Apparently hoping to gin up another flood of hate-traffic to his blog, the attention-seeking human stain whose name rhymes with Batt Gorney has posted what is essentially a how-to guide for would-be abusive boyfriends under the charming title “How to Crush a Girl’s Self-Esteem.”
“Gorney” has conveniently arranged his suggestions into a numbered list, so let’s proceed through them one by one. (If you’re triggered by explicit discussions of psychological and physical abuse, please stop reading now.)
Step one, in “Gorney’s” not-so-unique 6-step-plan: “Constantly make her feel inadequate.”
And how do you do that? Easy as pie.
Every time she does something for you, find out what she did wrong and remind her of it. If you can’t find any problems, make some up.
And try some mild gaslighting while you’re at it.
[Y]ou should always sound calm and collected, like you’re talking about the weather. Denigrating her in a neutral-but-firm fashion will trip her submissiveness circuitry, making her think about how she can better serve you. And every time she reaches the goalposts, you move them, forcing her to play an eternal game of catch-up.
Like the salesmen in Glengarry Glen Ross, you should Always Be Criticizing:
The concept is that if you criticize girls for minor mistakes, they’ll be less likely to commit major ones, as their mental energy is expended on dealing with your every complaint. For example, if you constantly critique the way she dresses, you won’t be arguing with her over whether she should get a tattoo or nose piercing to express her “individuality.”
In step 2, “Dominate her physically and sexually,”“Gorney” encourages his readers to violate their girlfriend’s personal and sexual boundaries at every chance.
Repeatedly violate her boundaries in small, petty ways, small enough that she’ll feel petty for complaining to you.
That’s right: abuse her strategically, and in such a way that she feels crazy for complaining about your abuse. “Gorney” is thinking like a true abuser.
For example, if you’re into anal sex and she’s not thrilled about it, the next time you take her from behind, stick your finger into her asshole. If she doesn’t like facials, cum in her hair instead. Lightly clasp your hand around her throat during sex like you’re going to choke her. (Do not actually choke her. That is dangerous.) Smack her on the behind when you’re out in public. The possibilities are endless.
The message you want to send her is simple: it’s not her body anymore.
This is all textbook abusive behavior.
“Gorney” follows this with a lovely bit of rationalization:
Most girls want you to dominate them anyway, but the rationalization hamster and their conscious minds prevent them from articulating this desire.
And then it’s back to more strategic abuse:
[I]f she lets you get away with minor violations of her boundaries, she’ll accede to your bigger demands later on, letting you mold her into the perfect plaything. If she doesn’t violently resist getting her anus fingered, a little more pressure and you’ll be full-on sodomizing her, grinning as she whimpers between each thrust.
Apparently the only sexual pleasure “Gorney” can imagine from anal sex is the pleasure he evidently gets from forcing women into it against their will.
Oh, and make sure you never give her the chance to say “no.”
Never ask her for anything, because asking is begging, and begging is contemptible.
Yep. Avoid the thorny issue of consent by never asking, and assuming that anything other than violent resistance is a “yes.”
Step 3 in “Gorney’s” program takes the creepiness into overdrive: “Isolate her from her friends and family.”
I don’t have much to say about this one; there’s a reason this is a favorite technique of cults and domestic abusers alike. Here’s Gorney’s take on it:
You need to be the primary emotional influence in her life, and you can’t do that if she’s leaning on anyone else for support. Gradually wean her from contact with anyone other than you.
What’s in it for you?
Not only will this increase her emotional dependence on you, it will make her more willing to please you; she’ll be less likely to wreck the relationship if she knows she’ll be all alone if it goes south.
For step 4, “Gorney” puts away the stick for a moment and pulls out a carrot, urging his readers to “Reward her at random intervals.”
But his emphasis is as much on the random as on the rewards; this is yet another gaslighting trick.
If you reward her every time she does good, she’ll see the pattern and use it to manipulate you. But if you reward her at random, her little hamster brain will run itself ragged trying to figure out your endgame.
Step 5 carries the slightly misleading title “Give her an emotional release.” In fact, what he suggests is that you physically “discipline” your girlfriend when she does “wrong” in your eyes.
By spanking a girl until she starts crying and sobbing, you give her an emotional release, turning her into a soppy puddle of goo and making her more inclined to serve you. As a friend of mine put it, all girls crave spankings; it’s their way of making up for Eve’s sin.
“Gorney” seems to be confusing consensual BDSM — which can bring bottoms or submissives intensely emotional releases — with domestic violence.
In step 6, “Gorney” tries to convince his readers — and himself — that it’s an abuser’s incredible sexual prowess, and not his manipulative abuse, that allows him to keep control over an abusive relationship.
You absolutely must have good cocksmanship if you want to ruin a girl’s self-esteem. Girls are enslaved to their vaginas as much as men are to their penises … Girls will do anything for a man who can fuck them good … .
Your dick is heroin, she’s the junkie and you’re the dealer.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
If you can make her cum on a regular basis, she’ll side with you over her parents, her friends, everyone.
Really? I hate to break it to you, dude, but “[m]aking her cum on a regular basis” is not really an extraordinary achievement, dude. It’s not a sign that you’re some sort of exceptional “cocksman” with a dick of pure heroin. It’s actually kind of, you know, basic? Expected? Also, most women can give themselves orgasms on a regular basis.
Additionally, don’t make her cum every time you have sex. Think like a dealer: you give the customer the pure stuff when you want to get them hooked, and when they’re addicted, you sell them shit that’s been cut with rat poison to increase your bottom line.
Somehow I don’t doubt that sex with guys like this would be a lot like taking drugs laced with rat poison.
[R]ationing out her orgasms at random will keep her on her toes trying to satisfy you.
Or send her off in search of someone who’s not such a complete asshole in bed?
“Gorney’s” advice is so over-the-top awful — it sometimes reads like he’s literally copied it from some textbook on domestic abuse — that it’s hard not to wonder if he just trolling. And to some degree, I’m sure he is. But he also clearly believes a lot of the shit he posts, and so I can only assume he believes, and possibly follows, at least some of his “advice” here.
This is a guy, after all, who admitted plainly to hitting a previous girlfriend, in a post in which he also declared that
Women should be terrorized by their men; it’s the only thing that makes them behave better than chimps.
Actually, that’s not true. In fact, there’s some research that suggests male chimps terrorize female chimps — and beat them with branches — to punish them for mating with other males. So men who abuse women are in fact the ones behaving like chimps.
Every time I think that the manosphere can’t sink any lower, something comes along and proves me wrong.
NOTE: I don’t want to give “Gorney” any traffic for his terrible post. But I also feel obligated to link to my source. So I have. I’ve just hidden the link randomly in the middle of the post.
@Tzeenj
It really sucks that you are surrounded by misogynist. I know there are places where that is the norm, but please believe me when I say there are places that aren’t like that.
Also, they hate women, but they love the idea of an unpaid servant and/or sex slave. So if they can use these techniques to turn a woman into one, then they’re happy.
Thankfully I left the online dating site and then came here and read this, not the other way around.
Next time someone objects to the “Abuser’s Lobby” label, I’m pointing ’em right at this mess.
@Sredni, you’re nicer than I am.
Does anyone need any brain bleach.
Looking through some of the archives, Futrelle, you seem to have a particular hate-on for Matt Forney. Do you two have a history or something?
@cupisnique:
Thanks for pasting in the quote. The focus on the sandwiches being cut into rectangles and not triangles is extremely funny, because I would never expect an adult to care about how their sandwiches are cut (and many adults I know eat sandwiches uncut).
That commentator really couldn’t have picked a more apt topic to demonstrate how much of a small child’s mentality they have. While we adults have more important concerns. 🙂
Then they’ll say “Oh but moderate MRAs!”
And we’ll say “Okay, show us who these moderate MRAs are.”
Then there’ll be crickets.
Whoa, trotting corgis! 🙂
I’m coasting on this morning’s brain bleach courtesy of Mr K, but corgis are always welcome.
How stupid are you? Forney’s a repellent and mockable misogynist and that’s what this blog’s about. There are plenty of repeat offenders in the posts (Elam, Roosh, etc, etc).
The commentators are a mixed bag. Their are several people pointing out that Matt’s advocating emotional abuse because they haven’t picked up on that fact that he knows that, it’s deliberate and he thinks that it makes him edgy and hilarious.
He has a few wanna-be fan boys trying to emulate his shitbag swagger, which is a really sad place to be in life.
His earnest, serious-minded commentators are kind of amazing, they are taking this as real relationship advice and actually trying to engage in a dialogue about his idiot trolling.
Flawed? You don’t say!
They seem to be slowly edging towards realizing Matt has nothing to offer anyone, but most will likely never get there.
*Some seem
buttboy69 seems to oscillate between fairly neutral statements and then somewhat more troll-like statements all while trying to appear like he’s not trying to annoy people. I can’t really figure out the point. Maybe I’m reading too much into your comments, but isn’t it pretty obvious that this is a blog about horrible shit typical MRA-types write on the internet and Matt Forney is a fairly well known (as far as the MRA goes) blogger, so it seems to stand to reason that he would be featured here on many occasions.
@Brooked
Isn’t it unbelievable that even the ones detracting from him do so because they don’t think his points make them seem quite manly enough? I.e. the tactics either make them too girly or they don’t make the girl submissive enough.
cupisnique – yeah, buttboil’s reading like trolls we’ve had before. I don’t know if he’s a sock, but this fakery’s familar.
I guess I’m a misandrist because if I were a divorce lawyer and my client’s ex so much as commented on that vile post, I’d tap dance my way to court.
Unfortunately, many women respond quite favorably to such treatment, which is why it is promoted.
I think buttboy’s a sock. Although he is also a redditor, so if he’s a sock at least he’s being consistent with his fake identity.
…that guide is the closest thing I’ve seen to pure evil in long, long time…
Sam, the fact that abusers are able to successfully manipulate people (male and female) doesn’t mean the behavior isn’t abusive.
Citation needed
As far as I can tell, David is pointing out that Matt is a particularly loathsome alt right worm who’s never publicly made one positive contribution to society because he’s too busy being a terrible person via his blog. The first sentence of David’s post is just factual reporting, albeit with a memorable turn of phrase (“the attention-seeking human stain”).
“Unfortunately, many women respond quite favorably to such treatment, which is why it is promoted.”
Define “favorably” in this context?
Never said it wasn’t abusive. Just that it works and it says a lot. One would think that a woman would get very much into kind, sensitive and caring men, but this is generally not the case.
“It really sucks that you are surrounded by misogynist. I know there are places where that is the norm, but please believe me when I say there are places that aren’t like that.”
I’ve lived in three states in the USA, and each has been progressively better, but, I’m still not seeing a lot of “good” around me.
“Also, they hate women, but they love the idea of an unpaid servant and/or sex slave. So if they can use these techniques to turn a woman into one, then they’re happy.”
Anton Lavey wrote of sex androids. I think that that may be the better option for some people…
@ Sam
Here, I got you this.
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How stupid are you? Forney’s a repellent and mockable misogynist and that’s what this blog’s about. There are plenty of repeat offenders in the posts (Elam, Roosh, etc, etc).
Yes, but he doesn’t seem to despise them quite as much. He comes out with uncharacteristically venomous language whenever Forney’s the subject. I was simply wondering why.
And what it says is, “abusers are major assholes.”
And so are you, Sam.