So FeMRA videoblogger Karen “GirlWritesWhat” Straughan flapped her gums for nearly two hours the other night and sounds came out. This time she wasn’t sitting at her kitchen table blabbing to a webcam about female “hypoagency” and regurgitating misremembered factoids about bonobos but was speaking to an audience of mostly white dudes at Ryerson University in Toronto Canada.
I haven’t watched her performance — which is of course online as well — because life is short, and frankly I’d rather endure this for ten hours than subject myself to the tedious GWW for nearly two.
But I did take a look at a thread on the Men’s Rights subreddit started by a dude who hoped he and his fellow MRAs could have “a proper discussion about the talk, pros and cons, without descending into a circlejerk or a downvote party.” That’s right: he actually wanted GWW’s biggest fanboys to discuss her ideas (such as they are) on their merits.
This did not go over very well with the regulars, who jumped up to defend their favorite damsel in distress. ManUpManDown argued against the very notion of criticizing GWW, on the grounds of 1) her being supercool and 2) giving talks is hard:
Huh. But by NOT offering any criticism, aren’t you in fact treating her not as a writer or activist or, god forbid, a thinker, but precisely as a mascot?
Still, a few brave MRAs did bring up substantive critiques of her talk. For example, both 2095conash and memetherapy noted that she probably said “Right?” too often. Bluecharge, while proud of her performance, noted with brutal honesty that her “way of wrapping up points by saying ‘so there you go’ was a bit trite.”
So there you go.
Oh, I forgot to mention one dumb criticism some dumb guy made. GWW apparently suggested that if all the men in the world took three days off it would take three years to recover from the disaster that would ensue.
Essemd implied that this was a bit alarmist, arguing that if you gradually replaced men in the workforce with women — over the course of many years — it wouldn’t be the end of the world, because women could do these “men’s jobs” too. “[S]aying either gender is required because this and this job is mainly occupied by men or women is just false,” Essemd concluded.
Luckily there were a few real MRAs around to teach this fella a thing or two. Like Rikevo, who offered the powerful rebuttal that women can’t do shit:
And xNOM had a little list:
NOTE: I actually had that loop of “What is Love” on during most of the writing of this post. Hey, it’s a catchy song.
Wow. This thread is covered in necro trolls.
Hit the road Jack, and don’tcha come back no more, no more, no more, no more,
Hit the road Jack, and don’tcha come back no more
🙂
You’re welcome.
Shut up Woody.
What’d you say?
LOL!
I have decided I like this version:
http://youtu.be/rU_EweSJfGE
I’ve seen a lot of Karen’s stuff online and I’ve seen you David on television. You might want to leave her alone pussy boy, she is a REAL tigress, the kind that could remove your little shrunken balls.
More evidence that most MRAs would be a lot happier if they hired a pro domme?
Definitely. Is that the secret to why they let feMRAs into their clubhouse, d’you think?
I wouldn’t be surprised if most of them had a secret stash of fanart of their favorite feMRAs holding whips.
Ah, the MRAs continue to substitute threats of violence for argument.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all, cassandra.
It’s an insult to all of feline kind to compare Straughn to a tiger. The furinatti are not pleased.
I can’t think of any non-human life form that wouldn’t be insulted by the comparison.
I don’t think trolley realizes we recognized her dog and pony show for what it is a very long time ago.
So long ago the dog and pony have since retired. 😛
Tigers are powerful, elegant, and intimidating. GWW is none of these things.
Cassandrakitty re that bit of externalized misogyny where you sexualized and commercialized Karen’s protective attitude towards men as a “pro-domme.” Which is close to calling a woman a whore because you disagree with her.
I think most male victims of sexual violence and other survivors of bad relationships and divorces would prefer an amateur domme to a professional — a strong woman who actually gives a fuck about them. And yes, I think that’s Karen’s appeal. I think she’s wrong about a number of things, but there are so precious few people, let alone strong articulate women, who speak up publicly for male victims of sexual abuse, that it’s natural for some men — and for women who think that male victims get shafted by the victims advocacy systems — to want to stick up for Karen, and to wish she had more of a platform. When you attack her, you’re essentially attacking some very vulnerable people who really don’t have anyone else to speak for them.
@Petra Pumpkineater
“When you attack a Femra you’re the ones actually attacking sexual abuse victims not us.”
Ha ha, fuck off to Pluto necrotroll.