So I found this lovely little shoutout in the comments to an inane post by W.F. Price on The Spearhead last week.
Let me just preface it with a big TRIGGER WARNING for its violent rape fantasy.
Ten upvotes. No downvotes.
I guess that’s technically a rape metaphor, but it’s the most graphic rape metaphor I’ve run across in a long time.
If you ever find yourself wondering why the so-called Men’s Rights movement has never done, as far as I can tell, a single fucking thing for male victims of rape — other than rant about it online in an attempt to one-up feminists — I think this comment suggests one highly plausible explanation: because many if not most MRAs don’t actually feel empathy for the vast majority of male rape victims, who are, after all, men in prison raped by other men. They see rape as an appropriate punishment for men they don’t like, and many actually relish the thought of certain men being raped.
Indeed, even the self-described “men’s human rights activists” at A Voice for Men think that rape jokes about men they don’t like are hilarious.
I mean, it goes without saying that MRAs generally have little or no empathy for women who are raped, and indulge in rape jokes about women all the fucking time, but you’d think they’d do a better job of at least pretending to care about raped men.
If you’re interested in an organization that actually does care about victims of rape and other forms of sexual abuse in prison — regardless of the gender of the victim — you may want to check out Just Detention International.
LBT, sounds about right. I hadn’t figured in the last reversal.
That kitty shaking hands looks like Miss Rochelle. 🙂
No problem, Michael. I wouldn’t be surprised if it varies from county to country either!
Most of the folks I know who are getting older are getting a tad more sensible, and therefore more liberal as they age (here in the US, btw). And the folks I know who were always conservative are just getting more hysterical and paranoid.
I think the conventional wisdom (an oxymoron if ever there was one) is based on the easily debunked notion that each generation is somehow wilder and more “advanced” and less conservative/responsible/”decent” than the last, when from a historical viewpoint you can see societies swing back and forth from conservative to liberal, depending. Examples: 1920s US were wild and liberal compared to the 1930s, which was more conservative but still less conservative than the 1950s, and then you have the jump from the 1960s to the 1980s (insert graphic of two weed-smoking hippies shaking their heads at their Brooks Brothers Suited Offspring saying WHERE DID WE GO WRONG???).
Also, that conservative/liberal swing varies a lot by region, country, ethnic group, and of course religion.
(Note: I’m using the terms “conservative” and “liberal” less as a political stance and more as a descriptor of world view, though those things definitely overlap. But as I was typing I was thinking of a close conservative friend of mine, who is definitely more paranoid now than she was when she was younger, but who is totally down for things like marriage equality, an idea that never would have crossed her mind three decades ago. So there’s that too.)
I could have edited that entire diatribe way better. But in my defense, I’m drinking tequila.
Wait, LBT…. don’t I owe.. goddamn, it is you!
Eh?
I remember several months ago donating to you and promising more and it slipped from the grasp of my very greasy mind. Sorry.
Against my better judgement I checked out that Spearthread and, boy howdy, I was impressed by the wide variety of stupid on display. I’m weirdly fascinated by how MRAs discuss David like he’s some mystical demonic puzzle beyond mortal comprehension, rather then seeing him as a journalist and humorist they don’t like.
Yep, working for Jezebel is equivalent to supporting South Africa under Apartheid. Excellent point.
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I have to give a shout-out to this classic example of keyboard activism, where the writer hopes MM can ride a viral wave similar to the one that brought Twerking to social prominence. I’m quoting the whole post because there’s a amusing, huge lack of self-awareness through out and the stupid shit about “gangster rap” at the end shows how, without fail, MRAs are the least culturally literate people on the internet.
But if your paypal is still good, consider it done.
I’m not sure which is the more disgustingly contemptible — the comment itself, or that the only votes on it are upvotes. That such gross homophobia, approval of rape, and ableism are all prejudicial to men’s interests is plainly obvious of course, but that doesn’t seem to count as a negative on most MRA websites, if it even rates attention.
So they complain that male rape isn’t covered enough, that people ignore it, yet they want to commit it? Yeah.
Basically they sound like wannabe smalltime criminals.
I used to be somewhat conservative. What turned me into a raving socialist? The fucking MISOGYNY.
And these guys wonder why we laugh/shake our heads at them? Clueless gits.
Xanthë, of course it doesn’t. They seem to be stuck in a very toxic feedback loop.
Brooked, that long comment is hilarious. I love that he admits that MRAs don’t need to take over board rooms, academia and media.
Well no, they don’t. Those things are already mostly controlled by men. Because men aren’t an oppressed and marginalized group under the thumb of the matriarchy. Who’d have thunk it? It sort of calls into question the need for a men’s “human rights” movement.
Wait a second! Maybe the purpose of the MRM is actually the hatred of women? Could it be that? I think I might be onto something here 🙂
RE: Michael Sondberg Olsen
I remember several months ago donating to you and promising more and it slipped from the grasp of my very greasy mind. Sorry.
Oh! Haha, no worries. Oh wait, you already donated! o_o Oh my. Well, I have a writeathon going, so would you like to put that money to a story? Here are the ones I’ve got for sale right now:
The Other Princess: Margaret (from Ordinary Ever After) has settled into her new life working at the Homescross coffee shop, a sprawling crossover RP made up of hundreds of online players. Everything is going well, until there’s a mod error and another Moon Princess shows up…
One Step Ahead. Multiple system Tank has just become a member of Law and Justice, an illustrious superhero team, but someone seems to be sabotaging their career…
The Shadow Wife, a Reverend Alpert story. It’s harvest season, which means more possessed vegetable work for Alpert and Perfection, but another Gestaltist gets involved who doesn’t approve of their working arrangement.
Waiting Out The Storm, a Persona 4 fanfiction. Naoto gets rained into a Chicago coffeeshop, and gets a blast from the past, which pulls up issues that were supposed to be laid to rest.
“I’m weirdly fascinated by how MRAs discuss David like he’s some mystical demonic puzzle beyond mortal comprehension, rather then seeing him as a journalist and humorist they don’t like.”
Given their worldview & the fact that they seem to inhabit an alternate reality of their own design, he (& all feminists, the men especially) probably are beyond their comprehension. Actually, most of the time, it seems anyone with a sliver of empathy or who might even consider doing something for reasons other than personal gain is beyond there comprehension
LBT, Ordinary Ever After was all manner of awesome, btw (don’t think I said that before)
Oh, thank you Skye! I didn’t know you’d read it! Yeah, that story is the reason, “MAGICAL MOONBEAMS!” has become a saying with some of my friends.
But yes, a sequel was requested, so I’m hoping it gets sponsored!
In more depressing and horrific comments about rape news http://www.salon.com/2014/02/16/montana_county_attorney%e2%80%99s_office_allegedly_told_the_family_of_5_year_old_rape_victim_that_boys_will_be_boys/
A prosecutor in Missoula, MT told the parents of a five year old rape victim that boys will be boys. OMFG.
@WWTH
If someone is publicly conceding control of global capitalism to the Feminist Overlords, I’m assuming their tinfoil budget has gone through the roof.
I love how he argues that “calling people inferior” is something feminism does and that’s why MM will end up triumphant. Does he miss the endless discussions of women’s inferiority on the very website he’s posting on or does “people” only mean men? I’m guessing it’s the latter, mixed liberally with a gross misrepresentation of actual feminism.
@weirdwoodtreehugger
I…what the fuck?
“Boys will be boys”? That’s MRBM philosophy in a nutshell.
Getting awfully hard not to hate humanity sometimes…