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The “Tell Her Her Soul Is Dog Sh*t” dude declares that I’m a “misogyny pimp.”

If Jason Gregory were this adorable, it would be hard to stay mad at him
If Jason Gregory were this adorable kitty, it would be hard to stay mad at him

Hey, everybody!

So you remember that post a couple of days ago, that one in which I quoted Jason Gregory’s most peculiar dating advice for angry men? You know, the one in which he suggested that men rebuff women who are interested in them with a long and rather nasty assortment of misogynistic insults? You know, like these:

Tell her that she isn’t interesting, that her soul is dog-shit and that she has nothing to offer other than boobs and booty, that she is a piece of shit and a total failure as a human being, that you don’t find her attractive and that she isn’t even good enough to be a cum-bucket.

And he went on like that for several more sentences. You can read the whole quote in my original piece, or in his original post on A Voice for Men.

Well, it turns out I totally misinterpreted Jason Gregory’s post, according to an unbiased and neutral outside observer named Jason Gregory, no relation to the original Jason Gregory, who’s written a post about it on his blog.

Hold on, I’m being told that this second Jason Gregory is in fact also the first Jason Gregory.

Anyway, according to Jason Gregory, even though Jason Gregory did explicitly tell men to “tell her … that her soul is dog-shit” he didn’t really mean to tell men to “tell her … that her soul is dog-shit.”

No, he only hypothetically meant this. He was just trying to suggest was how mean the ladies are when they turn down men.

What he was really trying to express, he now says, was that

men need to learn self-respect and to value their selves in totality—including the importance of valuing their sexuality.

Pretty weird how that came out in the original post as

Tell her that she isn’t interesting, that her soul is dog-shit and that she has nothing to offer other than boobs and booty, that she is a piece of shit and a total failure as a human being, that you don’t find her attractive and that she isn’t even good enough to be a cum-bucket.

But, he insists, his aim was really quite noble. As he explains now, he wasn’t just trying to stand up for the dignity of men — he was trying to protect women from having their inboxes filled with dick-pics.

I wrote that men should stop giving away cock like it’s worthless. Perhaps if men valued their sexuality, they’d be less inclined to inundate women with emails, messages, and pick-up lines. Perhaps if men actually valued their sexuality, the ladies at Jezebel wouldn’t be so inclined to complain about all the free-cock oppression. Perhaps if men actually valued their sexuality, men wouldn’t degrade themselves by harassing, begging, and inundating women with dick pics and pleas for their attention and affection.

Indeed, he went on to argue, it was not he who was the real misogynist, but me. J’Accuse!

This might seem a hard case to make, what with the whole “tell her … her soul is dog-shit” bit and numerous other remarks in his original post, like, for example, his description of women who actually enjoy sex:

You may be able to find a few coked-up girls who really get into it—the kind of girls who end up with sweaty hair, mascara, and cum dripping down their cheeks, but those girls usually have emotional disorders and are simply trying to bury their emotional problems in various sorts of drug induced escapes.

And who can forget his suggestion that men make their dates “pay for a juicy sirloin to replace all the jizzed-out protein” they cause to be jizzed out?

But apparently I am the true misogynist because I ran my post making fun of him during my pledge drive. Which makes me a “misogyny pimp.”

This is where the mocking of misogyny becomes misogyny. He doesn’t care about the women who bother to read his blog. Though he may have a few days in which he invites women and other commenters to share and cry about their troubles, any good pimp knows the importance of faking like he cares. Any good pimp knows how to manipulate the emotions of “his bitches.” …

[H]e doesn’t care about why men are sending dick pics and bombarding women with emails and messages through online dating services. He’s not looking for solutions to these problems. He’s not saying that men who do such things may lack self-respect because the value of male sexuality is often viewed as less-than-worthless in our culture.

Wait, what? I don’t care enough about men who harass women so I’m a misogynist?

Exploiting women is a form of misogyny … In this way, Boobz has more in common with an abusive pimp than he has with any heroic slayer of misogyny. Boobz is the misogyny that he mocks. Boobz is a misogyny-pimp.

QED, I guess. Apparently quoting misogynists, mocking misogynists, discussing misogyny, taking notice of misogyny in any way … makes one a misogynist. At least according to a guy who apparently thinks that the only women who really “get into” sex are “coked-up girls” with “emotional disorders” and “cum dripping down their cheeks.”

You’ll notice that last line in Jason’s quote links to a video; that link is from him. It’s a clip from the film Bad Santa. As Jason makes a point of mentioning several times, that’s where he got the “your soul is dog shit” line.

But if you watch the clip you’ll notice one thing about that line, in its original context in the film — it’s not surrounded by a paragraph full of vile misogynistic abuse. Nope, that stuff is all Jason Gregory.

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Ally S
10 years ago

I wonder if bad shounen anime is what has caused MRAs to feel that rejection is intensely hostile. I mean, stuff like Love Hina must be some kind of form of validation and support for their already shitty beliefs.

Ally S
10 years ago

On that note: Love Hina is really, really not worth watching.

shayla
shayla
10 years ago

It really puzzles me, how do people like this seem to stake their entire happiness and ego on our acceptance/rejection of them – while simultaneously hating us and barely regarding us as human?

Ally S
10 years ago

Also, I’d say that the ultimate MRA anime is Great Teacher Onizuka. I watched when I was 15 and thought it was good…until I realized that the entire anime was centered around a man in his late 20s preying on middle school girls (yes, middle school) and defending boys from false allegations of sexual assault. Never again will I watch it unless I want to try finding the most reprehensible parts of the series (an endeavor that seems fruitless).

justabrowngirl
justabrowngirl
10 years ago

cassandrakitty, I guess he doesn’t realize (woman’s) are not obligated to indulge his entitled attitude…I say let him cried it out like we do with bratty kids when having a fit.

eli
eli
10 years ago

Hey shayla, did you see how you got featured on r/mr?

eli
eli
10 years ago

[H]e doesn’t care about why men are sending dick pics and bombarding women with emails and messages through online dating services. He’s not looking for solutions to these problems.

How on earth does a campaign telling men to “just say no” to sending dick picks to punish women for rejecting them make any sense if he knows women are being bombarded with them and calls it a problem?

deniseeliza
deniseeliza
10 years ago

I’ve been told “no” by a man more than once.

That is a LIE!!!!!

No man has ever turned down a woman ever, in any situation!!!!!!!!

A woman can get any man in the universe!!!!

Except Jason, who values his sexuality.

justabrowngirl
justabrowngirl
10 years ago

deniseeliza, true story…us woman are swimming in a sea of penisies.

justabrowngirl
justabrowngirl
10 years ago

Ugh! just gave myself a horrible mental image with that comment.

skybison
skybison
10 years ago

Jason’s projecting so hard he could point his head at a wall and show off powerpoint presentations.

grumpycatisagirl
grumpycatisagirl
10 years ago

Why do they always presume telling us “no” upsets so . . . Jason is more than welcome to tell me “no.” l’d like to save my money and not get his sweat all over me.

moldybrehd
10 years ago

@justabrowngirl, I think you gave us all a horrible mental image with that comment, lol. I’m sort of picturing it like a field of wheat fluttering in the breeze, only pinker.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I was picturing mutant hentai seaweed.

justabrowngirl
justabrowngirl
10 years ago

moldybrehd, sorry, I think is the NyQuil taking effect.

serrana
serrana
10 years ago
thebewilderness
thebewilderness
10 years ago

I was expending a great deal of effort not to picture anything whatsoever.

skybison
skybison
10 years ago

Is it like living in an H R Giger painting?

moldybrehd
10 years ago

It’s all good. Though now I’m thinking sea anemone, but those are so pretty, I can enjoy the pictures!

eli
eli
10 years ago

Ok. I feel much better knowing that the coke-addled sluts got all that semen on their cheeks from swimming through the sea of penises.

(No offense intended to people who like getting it on their cheeks in other ways)

justabrowngirl
justabrowngirl
10 years ago

serrana, awesome signal! Now going to hit the bed…getting drowsy. Nite!

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

The word “bukkake” just came to mind.

serrana
serrana
10 years ago

Good night, justabrowngirl!

It really puzzles me, how do people like this seem to stake their entire happiness and ego on our acceptance/rejection of them – while simultaneously hating us and barely regarding us as human?

Shayla, I suspect people like this really despise themselves.

But it’s not our job to fix that.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

If someone wants me to try to fix their self-esteem issues that will be $200 an hour, and they will need to be aware that the protocols of the doctor-patient relationship mean that sex is out of the question.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

Did somebody call for cats?

http://imgur.com/a/fqtg8