a topic devoted to a conference on “lad culture” in British universities, Sasha lashed out at feminists for what he sees as their hypocritical attack on boorish, sexist “lads.” Hypocritical, you see, because these very same women allegedly have sex with posh men all the bloody time:

You don’t like ‘lad culture’? My dear, I don’t give a fuck what you do and don’t like. …  The hypocrisy is staggering – you’ll be dropping your knickers in a flash if a dashing Etonian invited you to the Bullingdon, but God forbid some working class fella gets a bit tipsy and sings a rugby song.

Naturally, he dismissed women’s accounts of harassment as stuff and nonsense:

You’ve been threatened with rape by fellow students ‘to loosen you up’? have you fuck, you lying toe tag. If you’re going to make shit up try to make it less fantastical why don’t you.

So in short my dear, fuck you and fuck the high horse you rode in on.

In a series of followup comments so angry that some of them were actually downvoted to zero by the Men’s Rights crowd — I know, right! — Sasha pranced about on his own high horse spewing misogynistic nonsense. First, he demanded that feminists take on the very serious gold-digging whore problem:

[A]re women inclined to be gold-digging whores? Unfortunately, there’s a good case for saying you are. I wouldn’t paint all of you with such a broad brush, but let’s put it simply: feminists – you’ve got to own this shit. There are many, many negative aspects of femininity, and you’ve got enough shit of your own to address before you start pointing fingers at anyone else.

Then he proclaimed feminists to be the equivalent of the racist English Defense League and the Klan.

You’re a bigot. You don’t understand that you’re a bigot, because like the EDL or the KKK you think that your status as a ‘persecuted group’ gives you the right to behave as vilely as possible. However be in no doubt as the depth of my utter disgust for you as a human being and for your ideology.

Oh, we be in no doubt.

You are a supporter of an ideology of hate. You are a feminist. You are, by definition, a fascistic narcissist who trades in lies, deceit and hatred. I will fight you until my dying breath and society would be better without you. That clear enough?

When a female Redditor pointed out that she herself had been catcalled on campus, he pulled out his trump card: his EX-MODEL GIRLFRIEND.

OK, well how do you explain the fact that my partner, who is an attractive 20-something American former fashion model attending a Northern English university, says that she has never, not once, ever, heard a single catcalling insult or ever felt threatened in any way whatsoever on her campus, or anywhere in the UK?

I faxed this comment of his to my fax girlfriend Kate Winslet, and she faxed back a message about what a lying loser she thought he was. Then we fax made out for a while until we ran out of toner.

Anyway, then Sasha yelled at his main critic for a bit:

You’re not a decent human being, you’re a feminist. You’re as vile and reprehensible as other bigots like the cunts in the Westborough Baptist Church, or Golden Dawn or the EDL or the KKK. Fuck you, fuck the family that raised you in such a cloud of ignorance and hatred, and fuck everything you stand for.

As for ‘helping men’, disparaging bigoted cunts like you is a key part of it.

Yes, that’s right. He called someone a “bigoted cunt,” without the slightest bit of self-awareness.

Then he took it a bit too far:

By the way, do you like cats? I know most feminists do. I like cats too. I’ll bet your cat thinks you’re a bigoted cunt as well.

Dude. Don’t EVEN go there.

NOTE: Thanks to Cloudiah and the AgainstMensRights subreddit for pointing me to Sasha’s oeuvre.

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titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

because like the EDL or the KKK you think that your status as a ‘persecuted group’ gives you the right to behave as vilely as possible.

The KKK and EDL are “persecuted groups”? Really? Since when?

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

I will fight you until my dying breath

Or at least until my broadband provider pulls the plug on me …

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

[A]re women inclined to be gold-digging whores? Unfortunately, there’s a good case for saying you are.

Are we sure Sasha isn’t Tom Martin? Does he mention penguins or hard chairs at all?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

My cat has very strong opinions on feminists. Of course, why wouldn’t she?

(Currently, she feels that feminists should stop pissing around on the internet and go make her breakfast.)

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

Well, someone’s awful cranky. I think it’s nap-time.

AK
AK
10 years ago

I like that he mentions that his girlfriend is American. I feel like it’s to give him an out if he ever meets up with someone in his area. “Sorry, my super-hot model girlfriend is in the States visiting family right now! She won’t be back for awhile but she totally exists guys!”

freemage
10 years ago

Wow, that’s some serious ew.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
10 years ago

Then we fax made out for a while until we ran out of toner.

My co-workers just demanded that I explain why I suddenly laughed so hard I started snorting. I’ve already introduced them to the world of MRAs, so I just had to say, “Manboobz.”

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

You are a feminist. You are, by definition, a fascistic narcissist who trades in lies, deceit and hatred.

What dictionary is Sasha using? That’s certainly not the definition of @”feminist” in the OED.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

you’ll be dropping your knickers in a flash if a dashing Etonian invited you to the Bullingdon, but God forbid some working class fella gets a bit tipsy and sings a rugby song.

For those of you who are not British, the Bullingdon is an Oxford University “invitation only” members’ dining & drinking club. The drinking part being the main thing. Sasha appears unaware that it is men only. Feminists do not get invited, even by dashing Etonians.

The idea that misogyny should be accepted because it’s a working class tradition – not a new one. the Sun tries to pull that one over page 3 on a regular basis.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
10 years ago

As for ‘helping men’, disparaging bigoted cunts like you is a key part of it.

And there we have it, folks! Who needs to advocate for shelters for men, or work to end rape of men, or anything hard like that. Yelling at feminists on the internet totally counts as activism for MRAs because it is a “key part” of helping men!

emilybites
emilybites
10 years ago

As far as insults go, ‘I bet your cat thinks you’re a c*nt as well’ is pretty damn low.

That was way harsh, dude.

Robert Ramirez
10 years ago

I think his anger is being misdirected. I hear a undertone of anger at the rampant Classism that is the U.K in his rant. It is easier to rant at the straw-women feminist that haunt his fantasies rather than actually doing something about Classism. He feel powerless against Classism and his rant against imaginary feminist makes him feel powerful.

Andrew Johnston
10 years ago

You know what the problem with that parody poster is? It’s way too high quality to be an actual MRA poster. Yes, it’s ugly, but it’s also at an appropriate DPI with no compression artifacts or signs of haphazard format conversion. And look at those images! No thumbnails that have been blown up until you can count the pixels? No pics with their dimensions skewed into weird alien shapes in an ill-advised attempt to force them to fit the format? No hideous filters used to disguise the fact that you’ve used each image a dozen times already? And on top of all that, the text contrasts with the background that you can actually read what it says. I’m looking at an image that clearly took more than ten minutes to compose, and that simply can not be.

Cloudiah, if you ever put another one together, try using MSPaint – give it that “I don’t care enough to use actual tools” look.

leftwingfox
10 years ago

Has you ever been so far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Dammit, my brain tripped over this and sprained something.

Xen
Xen
10 years ago

“I will fight them until my dying breath!” have fun with your life. Sounds exiting.

leatapp
leatapp
10 years ago

Well, Robert Ramirez, it takes courage to punch up. Of course this dude is going to punch down instead.

Ally S
10 years ago

You don’t like ‘lad culture’? My dear, I don’t give a fuck what you do and don’t like. … The hypocrisy is staggering – you’ll be dropping your knickers in a flash if a dashing Etonian invited you to the Bullingdon, but God forbid some working class fella gets a bit tipsy and sings a rugby song.

Ah, comparing a woman having consensual sex to someone singing a misogynistic, bigoted song. That’s telling. He calls it a rugby song, but having seen his other comments I think it just serves to downplay the harms of lad culture. Shasha’s misogyny here is literally out in the open here.

Ally S
10 years ago

Also LOL cloudiah’s poster is fantastic.

entropistanon
10 years ago

“[A]re women inclined to be gold-digging whores? Unfortunately, there’s a good case for saying you are.”

So? If a woman defines attractiveness by how much money a guy has, that’s her prerogative. People are allowed to define the perimeters of their romantic interactions and relationships. This is yet another rant on how women have choices in who their sexual partners are, and the ranter wants to make them feel bad that they’re not giving their sex out more according to the ranter’s class.

“OK, well how do you explain the fact that my partner, who is an attractive 20-something American former fashion model attending a Northern English university, says that she has never, not once, ever, heard a single catcalling insult or ever felt threatened in any way whatsoever on her campus, or anywhere in the UK?”

Well, I’ve never been shot before, so clearly guns don’t even exist. It is entirely possible that your super hot girlfriend has never been catcalled before, and other women have. You’re assuming that there’s a direct relationship between the catcalls people get and their level of attractiveness, which is a rather naive way to look at this issue…

Then again, I don’t expect anything but naivete from MRAs these days.

opium4themasses
opium4themasses
10 years ago

Wow. I can almost feel the spittle flying off his rant.

I just don’t understand where the idea of bigotry even comes from. I agree with Robert that this guy is displacing some oppression he feels from elsewhere.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
10 years ago

Is he really 16?!

Ally S
10 years ago

The more I analyze the shit this kid is saying, the more convinced I am that he’s 16.

Lady Mondegreen
Lady Mondegreen
10 years ago

this guy is displacing some oppression he feels from elsewhere

Possible. It’s also possible that he’s just a thin-skinned jackass reacting to criticism of his own bigotry with a temper tantrum.

Lady Mondegreen
Lady Mondegreen
10 years ago

Come to think of it I guess the two possibilities aren’t mutually exclusive.

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