So the other day, in writing about the shutdown of MGTOWforums.com, I quoted a rather ironic comment from Men’s “Human Rights” Activist Paul Elam about the site, which he denounced as a hive of “self-consuming bitterness” that was essentially
one rolling “cunts and whores” diatribe after another, spiced only with vicious attacks on men who were deemed less than worthy by Nacho Vidal’s standards.
The irony, of course, was that if you replaced “Nacho Vidal’s” name with Elams’s, his statement was in fact also a perfect description of his own site, A Voice for Men.
But I didn’t really have the space to properly document just how pervasive “‘cunts and whores’ diatribes” are on AVFM. So today I’d like to start that process, by looking at some selected examples of times in which contributors to AVFM — not commenters, but actual article writers and in some cases staff members — resorted to the c-word to make their points, whatever the hell those happened to be.
The c-word is remarkably popular on AVFM; going through the site’s archives, I found more than three dozen posts in which it appeared, sometimes by itself, and sometimes as part of a clever new portmanteau word. In one recent post, for example, Diana Davison and John Hembling declared Canada to be “a first world cuntry.” In another post, alimony became “cuntimony.”
But generally, the word appears in its natural state. While there are a few instances in which the word doesn’t reflect badly on the author — it’s found in a quotation from someone else, for example — it’s generally used straightforwardly as a slur; there’s nothing ironic or “satirical” in its usage. Some of the time it’s directed at specific women; other times at feminists. But it’s often directed at women in general.
The writer most fond of the term, ironically enough, is a woman, Diana Davison, who seems to slip the word into pretty much every post she can figure out how to. Probably her most impressive achievement, at least in terms of c-word usage, is a post titled “It’s a Woman Problem,” which starts out with this little zinger:
Women are facing a very real and grave problem in our culture: They are obnoxious cunts.
Lovely. Later in the post, she informs us that
Men are objects to women by which they gain social status and it is not something men have orchestrated, it is just an easy and convenient measure on “the scale of cunthood.”
In the end, she concludes:
All evidence indicates that Women’s Studies from early childhood education is a great idea. They just need to change the focus from women whining about their victimhood to women learning about how they victimize each other and teaching them to stop being cunts.
In other posts, she derides feminists as “lying, hypocritical cunts,” denounces Betty Friedan as both a “a complete cunt” and a “narcissistic twat,” and declares New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd to be “either lazy, sloppy, dishonest, or a genuine cunt” if not all of these things.
Another A Voice for Men contributor fond of the c-word is August Løvenskiolds. In one melodramatic tirade, he declared:
Women, through their sexual and reproductive capabilities, have always had a vast amount of power and influence over men, but this power cloaks itself in denials and subtleties in order to preserve itself. Cunt-power is cunning but every now and then, it peeks through the veil to expose a fetid maw of endless hunger and hatred.
In a “lighter” piece mocking those concerned about sexual harassment in the tech world he made a joke about how “C++ means “Cunt plus Oral plus Anal”, a brutal evaluation of women’s utility in programming.”
“Cunt” isn’t the only vagina-related insult favored by the writers of AVFM. “Twat” is also popular, particularly with Diana Davison. Paul Elam and Dr. Tara J. Palmatier both apparently think it’s hilarious to call Twitter “Twatter.”
Of course the person who sets the tone for AVFM is Elam, and he’s not exactly shy about using the c-word himself. In one notorious post he now insists was partially “satire,” he wrote:
[W]omen are often excused from killing someone whom they allege has abused them. They can shoot them in their sleep and walk. Happens all the time. It’ll even get you a spot on Oprah, and cuntists across the cunt-o-sphere will be lionizing you.
And he’s fond of using the term to describe specific women he dislikes. In one post, he declared actress Katherine Heigl a “misandric cunt;” in another he denounced Good Men Project Publisher and CEO Lisa Hickey as a “disingenuous cunt that makes her living off trying to turn men into lap dogs.”
Elam is well aware that this sort of language offends people and can even alienate many MRAs. But he has regularly defended it on the grounds of, well, I’ll let you try to figure out what he’s saying in this long, profanity laden screed (which, yes, does include the word “cunt”).
But I think my favorite Elam screed involving the c-word has to be the mouth-foamingly angry rant he wrote responding to a Jezebel piece on … a Summer’s Eve commercial featuring Cleopatra. It’s pretty unhinged, even by his standards; you may wish to go read the whole thing.
But here are some excerpts, in which he lectures the Jezebel writer about her proper place in the universe:
See, cupcake, you are not a goddess or any other kind of deity. You are just a woman, and that smooth spot between your legs? Just a pussy.
As for being the center of civilization; sorry, that spot is still reserved in the real world for those who built it. That would be men. …
The expectation that you are something more than human generally tends to indicate that you are actually something less.
Imagine a world in which you are just another person and not so easily offended by the sales of pussy soap. Fewer people would have to suffer your droning like a pipe organ about the fact that some advertiser acknowledged that Cleopatra had a cunt …
Pussy is power. Always has been. Just like the commercial said, men have fought and died for it. And much, much more. The truth about pussy power eviscerates every lie about female powerlessness ever pawned off by feminists on a culture so afraid of that power that it would not even call them on the lies.
So, yeah, Paul: “cunt diatribes,” your site has them. And you write some of angriest of the bunch.
I’ll cover AVFM’s use of the word “whore” in another post.
@ leatapp
Awesome video! Ahem, I mean… That video was so twat!
@ ait
That video is also twat! It’s not his face per say, more like the entire attitude. So I enjoyed the video very much 🙂
@David I guess he keep finding, to his dismay, that those womanbeings actually move and stuff.
@weirwood Paul is a totalitarian.
…when some oh-so-Christian PUA like the above isn’t stuffing his shame-stick into them, that is.
Even then, I bet he gets off on calling them grotty names during the entire (mercifully short, but somehow still too long) performance.
Why do I get the feeling that these guys consider the women they schtup to be scapegoats? The original practice of scapegoating involved assigning a goat to be the bearer of the village’s sins; it was then driven away, usually over the nearest cliff. I bet these guys are trying to squirt all their sins into women, and are mad that the law doesn’t allow them to drive that she-goat off a cliff anymore.
You give them way too much credit on their Biblical knowledge, Bina.
RE: Kiwi Girl
if you and katz and LBT got together, the interwebz would explode.
BY OUR POWERS COMBINED WE ARE INTERSPLOSION!
And don’t be so modest, Fibinachi, I couldn’t do poetry if my life depended on it!
RE: katz
…But we’re already the same person, aren’t we?
Don’t you dare! Our system is closed! No newbies! Not even ones as cool as you.
You’re probably right. I keep forgetting how proudly stupid these dudes are.
No, no, it’s not the system, it’s that we are ALL DAVID.
This thread may be the only place this video has ever been appropriate.
RE: Kittehs
Oh, we’re all in DAVID’s system. That’s all right then.
@FromAfar
I think this is a totally twat idea! I shall join you 🙂
RE: Nepenthe
I was listening to the song… until “your fat ass is on disability” was used as a put-down.
…
Well. Now I just feel shitty. Warn next time, huh?
Ah. And now I see that apparently this is an ongoing thing with you, Nepenthe. That’s nice.
And what’s wrong with managing a 7-11? I’ll admit, not my first choice in a career path, but not something somebody should be berated for, so far as I know.
Yeah, Nepenthe has taken the same path as a few others – how to be a troll while still claiming to be a regular.
Nice.
Why are they called 7-11s? Is it because they’re open from 7am to 11pm, or used to follow those hours, traditionally?
Over here, we call them dairies. That’s not as confusing as it might appear because people buy their milk from places other than dairies. The farms are called dairy farms in full, the occupation is called dairying or share-milking (depending on context), and the place that makes the milk for sale, cheese, etc is called Fonterra.
Yeah, they used to open those hours originally. Don’t know how long that lasted before they opened all the time.
Yup, kittehserf’s right.
Five points for… I’m sorry, what house were you again?
An interesting, if true, note on the derivation of the word “cunt:” Apparently, it can be traced to the old Irish word “ken,” meaning “to know.” It would seem that in a much older culture, the “cunt” was seen as the seat of all knowledge, since girls and, yes, boys emerge into the world from the Great Beyond through that self-same “cunt.” Maybe time to take back a word and use it with honor? Hmmm……..