How stupid do you have to be to actually believe the following nonsense? Not just regular stupid. Men’s Rights stupid.
Heck, this is even stupid by normal Men’s Rights standards. It made me think of this line from Ruthless People.
Now, horqth could very well be a troll. His account is brand new, and, I mean, this is just amazingly dumb. But here’s the thing: his comments are being treated as if they are completely reasonable by the Men’s Rights subreddit. I noticed only a couple of mostly ignored comments out of more than 100 even raising the possiblity that he was a troll.
Not only has his post gotten dozens of upvotes, but in the comments there are numerous other Men’s Rights Redditors — not trolls — who’ve actually managed to outdo him in the sheer ridiculousness of their opinions. And they’re getting upvotes too.
Milessycamore seemed to suggest that horqth had understated the degree to which men were being victimized in both places, and more than 200 Redditors agreed:
Saxonjf thought it would be nice if more women would act like these strippers and make men feel “important special.”
Itchybrain, putting his economist hat on, suggested that the root of the problem was the massive over-valuation of women:
So how did the ladies get so overvalued in the first place? Blame the government and all that darn welfare. Responding to one contrarian Men’s Righster who suggested — get this! — that women are appropriately valued — FloranHunter laid down this truth bomb, by which I mean a bunch of complete and utter crap:
If only we could return to the good old days, when women would starve unless they were super nice to unattractive dudes who pestered them in bars!
Lawtonfogle also has no problem with the idea of men being valued for their money; he just wants to get more bang(s) for the buck.
![Lawtonfogle 10 points 1 day ago (12|2) Government intervention in the means of social support programs that result in a woman having far more bargaining power in relationship dynamics. If it weren't for laws that provided support for children and forced fathers to pay for children (even when they aren't the biological father), it would be a very different issue. Men would still be valued for their money and women for their attractiveness, but money would hold more value and being a male willing to commit would also hold (more) value. permalink source parent save give gold hide child comments [–]IOIOOIIOIO 5 points 23 hours ago (7|2) Effective male contraception is going to be amazing.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/lawton.png?ssl=1)
I give up.
@gillyrosebee Thank you very much for taking the time to write what you did; reading it really helped clarify things for me.
I apologize for anything I wrote that was offensive.
Our dress code at work is pretty much “be dressed, please.”
Oooooh, perfume. My other favorite thing behind makeup. I have some that won’t wear to work, like Nassomatto Duro, which is only suitable for scaring the bejeezus out of people and/or sacking a small country. I generally wear CdG Wonderwood or Kiehl’s Original Musk, both of which go on light enough for work.
That’s pretty much our dress code, too. The guys wear the uniform polo by choice (dull Prussian blue, ugh ugh ugh). I wear whatever I fancy.
One of these days I’ll just throw in the towel and get a big neck or hand tattoo. Then whatever else I wear to interviews will hardly matter.
NO NECK TATTOOS. And I say that as a tattooed person.
But horrifying people is the point.
It’s not even horrifying, it’s just a bad idea. I’ve never seen one that looked decent (obviously not your point, but still). I have seen some lovely hand work though.
I’ve seen really small, delicate ones on the side of the neck look OK, but ones that go across the front of the throat? Nope.
I’m too fickle for a tattoo, though I have always wanted to get one (I keep thinking of getting something on my wrists). My problem is that as soon as the work was done I’d feel deflated and be 100% sure that no matter how much I loved it at first, now I want a different one.
@gillyrose
Thank you for eloquent explanation of Graident Lair’s policies, which was much better than my earlier cranky one.
@Brooked, I get splainey when I’m cranky (and tired), so it’s usually a struggle to stop myself, but you’re welcome!
I don’t like neck tattoos because I seldom see them on anyone but blokes who’re doing the full-on feral/bogan look, which I really dislike. But at any rate, think what a neck tattoo would look like if one ended up with turkey neck in old age … nope, nope, nope.
I’ve seen some good neck tattoos, of loved ones names and the like. But yes, they are tricky and a lot of artists refuse to do them on principle.
Speaking of which, me and Sneak got tattooed a week or two ago! It’s a cuff around our upper arm, and we’re getting a similar one on the other arm done in another week or so. Woo!
Oh, and as a side note, getting it done taught me that Sneak has a much lower pain tolerance than me. Which is sad, because zie was miserable throughout the whole tattooing procedure, but also means zie is high unlikely to ask me about getting triangles tattooed on the backs of our hands again.
Ooh ooh share share share!
OW back of the hands would hurt like hell.
Are you all wrapped up in clingwrap now? Smothered in Bepanthen and reeking of it? (Ah, memories.)
I’m almost into year 5 of a tattoo removal (home job overtattooed by a professional). There was just *soooooooooooo* much ink. And it’s been painful each time – like having someone cut into my skin with a knife. And the blistering.
Depending on what it looks like later, I will get the area fixed up by another tattoo. A professional one.
Ouch. I’ve sometimes wondered if I should get rid of my second tattoo – it’s only a few centimetres square – but that makes me think, nope, bad luck if it’s not that good!
This one is over an entire shoulderblade. I’ve hated it ever since I got it, back in 1990.
Yow! That’s a lot of tattoo to get rid of, and what a painful place.