So FeMRA videoblogger Karen “GirlWritesWhat” Straughan flapped her gums for nearly two hours the other night and sounds came out. This time she wasn’t sitting at her kitchen table blabbing to a webcam about female “hypoagency” and regurgitating misremembered factoids about bonobos but was speaking to an audience of mostly white dudes at Ryerson University in Toronto Canada.
I haven’t watched her performance — which is of course online as well — because life is short, and frankly I’d rather endure this for ten hours than subject myself to the tedious GWW for nearly two.
But I did take a look at a thread on the Men’s Rights subreddit started by a dude who hoped he and his fellow MRAs could have “a proper discussion about the talk, pros and cons, without descending into a circlejerk or a downvote party.” That’s right: he actually wanted GWW’s biggest fanboys to discuss her ideas (such as they are) on their merits.
This did not go over very well with the regulars, who jumped up to defend their favorite damsel in distress. ManUpManDown argued against the very notion of criticizing GWW, on the grounds of 1) her being supercool and 2) giving talks is hard:
Huh. But by NOT offering any criticism, aren’t you in fact treating her not as a writer or activist or, god forbid, a thinker, but precisely as a mascot?
Still, a few brave MRAs did bring up substantive critiques of her talk. For example, both 2095conash and memetherapy noted that she probably said “Right?” too often. Bluecharge, while proud of her performance, noted with brutal honesty that her “way of wrapping up points by saying ‘so there you go’ was a bit trite.”
So there you go.
Oh, I forgot to mention one dumb criticism some dumb guy made. GWW apparently suggested that if all the men in the world took three days off it would take three years to recover from the disaster that would ensue.
Essemd implied that this was a bit alarmist, arguing that if you gradually replaced men in the workforce with women — over the course of many years — it wouldn’t be the end of the world, because women could do these “men’s jobs” too. “[S]aying either gender is required because this and this job is mainly occupied by men or women is just false,” Essemd concluded.
Luckily there were a few real MRAs around to teach this fella a thing or two. Like Rikevo, who offered the powerful rebuttal that women can’t do shit:
And xNOM had a little list:
NOTE: I actually had that loop of “What is Love” on during most of the writing of this post. Hey, it’s a catchy song.
We need some kind of troll screening process, like the height guides you get on the rides at theme parks. You must be at least this intelligent to troll this blog.
Never mind, I just looked it up . . . the intellectual dishonesty dude called himself Asher. I don’t remember anything about Abnoy except he was terrible. For whatever reason he was terrible.
I am in fact a kitty. It’s hard to operate a computer without thumbs, but hey, I try hard.
Actually being a cat would explain my utter lack of typing skills. So, I’m a cat. Meow.
I have an image to send to all those trolls who comment here about how much they hate women.
…. and, yes, it turns out Maria is a sockpuppet too, and has been banned. (In my defense, these sockpuppets use different IPs all the time, and usually start out with fairly innocuous posts.)
Does anyone want to put in bets on who it was?
Annoy was the one who found it fun to claim he had sex (raped) 14 year old sex workers cuz that’s legal there, and then claim shit about western imperialism or something when we went all NOPTOPUS
So bye bye Mejas, you won’t be missed!
I’m a Basil. I have green, scaly skin and a series of yellow underbellies running down my spine and tail …
Well, tut-tut’s a kid, right? That would be my guess — or he’s an adult who’s super excited about showing us how sexually insecure he is. Congrats, my man!
LEAVE ME ALONE BLOCKQUOTE MONSTER X_X
Was Maria Good?
Does this mean you’re I, Cloudiah?
Hmmm, whose sock was “Maria”? Obvious guess is Mr 90%, though Good-for-nothing comes to mind with the stupid link dumps.
But Ally, the blockquote monster hungers. It must have offerings. Tasty, tasty offerings!
Ninjaed by serrana!
Hey, Ally, if you put that text formatting toolbar on Firefox you can defeat the blockquote monster FOR EVAH. /evangelising
Also, why do the trolls think coming back with a woman’s name will fool us? Do they really think we’re all Teh Ladies here? Obviously I’m no lady. I’m a cat named after a chili pepper.
So… Privileges for men, then? Or perhaps you think discriminating against women is the natural order of things, and therefore male-targeted discrimination is inherently reversed.
…is for spouses whose contribution to the marriage was not direct income. In a more feminist world, the ratio of women to men doing unpaid labour would not be nearly so skewed, and alimony would be awarded more equally across genders.
…is for children. Why do you have a problem with people caring financially for their own children?
This one is actually true, to be fair. Feminists demand that a quota of 100% of women be of the female gender.
Now you’re just repeating shit.
Women having power, oh no!
Vague enough to be meaningless.
Anti-domestic-violence legislation, oh no!
Don’t even understand this one.
This is the first time I have learned that advocating academic fraud is a feminist stance. XD
I would like the privilege of having agency over my own body, please.
Oops, you have confused “feminism” with “patriarchy,” exactly the thjng that feminism is trying to dismantle.
I am pretty fucking impudent…
Not being able to argue that a woman is unrapeable because she’s had sex before, oh no!
Standards in what?
Damn, almost got away scot-free XD. Damn blockquote monster!
And chewing your nails. Disgraceful. Speaking of which, I’m a king sitting around nekkid.
The standard troll “but look, I’m a lady now!” trick is hilarious. No matter how many times it fails they remain convinced that if they can just get us to think they’re women we’ll have to agree with whatever crap they’re waffling on about.
I remember Karin! Ze created a whole FB profile first. And we had a short-lived one named “Josephine” (I think) who wanted to talk with us about bras but thought a 36C was a hard-to-find size.
And looking pretty buff, too! And by the way, I’m not chewing my nails, I’m thinking deep, thinky thoughts. As deep as a kitty named after a vegetable can think, anyway.
I agree with the bet that Maria was Good.
Do chillies count as vegetables? Never was sure about that.
Heh! 🙂
I should have known, I am ashamed!! Of course a kitty is thinking deep thinky thoughts. Kitties’ thoughts are so deep mere hoomins have no way of
knowing if anything’s going on in there at allunderstanding them.