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Evo Psych Sunday: “Women have an amorality similar to lower evolved animals that steal.”

Prehistoric women gathering foodstuffs.
Prehistoric women gathering foodstuffs.

So over on MGTOWforums — the festering hive of misogyny that is the internet’s largest forum for so-called Men Going Their Own Way — one of the regulars was so impressed with the Evo-Psychy insights of a YouTube commenter by the name of Moe that he decided to share them with the gang there. And I have decided to share them with you.

Brace yourself, though, because Moe is bringing some hardcore SCIENCE to the topics of feminism being awful and why women are such terrible selfish child-murdering monsters.

Moe starts off with some MGTOW basics:

Feminism is a natural development of women’s desire to hate, manipulate, exploit, and discriminate against men for women’s personal gain.

Yes, Moe, but why?

Women do not and cannot love men.

Dang. That’s rough.

Women only like gathering stuff, because they are biologically driven to gather as much stuff as possible. Women actually get an emotional rush from buying stuff and receiving stuff. They do not get the same rush from creating, achieving, or earning stuff.

Oh, because cavewomen were gatherers! You can’t argue with SCIENCE like that. Mostly because it isn’t science. It’s just words arranged in such a way that they sound vaguely like science to people who have no idea what science is.

Women see men as their competitors (advisories) and providers of resources. This all means women have an amorality similar to lower evolved animals that steal or do anything possible to procure resources.

Uh, so pretty much all animals then? I mean, evolutionarily speaking, animals basically need to do two things: they need to survive and reproduce, and eating is sort of essential to the first task.

Also, if you’re trying to relate womens’ interest in buying things with their role as gatherers in hunter-gatherer societies, wouldn’t that mean that men would be similarly interested in killing and eating stuff? How is killing and eating animals any less amoral than, you know, picking berries?

The government provides them with an opportunity to force employers, all men, their men (yes they like to cuckold), education institutions, and even other women to provide for them.

Wait, how did we get from gathering to cuckolding?

IMO Many women do not feel the need to have children. When big daddy government will take care of women from birth to death, then women will have less or no child(ren). Children were just an old age policy for women: something to use when their man-slave dropped dead.

Yeah, women carefully arranged all that pregnancy and childbirth stuff with Mother Nature — also a woman! — so they’d have children and grandchildren to sponge off of.

Women also used to practice infanticide overwhelmingly on little girls throughout history, because those little girls provided less future utility (use) to the the woman. Also boys are easier to manipulate and will be needed asap if their man-slaves drops dead quickly.

So, killing girls is actually a form of discrimination against … men.

The modern divorce laws in western nations also allow women to get the greatest utility from the ex-husband through holding the child(ren) hostage, while having multiple new men to exploit for even more resources and other benefits. This is the reason for the high divorce rate. Women do not want or need men, and given the option they will be happier acquiring more stuff from government, multiple men, and the babies daddy.

Never mind that welfare payments are dinky and that roughly 30% of custodial mothers don’t receive any of the child support money they’re owed.

The real fatal flaw of feminism, all women doing this in mass creates a situation where the population declines, while the welfare system increases. These women are illogical, because they just assume: men will continue to put up with their shit … .

Oh, dear. Is the apocalypse near at hand? I have the strange feeling that the apocalypse is near at hand.

Well, welcome to the new reality women: almost 25% of you will never be married. Discriminating against men pisses them off and drives them from education and work, so your hypergamous needs will be unfulfilled. The single men will produce less, so the government will receive less. Employers will leave the country, in order to flee high regulations, taxation, and lower productivity female employees.

And here it comes, right on schedule!

Women have less desire to produce as much as men, so they are inefficient employees in comparison. Lower standards and female accommodations also lower business productivity, and increase costs.

Oh no! Damn those lazy women.

Hey, while you’re at it, can you work lazy brown people into the mix somehow?

The government will increase immigration, because it needs more slaves to pay the growing women’s needs, but the new slaves are of a different culture that does not value the 40-60 hour week westernize male slave system. Also, the immigrants will take full advantage of your welfare system more so than the natives.

Thanks! Misogyny and racism, two great tastes that taste great together!

Welcome to a diminishing economy, where less men will give a shit about women. Your wants will increase, but the resources will decrease. Haha I am going to love seeing the world turn to shit in the next few years!

Well, I guess we can’t argue with SCIENCE.

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shayla
shayla
7 years ago

I believe the idea is that she’s HAWT and all you want her to do is the second.

They wouldn’t care if she was an asshole.

Yeah it’s this, these types really couldn’t care less about the person living inside the body they’re trying to get. Her personality, her feelings, her comfort level? Nah. Those things are just obstacles and inconveniences on the way to getting sex.

10knives
10knives
7 years ago

Exactly how HAWT can someone who’s a vicious sneak be?

Pulling teeth without painkillers doesn’t magically become more bearable if the dentistry tools are gilded and polished.

As for the blowjob…well, are psudeo-predatory misanthropes usually sexually skilled? I would wager no.

pecunium
7 years ago

10Knives: They don’t think about what she might think. They don’t really see her as a person, with wants, needs, desires, intellect.

They aren’t running these scripts and approaches to get to know her, they are working on the Nintendo theory of Sexuality. If, so they think, they say the right things, in the right order, from the proper initial conditions then the “female” will just decide she wants to fuck.

Which is a huge part of why they are such persistent assholes; when one approach fails it’s not because they were jerks whom the woman didn’t want, it’s that they misread which technique she was going to fall for. So if negging her doesn’t work, then it must be time to negg her boyfriend. If that doesn’t work it’s time to, “kino escalate”. If that’s not enough then they think they need to move onto, “isolating” her, etc.

Because it’s not about her, she’s just a tally-mark on the way to the “respect” of their PUA Peers.

pecunium
7 years ago

valyt: I think you are right about FPS games. I’m so-so at them; mostly because I can’t see what’s going on where I want to look (that and a lot of them require stupid levels of frontal assault; where the trick is to take huge amounts of damage; “heal” and do it again).

Fibinachi
7 years ago

Well one large part of it is the ability to utterly ignore personality, and it’s influence on anything. So someone who has a vicious, insulting mean streak can still be considered “hot” because their deeply flawed, insensitive and nasty ways are just ignored.

Yeah, it makes me confused too.

What I find more interesting about the whole “Pick someone’s partner apart” gambit is the way it just reveals so much about the mental process that goes into it.

ie:

“Hi. Your boyfriend is not good. He is worse than me. Spend time with me. Not because I am better, but because he is worse.”

It’s not about being more charming, or more fun, or more interesting, or more sexual, or more seductive, or more anything, in such a way that you can conceivably sweep someone off their feet by the sheer joy you bring with your company and lovely ways, because to that mindset the idea of interesting, good people don’t exist. It’s about everyone else being worse, and you being a momentary respite from a life of misery ( added into a nicely ordered hierarchy of people always being on a scale of lower or higher, and this being in absolute rather than nuanced terms, but I digress)

So it’s not about the PuA being a charming, interesting person worth spending time with, it’s about the PuA framing things in such a way as the prey-woman having to sleep with him, because if she doesn’t, she’s missing out on her one chance at happiness and will spend the rest of her life as a hollow, miserable person. That’s where all the bloody negs come from as well, the disqualifying, the jabs and jeers, it’s all about emotional roughhousing until such a point where someone needs to sleep with someone else for validation, because the rest of the world sucks so much and I’m offering you a way out for a bit.

Until you get too old, like 20. Then I’m dumping you.

sigh

robocorn
robocorn
7 years ago

@10knives

Cracked had an article where someone tried to make the most unappealing okcupid profile with the image of an attractive woman as the profile picture. They still drew in people who were unfazed by violent and incoherent comments the fake account spewed.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-things-i-learned-from-worst-online-dating-profile-ever/

The conclusion may be that these kind of people only value women as sexual objects and have no intention of paying attention to their personalities at all.

tcwill00
tcwill00
7 years ago

I’m so-so at them; mostly because I can’t see what’s going on where I want to look (that and a lot of them require stupid levels of frontal assault; where the trick is to take huge amounts of damage; “heal” and do it again).

I’m less accurate with the thumbstick on a console controller than I am with the mouse, but that’s a small quibble when I’m playing a late-model Medal of Honor game and watching my paratrooper shake off those MG42 bullets like I’m feckin’ Wolverine. Somehow that’s more jarring to my suspension of disbelief than health pickups scattered all over.

Maybe that’s it. Logan was in WWII (possibly also WWI but I digress). Every MoH protag has got to be The Wolverine.

eli
eli
7 years ago

What was that article from a couple of weeks ago? A woman tried to be as offensive as she could to dissuade suitors on a dating site. She had a friend who was a model and borrowed a pic for her profile.

She said she would spermjack them. She did offer to pull some teeth from some guy, I believe.

But they didn’t back down or get scared away.

It looks like you just don’t have much in common with those people, 10knives.

vaiyt
7 years ago

It’s funny, because the FPS genre got where it is by going the opposite way of its big daddy, Doom. The mechanics of Doom are dodging-based; the key to becoming a decent player is realizing you can outmaneuver basically everything. Every game that followed decided to base their mechanics on tanking hits instead.

gillyrosebee
7 years ago

Hey, how much of that 25% of women who won’t get married actually WOULD get married if we could achieve universal marriage equality?

I’ll confess that I’m confused, though… I *thought* I was experiencing an ’emotional rush’ (funny, I thought it was pride, but that could be the exhaustion talking) from creating a small business, achieving a wide customer base and earning money to pour back into it to keep it running (not to mention spending cash for the bottled water, designer handbags and SCENTED FUCKING CANDLES) but apparently I’m just feeling that because I’m gathering stuff? I mean, I don’t even like shopping very much (unless we’re talking about shopping for books, and I’ve been too busy for a lot of reading lately), so how does that work?

Ally S
7 years ago

Man, I really need to play the first two Dooms again.

Falconer
7 years ago

The mechanics of Doom are dodging-based; the key to becoming a decent player is realizing you can outmaneuver basically everything.

The apex of that kind of game-play, I humbly submit, was Descent and its sequels. I had trouble with one boss until I realized that I could outrun everything he could throw at me, and the problem was getting him in my sights and avoiding his big guns at the same time.

Ally S
7 years ago

@Falconer

You remember Descent, too? Omg. You’re the best.

Xen
Xen
7 years ago

“They do not get the same rush from creating, achieving, or earning stuff.”

BULLSHIT. Nope, I’m not a sculptor or an artist or anything, and I absolutely hate money. BULL.

“Women also used to practice infanticide overwhelmingly on little girls throughout history, because those little girls provided less future utility (use) to the the woman. Also boys are easier to manipulate and will be needed asap if their man-slaves drops dead quickly.”

Gee, I wonder why female infanticide was more prevalent back then, could it be because men valued sons more?

Falconer
7 years ago

Oh man, Descent came free with my family’s first Windows-based PC. We played it over and over and over and always hit a wall somewhere around the 12th level or something.

I bought a copy of all three games off of GOG recently. I was oddly gratified to realize that I still have muscle memory for the first three levels of the first game.

Xen
Xen
7 years ago

Oh and that baby stuff? I’d rather adopt. There’s so many kids out there who don’t have anyone.

Chocolate Coyote
7 years ago

Wait – “natives”.
So he just suggested (unless he’s from teh UK), that the white dudes already here are teh “natives”.

oh dear.

gelar
gelar
7 years ago

I mean, I don’t even like shopping very much (unless we’re talking about shopping for books, and I’ve been too busy for a lot of reading lately), so how does that work?

I was under the impression that I don’t like shopping either, but realized that what is actually happening is that there is such an intense emotional rush of biological fulfillment, my brain interprets it as terror.

cloudiah
7 years ago

I was under the impression that I don’t like shopping either, but realized that what is actually happening is that there is such an intense emotional rush of biological fulfillment, my brain interprets it as terror.

You may be onto something here. I thought I hated shopping too, but clearly I love it so much it is simply overwhelming.

Xen
Xen
7 years ago

Heh, I was just on deviantart and some kid started complaining about how feminists “are always angry like they’re on their period and when they see porn they get upset” only it was in terrible English.
Such a simplistic and ignorant view. I think I’ll forgive them this time, they have no idea.

kittehserf
7 years ago

Every time they threaten to do so I always feel like offering them a compass and a map, since they don’t seem to be able to find their way away from feminist blogs.

Wouldn’t work. These guys are in the “couldn’t find his arse with both hands and a map” category.

kittehserf
7 years ago

10knives:

Perhaps this is too late in the comments to bring up, but that “flirt by tearing down her boyfriends, which she mentions having” PUA strategy sounds really goddamn dumb to me.

I mean, I am a virgin, right? And I am almost completely asocial (even anti-social when I’m mad or sad or sumthin’). So I don’t jack about dating, sex or girls. Never had a girlfriend, ever. Barely flirted much in my 24 years of living, even.

But even I can guesstimate that a girl who eagerly reveals herself to be a spiteful lech who insults random people behind their backs is NOT someone I’d want anywhere close to me, let alone sucking my dick or joining me for a candle light dinner in Paris.

Am I close to sensical here? Are my instincts correct? Anyone agree with me?

Those PUA-types are a questionable lot.

Change that to a woman of fifty and you’re pretty much describing me, and yes, it makes total sense! I don’t want a hateful person in my vicinity, let alone my bed.

amybethwp
amybethwp
7 years ago

@kittehserf and yet, from what I have gathered from my time reading on this site, you have a loving, fulfilling relationship that consists of everything that PUAS and MGTOW discount and even vilify. You seem happy and they seem angry and hateful, almost as though they are looking in the wrong place for the important happiness stuff. I’m probably just internalizing misandry, though.

katz
7 years ago

Those “don’t care what her personality is like” guys must have never actually succeeded at hooking up with one of those women they hate, right? Because if they had, they’d know that, no matter how little you care about another person, it’s definitely still possible for them to ruin a good time.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

Not gonna lie, I have been tempted on numerous occassions to create a fake dating profile account online, using one of our pre-transition glamour shots at the sage of sixteen as the pic, and saying quite clearly on the page, “This is not a real account,” or something, then playing Whack-a-Douche. It’s petty, but…

RE: Brooked

“old school collaging”

O_o Wait, what? My kid sibling does collage, and it’s really cool, but I dunno that I’d call that a post-apocalyptic survival skill… zie can totally decoupage, though!

RE: pecunium

Dammit, you’re making me curious about paintball and nostalgic for laser tag. I’d LOVE to learn some of those tactics; I haven’t played any laser tag since I was a wee bairn.

Marie
Marie
7 years ago

@xen

Heh, I was just on deviantart and some kid started complaining about how feminists “are always angry like they’re on their period and when they see porn they get upset” only it was in terrible English.

Dang, another line or two and I bet I’d fill out troll-bingo 😛 I mean, how many stereotypes can you fit in one sentence?

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

I defy any teenage boy to bleed involuntarily from the genitals and have absolutely no emotional reaction to it.

Also, feminists wouldn’t be so upset about your damn porn if it wasn’t so TERRIBLE.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
7 years ago

lower evolved animals

So sciency.

Many women do not feel the need to have children….Children were just an old age policy for women

Yeah, reproduction has never been a motivator for humans or any other animals.

Employers will leave the country, in order to flee high regulations, taxation, and lower productivity female employees.

What is it with MRAs and Libertarianism? Were they running a two-for-one sale at the Delusion Mart?

Haha I am going to love seeing the world turn to shit in the next few years!

So he’s not even bothering to pretend that his “GHOW” is about anything other than revenge.

Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

Not caught up but…

“But the collaging… might be useful. Art makes decent trade goods, and skills at decoupage can preserve furniture.”

You’re in luck, I’ve done that (hell, I’ve framed houses if 1×3 stage crew ones count), but yeah, I can make a table and finish it solid…at least one of my stage crew benches was still in service as a porch bench 5 years later (idk if it’s still there, could be).

On that note, I have some related gift ideas for your wedding if you don’t tell me what you want. (Not furniture, trust me, I get that you only have room for small things)

Oh and the only FPS I’ve played and not hated was the original Halo, cuz snipers nests. You’d think people would learn to move less predictably (or figure out we’re they were getting sniped from) after the first time. Particularly when playing team games and their buddies were getting sniped doing The Same Damned Thing. If I’m gonna be playing “take damage and heal” give me something melee, preferably either with supernatural healing or straight up magic. (VtM:B has FPS and melee options, only time I’ll play FPS is a couple of spots where it’s just really obnoxious to try closing the distence without cover fire, otherwise it’s “where’s the katana, I want to skewer an asshole”)

Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

Pecunium — I’m also up for some laser tag with you, and throughly expect to get destroyed. I’d say paintball, but I don’t think anyone has a gun I can borrow so laser tag sets are cheaper. Could almost certainly talk my pharm student into it (“hey, it’ll be useful if zombies take over!” would work), so there’s four and four makes a game! I like it.

Bina
Bina
7 years ago

I defy any teenage boy to bleed involuntarily from the genitals and have absolutely no emotional reaction to it.

Also, feminists wouldn’t be so upset about your damn porn if it wasn’t so TERRIBLE.

Bingo. I also defy them to have no emotional reaction to monthly water weight gains, especially in the breasts (owwwww.) And none to the horrendous cramps I’ve been living with since pretty much the get-go. And above all, none to the idiots who keep telling women “oh, it’s all in your pretty little head, you silly feeeemale!”

And yeah…gonzo porn? Facials? Where do they get the idea that we LIKE being treated with indignity? Especially during sex?

kittehserf
7 years ago

amybethwp:

@kittehserf and yet, from what I have gathered from my time reading on this site, you have a loving, fulfilling relationship that consists of everything that PUAS and MGTOW discount and even vilify. You seem happy and they seem angry and hateful, almost as though they are looking in the wrong place for the important happiness stuff. I’m probably just internalizing misandry, though.

Awww

::blushes::

::shuffles feet::

Thank you, and yes!

You’re right, we must both be internalising misandry.

kittehserf
7 years ago

Bina – exactly. If that kid bled from his bits and it hurt half as much as my teenage periods did, he’d be curled up crying at least one day a month.

Extra yes about the porn. I wonder, again, how these boys would like seeing people like themselves subjected to acts that are contextualised as degrading, frightening and painful, and to find those attitudes reflected in everyday life? I guess that’s way too much effort for whinyboy’s imagination, though.

Bina
Bina
7 years ago

I wonder, again, how these boys would like seeing people like themselves subjected to acts that are contextualised as degrading, frightening and painful, and to find those attitudes reflected in everyday life? I guess that’s way too much effort for whinyboy’s imagination, though.

Well, if anyone ever has the temerity to ask me why I’m such a “prude” about the rough stuff, I’ll just parry that with another question: How would HE like it if I grabbed HIM by the hair and sodomized him with a splintery broomstick?

(Still trying to think of an appropriate female equivalent to facial ejaculation. Best I could do is pee on his head.)

kittehserf
7 years ago

Crap on his face, maybe?

Or have a man ejaculate on him. The homophobia element would frighten the bejezus out of him, I’d bet.

Bina
Bina
7 years ago

Yeah, I imagine nothing less than another man’s sploodge in his eye would convince him that most women really don’t relish that prospect any more than he does.

kittehserf
7 years ago

I’m never sure which angers me more: the ones who think we (generally – I know there are exceptions to everything) like that sort of thing, or the ones who want to do it knowing somenone doesn’t like it.

Both varieties need an eyefull of jizz.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
7 years ago

Still trying to think of an appropriate female equivalent to facial ejaculation.

Smear menstrual blood on his face

kittehserf
7 years ago

Ooh, yes!

pecunium
7 years ago

Argenti: Oh and the only FPS I’ve played and not hated was the original Halo, cuz snipers nests. You’d think people would learn to move less predictably (or figure out we’re they were getting sniped from) after the first time.

You’d think they’d do that in paintball too, but no.

True story, friends and I were playing a game in openfield. Lots of regulars who were in “teams” The six of us sort of paired up and James and I were a fire-team. He’d been to basic, but washed out of AIT for medical reasons (got injured, was allowed/told to go home).

We stuck to each other like glue; there was a time we were hiding behind the same tree, and guarding the flag. There were a couple of guys in a blocking position, but they could be suppressed; at which point someone would make a dash under the covering fire, and either James or I would pot them. After six or seven of these the put out some flankers, and popped James. So they laid down some fire, and two of them came hey-diddle-diddle; right up the middle and I shot them.

Game was called for time.

Next game, flag’s in a different place. James and I are hiding in a tangle of bushes, covering the only open approach to the flag. Guys came running in, dead men went walking out. Someone managed to hit me from the backside of the bushes, and I called myself dead. After I walked out, these guys just walked toward the flag, and James took out about half a dozen before someone decided to just lay down a wall of fire into the bushes.

Best part was these guys all had guns with really fast cycle times. When they were laying down suppressive fire/trying to kill us, they were making colored streaks in the air. At a nickel a pop they were spending about a buck at a time to not kill us. I think I fired about 200 rounds all day.

katz
7 years ago

<blockquoteSmear menstrual blood on his face

Oh yeah. These types of guys have such an irrational fear of the stuff. When I was doing custodial work the guys would chip gum off the bottom of school bus seats and mop up sticky urinal floors, but they refused to touch the little trash cans in the ladies’ rooms.

kittehserf
7 years ago

A squirt-gun that would work with menstrual blood would be ideal.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
7 years ago

@katz, right? Some men have such a visceral loathing of menstruation, like the mere thought of it makes them unclean. Meanwhile, their genital excretions are liquid gold…

kittehserf
7 years ago

Yeah, the WonderSemen™ that comes out the same orifice as urine.

… Is that neverlaidinNYCoranywhereelse’s problem? He thinks piss is spooge?

eli
eli
7 years ago

I think most water guns would work just fine with menstrual blood given a non-absorbent collection device 🙂

kittehserf
7 years ago

I’d hate to have to reload on the run, though. 😛

eli
eli
7 years ago

Some lurid and amusing visuals are coursing through my brain!

Not to mention having to sit around and wait for new ammo! (at my age that could be 6-10 weeks, lol)

buttboy69
buttboy69
7 years ago

I had never heard of MGTOWforums before. Wow. Those guys are a piece of work.

Bina
Bina
7 years ago

I’m never sure which angers me more: the ones who think we (generally – I know there are exceptions to everything) like that sort of thing, or the ones who want to do it knowing somenone doesn’t like it.

Both varieties need an eyefull of jizz.

Hell yes. Especially the latter. A double eyeful for THEM.

Smear menstrual blood on his face

Oh! Yes. Or demand that he go down on you at That Time Of The Month. And refuse to take no for an answer.

cloudiah
7 years ago

Well, buttboy, given your usual m.o., I bet you’ll soon find some supposed nugget of reasonableness there. And then you’ll try to prove how reasonable it is by dropping unrelated links here.