So FeMRA videoblogger Karen “GirlWritesWhat” Straughan flapped her gums for nearly two hours the other night and sounds came out. This time she wasn’t sitting at her kitchen table blabbing to a webcam about female “hypoagency” and regurgitating misremembered factoids about bonobos but was speaking to an audience of mostly white dudes at Ryerson University in Toronto Canada.
I haven’t watched her performance — which is of course online as well — because life is short, and frankly I’d rather endure this for ten hours than subject myself to the tedious GWW for nearly two.
But I did take a look at a thread on the Men’s Rights subreddit started by a dude who hoped he and his fellow MRAs could have “a proper discussion about the talk, pros and cons, without descending into a circlejerk or a downvote party.” That’s right: he actually wanted GWW’s biggest fanboys to discuss her ideas (such as they are) on their merits.
This did not go over very well with the regulars, who jumped up to defend their favorite damsel in distress. ManUpManDown argued against the very notion of criticizing GWW, on the grounds of 1) her being supercool and 2) giving talks is hard:
Huh. But by NOT offering any criticism, aren’t you in fact treating her not as a writer or activist or, god forbid, a thinker, but precisely as a mascot?
Still, a few brave MRAs did bring up substantive critiques of her talk. For example, both 2095conash and memetherapy noted that she probably said “Right?” too often. Bluecharge, while proud of her performance, noted with brutal honesty that her “way of wrapping up points by saying ‘so there you go’ was a bit trite.”
So there you go.
Oh, I forgot to mention one dumb criticism some dumb guy made. GWW apparently suggested that if all the men in the world took three days off it would take three years to recover from the disaster that would ensue.
Essemd implied that this was a bit alarmist, arguing that if you gradually replaced men in the workforce with women — over the course of many years — it wouldn’t be the end of the world, because women could do these “men’s jobs” too. “[S]aying either gender is required because this and this job is mainly occupied by men or women is just false,” Essemd concluded.
Luckily there were a few real MRAs around to teach this fella a thing or two. Like Rikevo, who offered the powerful rebuttal that women can’t do shit:
Right?
And xNOM had a little list:
So there you go.
NOTE: I actually had that loop of “What is Love” on during most of the writing of this post. Hey, it’s a catchy song.
Pell! He’s gotten subtle since he was last banned. Subtle for him, anyway.
Surely not the fact that condescending, misogynous pricks are unattractive, noooooooo…because these guys are all so Nice™.
Nah, couldn’t possibly be that. 😛
I read that and thought “priapism”. 😈
Well, that would explain the constant blog-wanking…especially all those sad boner-notes.
I reckon so!
Oh really? It’s 41* in Adelaide today already and likely to get hotter, 42 predicted for tomorrow – then a few days in the mid 30s with just enough scattered showers to make it steamy and uncomfortable without actually cooling anything down much.
*41C is 106 in old money.
Speaking of sad boner-notes…how’s Paul Fucking Elam these days? I’d say he’s about due for another eruption, no?
@midlymagnificent
I’d prefer that over how cold it is here, (it was zero farenheit this morning) but that’s just because I tolerate warm weather soooooooo much better than I tolerate cold weather. So it’s probably just my-being-weird, I’m guessing lots of people would prefer the zero farenghiet.
On Manboobz, we have a name
For trolls and socks and liars
The liar is Mike
The troll’s Mejas
But we call the sock Maria
this radio show omfg….complaining about women/feminists complain when men have preferences about women’s body hair, yet earlier on men calling in and complaining about how they have to work and make money or women wont want them, wah wah, and all the honey badgers agreeing how unfair that is and poor menz, etc.
it men are allowed to have shallow preferences is women’s appearance, then they should not complain when women have shallow preferences for men’s money/job/status/whatever.
Or how bout everyone just shut up and keep their preferences to themselves and not loudly proclaim everywhere what they believe men and women should/shouldn’t do when it comes to their appearance and their lives. To me this is what I get from the whole preference debate. Date whoever you want, just don’t shame those who you won’t date. Don’t act like who you don’t find desirable are worth inherently less that who you DO find desirable.
And I’m going off topic again…I agree with CassandraKitty, I do think that part of it is that they feel certain GWW wont manipulate them out of money. Yet there’s also that Diana Davidson who’s become the token hot goth feMRA…..I think they don’t care what the woman looks like as long as they agree with the MRA ideaology and spout it out. Given how they think it’s some sort of “gotcha” too when a woman spouts misogynist crap, they are desperate for more women to be MRAs. If a woman doesn’t agree with MRAs though, then there MUST be some underhanded reason like ugly women mad they can’t get hot men, or hot women wanting to retain “female privilege” or whatever. That MUST be the reason I’m sure. It’s not like women or even other “manginas” disagree with MRAs because they distort history, downplay women’s issues or often say sexist or misogynist crap.
I agree with Shiraz too though, they desire young, beautiful women but hate them for all the crap they project onto them, how on earth do they go about their lives?
I can totally see how the cognitive dissonance produced by hating the people you’re attracted to would cause people to lash out all the time at the people who they hate but can’t stop themselves wanting. Doesn’t mean that doing so is OK, though.
Some of the trolls should have been kept in after school for more practice. They’re not good at being trolls either.
I’m still sad about the use of the word sock. Sock monkeys are cute and socks themselves are useful, and internet socks fit neither of those criteria.
So everytime I see the word sock used here in the internet context, I will mentally substitute “blobfish”.
Now listen, thee, and listen well:
I do not like thee, “Doctor” Pell.
Exactly why ain’t hard to tell;
It’s because you suck ass, silly Pell!
The self-hate is pretty evidant. Naturally projection follows. It’s like self-medicating so you can get through your day.
“I’m insecure about sexual performance,” turns into “Women with sexual experience is BAD…it means they’re USED!!!” They’re protecting themselves against potential criticism…they couldn’t handle it, I guess.
I had this Darth-ex who always told people he was eight-years younger than his actual age. Know what he called older women? Hags. Yeah. OK. Errr, project much? It was a way to soothe himself. He didn’t like getting older, so he had to pretend that a woman getting older was a far worse thing. He had to throw an entire demo under the bus to make himself feel better. I see this shit every day. It’s pathetic.
LOL and then this hit my inbox: http://foxcollection.innovations.co.nz/p/craft-hobbies/kids-craft/sock-puppets?cm_mmc=Email-_-XK41A-_-1141628-_-Sock+Puppets+Kit&cm_mmca1=10/2/2014&keycode=XK41A
Screw the puppets, I want the yellow socks with the hearts.
I have no idea how to embed a youtube video, so I’ll just post the link.
Or, apparently, by posting the link, I will embed the video…
We had the temps hit 41 or so again on Sunday, then a mixed-blessing cool change – mixed because here, it was lovely to have cooler air and a fresh breeze, but with dozens of fires around the state it made things much worse and more dangerous in those areas.
Most of Melbourne’s covered in smoke from various fires today. Where I am the smoke’s coming from a fire about 100 km away.
Stay safe, Aussie readers!
Dang, Kittehs. I would happily pipe some cool and non-smoke-filled air to you from here if I could. It’s -2 (fahrenheit) here in Chicago at the moment.
::takes deep breath::
Virtual air will do for now, thanks, David!
At least it’s okay in my house, we’ve had the windows closed since yesterday.
Plus, all the fur I inhale acts as a filter. Probably.
Hey! Blob fish look like deflated Kirby!
What is a Kirby?