Happy Valentine’s Day, gynocrats!.
Over on A Voice for Male Students, the always-reasonable and never-hysterical Jonathan Taylor celebrates this day of candies and flowers and irritating Kay Jewelry commercials with a lovely little piece entitled “The gynocentrism of Valentine’s Day, and the spoiled princess mentality.”
In it, he takes aim at a holiday he sees as rewarding the sort of woman who behaves like a “privileged princess who didn’t get her pony when she was five.”
His proof of this “gynocentrism?” The custom graphics on Google’s home page today, which I have screencapped and pasted in above.
At first glance, this all seems very innocent. We all remember these adorably crappy candies with the little messages on them. But Taylor is able to discern its insidious deeper meaning in their words:
The inclusion of the “Mr. Right” heart may seem like a small thing, but it is also rather telling, especially coming from the #1 website in the world. Women have expectations and standards. Where are men’s expectations and standards?
We aren’t told about them. Unlike “Mr. Right,” the phrase “Ms. Right” isn’t used in common parlance. The very incidence of men having standards for women is often regarded as sexist, even if they are entirely reasonable – such as not being so fat that you are diabetic by the time you are 35 and bedridden by the time you are 55.
In the age of Feminism, the only people women “answer to” are themselves.
Now that I’ve taken a closer look at Google’s message, I think that Mr. Taylor is if anything understating its creepy gynocentric intent. Take a look again at the first two candies.
CRUSH MR. RIGHT
Clearly this is an invitation to murder. Nay, to MAN GENOCIDE.
FIRST KISS 4EVER YOURS
… because if he is dead, your first kiss will make him — or at least his corpse — forever yours.
PUPPY LOVE
Of course if he is dead, he will not be able to fulfill his normal sexual functions. So Google seems to be recommending bestiality.
BLIND DATE
And then, to cover up your crimes, it suggests that you blind all of your future dates so they can’t see the corpse you’ve got stashed in the spare bedroom. (You may also need to do something about their sense of smell.)
Has the true ugliness of this gynocentric holiday ever been more nakedly displayed?
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Just in case anyone missed it, this post is almost entirely made up of
… except for the bit about Kay Jewelry ads, which really are irritating.
“Gee, I guess the idea of a gift given out of love, with no expectation of tit-for-tat, is just beyond you.”
I guess the idea of obligating someone to buy you gifts while not feeling the same obligation to that person is wrong and NOT equality. Gifts out of love are not mandated.
Neither is sex. Oops, there goes what’s left of your sorry little argument.
Now go play with yourself someplace quiet, and quit wanking here.
Neither is sex. Oops, there goes what’s left of your sorry little argument.
I don’t think so since I didn’t bring up sex. One of your pals did. My argument is totally about a one sided gynocentric celebration and how femist silence toward and even support of it shows the non-equality that modern feminism seeks.
Lol, yes, because the women these losers buy gifts for with the belief they’re owed sex TOTALLY obligate them to do so and cruelly deny them the sex they are owed afterward.
Options:
a) don’t buy gifts for women
b) don’t buy gifts for women who feel differently on the matter than you
c) buy gifts for women who share feelings on the matter with you ie: feel obligated to put out
d) only give gifts without obligation or expectation, otherwise it’s not really a gift
You have all these options while pretending you MUST be involved with a woman who OBLIGATES you to buy her shit and feels no responsibility to hold herself to the same standard. That’s a fantasy (which, perhaps, the men whinging about it are into.) No one forces anyone to do any of that. They choose to engage in relationships where those are the rules.
BTDubz, a relationship in which you are expected to buy gifts and are entitled to sex in return isn’t a relationship. It’s mutual imprisonment and immature as fuck. What are these guys, fifteen? Gift giving and having sex are things happy people engage in freely for one another’s benefit, not requirements in hopes of getting something in return.
What kind of shit sex do these guys have that women are responsible to provide them with? It’s like a woman wanting to have sex with them and doing so for mutual satisfaction is beyond their scope.
Please. It’s a patriarchal holiday to its core. Man buys his woman a gift, she repays him with her affection.
Buttercup is right on target here. Kay’s Jewelers tagline comes right out and says it, too: “Every kiss begins with Kay.”
Enjoying arguing with those straw feminists, Sam?
Citation needed.
Seriously, these guys have never had sex with someone who wanted to have sex with them. That’s the only explanation for their belief sex is a service rendered in exchange for goods.
I don’t think three sentences counts as a rant really
I thought I already clarified this earlier in the thread.
Normally, the people who whine about how unfair it is men buy gifts for women ALSO expect the women to have sex with the men for those gifts. THOSE PEOPLE.
and re: what everyone else said about how you can GIVE shit because you want to, you know, and you care about people. If you feel like it’s unfair you “have” to give someone something, then don’t fucking give it to them.
Damn, Sam is stupid. I’m in the midst of a migraine & I’ve got more neurons firing.
Yeah, ‘cos everyone always goes to AVfM to see what feminists are saying … /facepalm
WHO does this? Seriously dude?
it’s like sam thinks that women don’t have any expectations placed on them in response for the gift thing? And when people try to bring it up and point out that no, people who adhere to the “man buys gifts aways” view in hetero relations generally also adhere to “woman responds to gifts with sex” view, we’re sexist for bringing it up? What?
If AVfM isn’t a valid source for feminist perspectives, I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS.
I guess I’m a Valentine’s-supporting feminist. I dressed up and did my makeup (I don’t do either in my day-to-day life and my gentlemanfriend enjoys seeing me dolled up) we both cooked for ourselves, he played guitar for me and we enthusiastically made love a few times. OH GOD, THE MISANDRY OF IT!
He may well be misandrist as fuck but I’m not sure that necessarily is.
Ohhhhh, when a feminist MAN says it. I gotcha! My apologies. All I saw was “feminist” and didn’t get the inherent “misandrist” part. That’s my mistake, reading too fast. I beg your pardon.
Sam is it your hypothesis that women never buy gifts or do nice things for their boyfriends and husbands? The only gift giving that occurs in a man + woman relationship is the man lavishly spending on valentine’s?
What do you hypothesize happens in woman + woman relationships? Do you imagine both women expect the other to buy gifts and dinner and then they get pissed at each other for not doing it? Because all women expect diamonds and gourmet dinner on valentines day after all! Or can you not fathom the notion that there are women out there that aren’t waiting around for men to give them expensive gifts?
That sounds like a great sitcom.
@Weirwoodtreehugger
I assumed the evil gynocentric government gave women in relationships with women each their own chocolates and gourmet dinner, because it is totally a one sided gynocentric celebration XD
And because women are dependent on gubmint support because they won’t work because FEMALE PRIVILEGE.
@Weirwoodtreehugger
Yesterday at the grocery store I saw a lesbian couple shopping together. It was so cute! They were piling their cart full of Valentine’s Day chocolates and cakes and giggling.
But then I saw them at the checkout, and they were yelling at each other.
“I thought you were going to pay for it!”
“I thought YOU were!”
And then they both lay down on the floor and cried.
My husband doesn’t care for chocolates – or sweets in general. I’m thinking of hitting a store tomorrow and picking up a discounted heart shaped box of candy just for me.
He did get flowers, just so you know.
Holy shit, has anyone taken in the epic fart battle David tweeted about: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2104250/Divine-wind-Japanese-He-gassen-art-actually-form-social-commentary.html
It’s extraordinary
Apparently though there is imagery within some of these paintings of cats being farted on. I can’t get behind that.
David, I hoped you did your duty as a man in this gynocentric universe by paying for the lesbian couple’s chocolates. I suppose you must have or surely you’d be in jail by now.
Expectating sex doesn’t even register as reason men give on Valentines Day. Obligation is near the top:
http://www.acrwebsite.org/search/view-conference-proceedings.aspx?Id=7578
Oh please, pull the other one…this is you, just upthread:
YOU brought up the angle of prostitution-as-fairness. Own your shit, Scam.
@Sam Commenters here are arguing against BOTH the ‘traditional model’ of Valentine’s Day AND the heapshit post above positing VDay as some sort of construction actively held up by women/feminists/the (imaginary) gynocentric world order in order to get free shit and laugh at dudes. We are capable of holding both these thoughts in our heads AT THE SAME TIME. Like most of your comrades, you are participating in an argument that no one else is having. FEMINISTS ARE NOT THE ONES PUSHING VALENTINE’S DAY AS SOME SORT OF OBLIGATION ON THE PART OF MEN. No one here is saying that’s the way we think it should be or want it to be. Clear?