Is there no problem out there that can’t be solved by SCIENCE? Apparently not. Indeed, it has recently come to my attention that one heroic nerdy dude actually used MATH to get a girlfriend. No really, an actual girlfriend. As in, a living human female that he’s seen naked. (We can only presume.)
Wired magazine found the story so astonishing that they devoted an entire 3000 word feature to it.
The piece tells the tale of Chris McKinlay, then a grad student in mathematics at UCLA, who went searching for love on OKCupid, a dating site that uses daters’ answers to various questions, ranging from silly to profound, in order to calculate a “match score” that supposedly measures your compatibility with a potential date. But McKinlay wasn’t getting as many dates as he wanted.
So he decided to “reverse-engineer” OkCupid. As McKinlay — ever the romantic — explains on his own blog, he used his mathematical skillz to analyze the “high-dimensional user metadata in [the] putatively bipartite social graph structure [of] OkCupid,” and adjust his own profile accordingly.
Basically, he crunched a lot of numbers to figure out how the kinds of women he was most interested in — in particular one data “cluster dominated by women in their mid-twenties who looked like indie types, musicians and artists” — tended to answer questions. And then he fiddled with his own answers — and his choice of which questions to answer — so he would score higher match percentages with them. Ta da! Suddenly he had more matches.
He claims not to have answered any questions dishonestly, but as Wired notes “he let his computer figure out how much importance to assign each question, using a machine-learning algorithm called adaptive boosting to derive the best weightings.”
It doesn’t take a math degree to figure out that fudging your answers so they’re more like those of the women you’re targeting will make it look like you’re more like them. You can pull this same trick in real life by pretending to agree with everything a person says.
But you don’t have to be a psychologist to see that doing this kind of defeats the purpose of OKCupid’s match algorithms in the first place. You’re creating the illusion of chemistry where there may be none. Essentially, you’re cheating, but in a really self-defeating way.
And by focusing so intently on statistically crunchable data, he also ignored a lot of the more intangible “data” that the profiles provide if you actually sit down to read them. The numbers don’t reveal anything about a person’s verbal charm, or their sense of humor. They don’t tell you about the interesting little details of the person’s life.
As Katie Heaney notes in a Buzzfeed piece on McKinlay’s strange quest:
[M]uch of the language used in the story reflects a weird mathematician-pickup artist-hybrid view of women as mere data points … often quite literally: McKinlay refers to identity markers like ethnicity and religious beliefs as “all that crap”; his “survey data” is organized into a “single, solid gob”; unforeseen traits like tattoos and dog ownership are called “latent variables.” By viewing himself as a developer, and the women on OkCupid as subjects to be organized and “mined,” McKinlay places himself in a perceived greater place of power. Women are accessories he’s entitled to. Pickup artists do this too, calling women “targets” and places where they live and hang out “marketplaces.” It’s a spectrum, to be sure, but McKinlay’s worldview and the PUA worldview are two stops along it. Both seem to regard women as abstract prizes for clever wordplay or, as it may be, skilled coding. Neither seems particularly aware of, or concerned with, what happens after simply getting a woman to say yes.
And that’s where McKinlay’s system seems to have fallen down entirely. Though Wired is eager to present his “hacking” as a great success, it took McKinlay more than 90 dates — 87 of them first dates with no followup — before he found his current girlfriend.
In other words, his wondrous system produced a metric shit-ton of “false matches” and wasted a lot of people’s time, including his own.
And in the end it wasn’t his data crunching that brought his girlfriend to his door; as Wired notes, she found him on OKCupid after doing a “search for 6-foot guys with blue eyes near UCLA.” Happily for him, McKinlay already matched her preferences in these areas. In addition to appreciating his height and eye color and location in physical space, she apparently was also charmed by his cynical approach to OkCupid dating, so maybe they are a match made in heaven, if not in his data crunching techniques.
While McKinlay was going on first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date after first date, people I know have found wonderfully compatible matches — and long-term relationships — through OkCupid without having to date dozens of duds along the way.
How? Partly because OkCupid’s match algorithms led them to some interesting candidates. But mainly because they read profiles carefully and looked for compatibility in the words, not the numbers.
I find that I tend to have the same attitudes to same-sex couples I know as I do for the hetero. So the scenario that cassandra mentions in the third comment back gives me the same feelings for both same-sex and opposite-sex partnerships/relationships. That said, the biggest age differentials I have encountered have been in opposite-sex relationships. YMMV.
@Fibinachi, and you have the G&S niche filled too. 🙂
Kiwi girl, I’m older’n you!
Heh – reminds me of one funny birthday/works lunch way back in the day. Turned out I was a few weeks older than birthday boy – we’d both assumed he was older – and we yelled the “I’m older than you!” “You’re older than me!” thing simultaneously, like we were 9 rather than 29.
Those guys were fun to work with. 🙂
LOL it’s great to have work colleagues.My boss is about 6 months older than me, so I hope we’re both still there when 50 rolls around in a couple of years. Because that is 6 months of me teasing him *mercilessly*. Not that I think 50’s old, but because I think he’s not looking forward to it.
*great to have great work colleagues
I am laughing like Woody Woodpecker at the merciless teasing idea. It would have been just the same if I was working with those guys last year!
How does it happen that this wonderful OKCupid algorithm which is supposed to find a good match for everyone (and if doesn’t it meens a person doesn’t deserve a partner) keeps you flooded with all kinds of creeps and stalkers?
Because it’s not due to the algorithm – the algorithm doesn’t prevent a person from being contacted by someone who is a low match. Nor does the algorithm force people to be accurate in their answers/auto-correct lies.
Logic, how does it work again?
Human agency, how does it work again?
OKCupid is international, and in most other countries the drinking age is 18. You americans are the weirdos. I know that americans are the majority, but people outside the US can’t be insignificant.
Kim — fair enough. Though I ran it by my mother and she was less polite than I was about how guys under 21 act (and being fairly young, I’m gonna put the idiot drop off point a few years older than that!)
Kiwi Girl — I’ll be 29 this summer. But thank you, and Fibi, I’m apparently cool! ^.^
I’m also not sleeping, despite sleeping pill and a half (aka 75% of the initial dose that turned me into a zombie so we halved it…which only sometimes works). Bad Brain!
Oh and sorting by match percent I have to scroll through dozens of profiles to hit below 90%, and I’m really not some amazing catch or anything! Who’s visited my profile though? The VAST majority have match ratings under 70%, some as low as 20%. (Note, if yours is <50% and your message is "wassup?" the answer is "the delete button")
RE: Argenti
Yup. While my life since my creation seems to be either crisis, or RECOVERING from crisis. The closest thing to “restful days” I had was that year in New Zealand, where I was mostly doing menial work, moving constantly (usually at least once a month), and still recovering from rape trauma. To me, that was blissfully low-impact. The Chinese curse “may you live in interesting times,” seems to have been made with me in mind.
RE: Viscaria
Sometimes I wonder if it’s hypocritical to point out how creepy that kind of behaviour is.
Again, it’s not the age, but how you use it. My hubby’s significantly older than me too, but he always respected my boundaries and never treated me like a stupid child or hired help. Of course, our situation was pretty unusual already, and we met under circumstances where I had power over HIM. So you know.
Also, he NEVER said age was just a number. He was really conflicted about it, especially since I was nineteen and he was twenty-seven at the start. But we actually TALKED about it, and worked on it. Shock!
RE: maturation rate
This is always weird to me, because our younger brother seemed to grow up fairly slowly, while I feel like I just skipped adolescence. I never felt like I WASN’T an adult, probably because of the whole “constant crisis” shit I mentioned above, so I can’t understand the whole manchild phenomenon. I’m always like, “Weren’t you living in constant rapey circumstances? Or fearing complete destitution or familial abandonment? HOW DO YOU LIVE LIKE THAT?” It’s like I forget that that ISN’T normal life.
Not gonna lie, means I have a lot less sympathy for folks whose biggest problem is vague existential discontent because they haven’t experienced much challenge in their lives.
Damn straight. I look at what people on manboobz have experienced and think how fucking lucky I’ve been. Yeah, a quiet life with few challenges, but that isn’t actually something to complain about!
So important. Same with us.
Spouse is older than I as well but the difference is when we met we both were independent adults.who had our own lives, desires and accomplishments. Trying to attached yourself to someone who has barely started their life because they are less likely to know you’re being an ass is just creepy on so many levels.
@viscaria
I don’t think it’s hypocritical. There’s a difference between (however you guys met) where you seem like your okay with him being x years older and guys who message much younger women despite the women saying they want to date people in a different age range. One is just two people dating, the other the older men are directly ignoring what women already said they wanted.
@cassandra
I don’t know, I think 19 w/ 40 is already raising alarm bells. or 19 with 30. I’m 19, and I don’t think I know myself well to be dating someone over 25 (preferably under 22) because of how people grow up. I mean, I know people mature at faster/slower rates, but it just seems like theirs too much a difference in life experience. If that makes sense?
@kim
Majority in okcupid? on manboobz? Sorry, I just don’t understand.
And hey, I’d love the drinking age to be lower here 😀
I’m not sure what the difference is between saying something is getting sketchy and saying it should potentially raise alarm bells?
@Cassandra
Um, me neither :;blush:: I just wondered if you meant something different, since they were phrased differently, but maybe you were just avoiding awkward word repetition? Idk, feel free to straighten me out on this one, cuz I’m clearly confused.
What I was trying to get at is just that the more the gap increases, the sketchier it gets, and the more it’s reasonable for people to side-eye the older person.
@cassandra
Yeah, that makes sense. I think I get what you’re saying now. Sorry for the confusion.
NP!
So, women who chosed that man for a date did not have an agency?
Hi, yzek!
Although I do not always use correct grammar, there’s definitely ways that are worse. The word you were looking for was chose and they didn’t have an agency… well, unless they were a CEO. You also don’t need the word ‘an’ in front of agency, unless you are wondering if they owned a business.
So, no, they probably didn’t have an agency. Well, they were using an agency, because OK Cupid might qualify.
They did have agency. However, they also had unequal information; namely, they had access to compatibility scores that were skewed towards more ‘compatible’ by his strategic choice, relative to other men who were not consciously attempting to get compatibility ratings with specific groups.
For them, choosing to message him was like accidentally choosing chunky peanut butter instead of creamy because the labels were switched at the factory.
Hence needing about 90 first dates…
Now why would a woman have to hire an agency to “chosed” a man for a date? And what kind of agency are we talking about here? An ad agency? A movie agent? What?