So FeMRA videoblogger Karen “GirlWritesWhat” Straughan flapped her gums for nearly two hours the other night and sounds came out. This time she wasn’t sitting at her kitchen table blabbing to a webcam about female “hypoagency” and regurgitating misremembered factoids about bonobos but was speaking to an audience of mostly white dudes at Ryerson University in Toronto Canada.
I haven’t watched her performance — which is of course online as well — because life is short, and frankly I’d rather endure this for ten hours than subject myself to the tedious GWW for nearly two.
But I did take a look at a thread on the Men’s Rights subreddit started by a dude who hoped he and his fellow MRAs could have “a proper discussion about the talk, pros and cons, without descending into a circlejerk or a downvote party.” That’s right: he actually wanted GWW’s biggest fanboys to discuss her ideas (such as they are) on their merits.
This did not go over very well with the regulars, who jumped up to defend their favorite damsel in distress. ManUpManDown argued against the very notion of criticizing GWW, on the grounds of 1) her being supercool and 2) giving talks is hard:
Huh. But by NOT offering any criticism, aren’t you in fact treating her not as a writer or activist or, god forbid, a thinker, but precisely as a mascot?
Still, a few brave MRAs did bring up substantive critiques of her talk. For example, both 2095conash and memetherapy noted that she probably said “Right?” too often. Bluecharge, while proud of her performance, noted with brutal honesty that her “way of wrapping up points by saying ‘so there you go’ was a bit trite.”
So there you go.
Oh, I forgot to mention one dumb criticism some dumb guy made. GWW apparently suggested that if all the men in the world took three days off it would take three years to recover from the disaster that would ensue.
Essemd implied that this was a bit alarmist, arguing that if you gradually replaced men in the workforce with women — over the course of many years — it wouldn’t be the end of the world, because women could do these “men’s jobs” too. “[S]aying either gender is required because this and this job is mainly occupied by men or women is just false,” Essemd concluded.
Luckily there were a few real MRAs around to teach this fella a thing or two. Like Rikevo, who offered the powerful rebuttal that women can’t do shit:
Right?
And xNOM had a little list:
So there you go.
NOTE: I actually had that loop of “What is Love” on during most of the writing of this post. Hey, it’s a catchy song.
David = Wales to me, with St David being their patron saint and all.
@kittehs
I’d eagerly take your warm weather. The rest of the continent, I sadly can’t vouch for 😛
Trolls really do think we share a hivemind. If they front as a woman, they believe we’ll be forced to agree with them out of Borg obligation or whatever.
Crud, someone else beat me to guessing the Maria sockpuppet is actually Good.
By the way, Ally S, who is the character in your avatar this time? Before it was Okinu from Ghost Sweeper Mikami, then it was (I think) Keiko Yukimura from YuYu Hakusho. Who is it now?
My favorite are the trolls who expect us to believe they were totally real feminists before this site either drove them away by being terrible, or introduced them to the manosphere and made them MRAs.
Emilygoddess, I always assumed driver suz was one of those. Except with an added, “My son is a good and perfect boy, and I’d never let him date one of you feminist harpies!”
I could be wrong, but…
I always figured driversuz was what would happen if Ann Coulter had kids.
runs outside
makes snow kitty
sends it to kittehs
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**snicker-snort**
(this is me fistbumping Cassandra)
eeeeee snowkitties!
🙂
Big words from someone whose ideal woman is a child prostitute being sold for the first time.
Or so her pimp will tell you.
Yeah, kinda fits that that shit should come from a child rapist – or at the least, someone who fantasises about being one.
@cassandra
Maybe it’s because my first thought is that “Maria” is our personal blog herpes, but this comment made me laugh much harder than it should have 😛
And looking at David’s newest post I guess my first thought was right (either that or it was Pell)
Marie nails it! It was Pell! (Honorable metion to Shadow.)
The prize is an autographed picture of Montgomery Clift, but you have to get it from Pell.
How to tell how used up a woman is?
Don’t tell me you all turned off Microsoft Penis Assistant!
(I’m sorry I’m so sorry please don’t hurt me)
I’m actually torturing myself be listening to clips of that honey badger radio show about Laci Green and her OMGHORRIBLEMISANDRY video on objectification. GWW thinks that to be taken seriously, women shouldn’t look attractive or highlight their features with makeup. Because people never ever brush off what unattractive women have to say. “Oh you’re just ugly and jealous” is such a common way of brushing off a woman’s argument. So does this mean men with wives and girlfriends don’t take their wives seriously or listen to what they have to say because they are sexually attracted to them?
I find it funny how GWW herself looks like the media stereotype of a masculine feminist. Really short hair, no makeup, plain clothing…yet the only reason she is listened to by her followers is because she strokes their victim complexes and tells them what they want to hear. If she was giving making youtube videos from a feminist standpoint, swarms of dudes would come out and attack her appearance. Actually I’ve seen a few comments under her youtube videos before of people mistake her for a feminist and attack her appearance until someone pointed out she was anti-feminist.
Also with the whole manosphere, have you all noticed how the stereotype of the evil feminist is no longer the ugly hairy lesbian, but the gorgeous, young, superficial woman out for alpha males and using their sexuality to entice men? all it says to me is no matter what a woman looks like, there will always be men (and probably some women) who will completely disregard what they have to say based on their appearance. And personally speaking, I wear makeup and when I’m having a serious discussion with men, I’m taken seriously…at least I don’t recall any time I was brushed off simply for my appearance. Maybe it’s because I don’t hang around sexist idiots?
you think pell would’ve moved on to different blogs to troll by now..
@David
Yay, I’m so excited! 😀
Hang on guys, I’m still
gloatingI mean celebrating.I’M SO HAPPY MY PERFECT DAY IS COMPLETE!
It is interesting that MRAs have chosen someone who doesn’t perform femininity in a physical way as their official token woman who agrees with them. My guess as to why would be that if they would see a woman who did perform femininity as trying to use it to manipulate them.
“Also with the whole manosphere, have you all noticed how the stereotype of the evil feminist is no longer the ugly hairy lesbian, but the gorgeous, young, superficial woman out for alpha males and using their sexuality to entice men?”
It’s hard to say if they changed out the stereotype or not since those guys often mistake all women for feminists, errr, at least some of them do — based on some of their comments. I know they’re obsessed with beautiful women, like they want one really bad, but they also hate them too. It must be painful to be so misogynistic and hetero at the same time.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall for when their heads start to spin, spit up pea soup, and then explode…
Maybe these idiots have finally twigged that feminists aren’t just the ugly/hairy/lesbian stereotypes – any woman can be a feminist and you can’t tell by how she looks (oh noes the horror). Or maybe it’s simply that no woman will fuck them, nobody in the whole wide world, and therefore we must all be feminists, because what other reason could there be?
They want, but cannot have…and therefore, they hate. Grapes be sour…