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So over on A Voice for Men, young Jason Gregory seems faintly jealous that young women who put up dating profiles online tend to get flooded with messages — and the occasional dick pic — from horny guys.
F]ree cock is everywhere. Men give it away like it’s worthless. … I doubt that it is unusual at all for a woman to get 300 messages in her inbox from men who are desperate for female affection, approval, and sex. There is no doubt in my mind that men send “dick-pics” and clamor, bother, and sometimes harass women for their affections and attentions.
But Jason feels no sympathy for young women who put up profiles hoping to meet some nice young fellow who’s also into Sherlock and Neil Gaiman and Indian food and instead get messages from guys who introduce themselves by expressing a desire to ejaculate in their hair.
No, Jason is angry because he’s convinced all these offers of “free cock” only serve to make the women of the world into snooty-stuck stuck-up so-and-sos who think they’re all that and a folder full of dick pics.
All you men who give it away, all you do is reinforce the entitlement mentality of women who believe that their being present is plenty. You reinforce the idea that women don’t owe anything to the relationship—that they deserve a free-ride of cocks and that they don’t even have to break a sweat.
Jason, I should add, means this last bit literally. He’s resentful that when he allegedly engages in the act of coitus he has to do all the work while his alleged partners allegedly lie there like inflatable love-dolls.
Anyhoo,.Jason has a plan to take these stuck-up ladies down a peg or two: A cock strike.
Yep, he wants men to start saying “no” to women who are interested in them, just to see how they like it. But he doesn’t want them to just say no. He wants them to be giant dicks about it.
Try telling a girl no. Tell her, after she makes it clear that she wants your cock, that you’re not interested in giving it to her. Tell her that she isn’t interesting, that her soul is dog-shit and that she has nothing to offer other than boobs and booty, that she is a piece of shit and a total failure as a human being, that you don’t find her attractive and that she isn’t even good enough to be a cum-bucket. Tell her that she is never going to be any good at sucking cock and that she needs to stop pretending that she is doing any favors and learn to compensate for her inadequacies by becoming “kinky.” Tell her that her vapid life of shoes and pop-culture and materialism are soulless pursuits of dog-shit. Watch what happens. If you Jez-ladies wanna know what “hostile” means, see this rejected woman.
Emphasis mine.
A Voice for Men, you may recall, sees itself as leading the most important civil rights movement of the 21st century. I am sure Jason Gregory’s post here will be remembered alongside Martin Luther King’s Letter from a Birmingham Jail as a classic in civil rights literature.
EDIT: I added a couple more “allegedlys” to a sentence I thought needed them.
OMG, just read that Reddit message about cum-in-the-hair. Some guys… >headshake<
@kitteh
I know you keep saying it’s just your opinion, but you still sound really judgemental of other people’s preferences.
Kitteh,
Sometimes I feel a little guilt because of how hard I laugh at these ass holes. Because they are serious and its really sad and pathetic .But I can’t help it because it just too absurdly funny .
Kind of like when your toddler throws a melt down tazmanian fit ?And its really bad behavior and it not really “funny” but you find your self having to turn your head and laugh (where they cant see ) because its just like hilarious to watch them wear themselves out having the pity meltdown ? Except these are supposedly grown men and they are talking about their cocks and getting laid ….
AIT and LBT,
Thank you for coming to that man’s aid. *HUGS*
…and you too Freemage. *HUGS*
“Some of the AVFM commenters — all of whom seem to love his post — think that women secretly love getting dick pics.”
They also think we only want to be sent rape fantasies
“A lot of women just post profiles just to recive validation. A lot of females shot men down in a hostile manner.
Why are you upset about men not reading your profile? Why should they? Long thought out messages do not increase the chance of a reply.
Demanding long thought out messages is entitled. The females who demand them still ignore them anyway.
If I still used online dating I would just copy and paste rape fantasies. Only thing that worked for me. (I strongly advise never to do this! Would never do this now.)
I was so desperate for female attention at the time I gave them what they wanted. (Remembering how desperate I was is quite embarrassing now.)
Online dating was my first step towards taking the red pill. It helped break my female worship.”
Like WHAT!?! I just don’t even….
I think your overall point is valid. But you know there’s at least one guy out there doing this.
True. The internet has taught me that however unlikely a given behavior seems, there’s bound to be someone out there somewhere doing it right now.
Kim, when it comes to men using things to replicate women, yeah, that is my gut reaction and it is judgemental, because it sets all my alarm bells going. I don’t think it operates in a vacuum and like Cassandra said, I don’t think a doll can be called a sex toy like a fleshlight or dildo.
I don’t have the same attitude towards giving objects more agency, I mean I don’t think I would do it, but I’m not sure it’s that abnormal. I think a real person would be healthier, but if they are able to make a connection that allows them not to spew hatred onto the rest of the world because they are lonely it seems like a good thing to me.
The men over at AVfM and RoK have dehumanized women so much that it’s impossible for them to realize that just like men, women are individuals with different wants and needs. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a minority of women who enjoy getting dick pics and have rape fantasies. (I’m not one of them, by the way). How the preferences of a few women makes it ok for Jason Gregory to treat all women like dirt is beyond me. I just don’t understand men like that.
Oh, and by the way, I just posted a critical comment over at Jugdybitch’s website. Maybe it won’t happen, but I’m preparing to be doxxed soon and get a load of hate emails and Facebook posts. I guess I’ll just have to deal with it. It’s the price I pay for pissing someone in the Manosphere off. But I just couldn’t remain silent.
cupisnique, yikes. And of course that comment gets nothing but upvotes from other AVFMers. That’s right, a dude confesses that he used to sexually harass women on dating sites by sending them rape fantasies, and the other guys there are all like, “yeah, you’re right, those gals on dating sites are all a bunch of stuck up bitches.”
The issue I have with a lot of the guys who have Real Dolls is that if anything it seems to reinforce their sense of entitlement to spew angry misogynistic crap at women, which seems to be related to their belief that a doll is a perfectly adequate substitute for a woman, which tells you something about how they see women. The personification of the dolls seems to be intertwined with the fury about the fact that women have agency, is what I’m saying.
The thought of doxxing gives me serious chills. It’s scary that it really is an effective means of silencing people because of how much it disrupts a person’s life. I mean our lives are so connected to the internet it’s not like you are just ruining one part of their life. You are literally interfering with every aspect of it.
@cassandra that may be valid, I think there are people that form connections with inanimate objects, not just misogynists. Seems like it is a condition of some kind, although I am obviously not an expert. I’ve just seen random TLC episodes of like “my weird obsession” or what not where the guy is in love with his car etc.
Oops I mean auggz! how did I mess that up?
Oh, nevermind I just got confused ahaha I did mean cassandra… omg… I swear I’m not on drugs.
Yeah, and I’m not sure that there’s any overlap between the “my Real Doll is better than a real woman because she doesn’t talk back, so fuck you ladies!” guys and the ones who tend to personify objects in general.
“Oh, and by the way, I just posted a critical comment over at Jugdybitch’s website. Maybe it won’t happen, but I’m preparing to be doxxed soon and get a load of hate emails and Facebook posts. I guess I’ll just have to deal with it. It’s the price I pay for pissing someone in the Manosphere off. But I just couldn’t remain silent.”
Good luck but they probably won’t listen.
Also, personifying something that looks like a woman, and seeing it as a substitute for a woman, doesn’t seem like quite the same thing as personifying say a car, because cars that are also people with agency don’t exist, but women do.
cassandrakitty, I feel like I fell down the rabbit hole…these doll actually exist? I need to get out more often.
But there are perfectly nice people out there who just have a robot/android fetish or whatever, and your completely justified disgust with MRAs who dehumanise women is getting all over them as well.
I love this comment by an AVfMer it’s priceless:
“My favorite hobby used to be go to a bar with friends to play some darts and dance, I’d chat up some girl and then when friends were ready to go home just said “Nice talking with you, see ya”
The flash of rage across women’s faces when I “turned them down”, even if I told them right from the start I’m not here to pick up anyone (they rarely believe me), and they can’t do shit as I’ve been a perfect gentleman and my friends and the bar owner (who knew me) are right there.
PRICELESS.
And when I say rage, I mean barely contained RED BOILING RAGE. (make sure your witnesses… err, friends, are there and people clearly see you leave alone with your male friends, or seriously don’t do this. )”
1. How is that your FAVOURITE hobby? Seriously…
2. What do you think they would do to you for not taking them home, that they were prevented from doing because you were friends with the owner?
3. I’ve had experiences where I’ve chatted with a guy or guys at a bar and nothing became explicitly or implicitly sexual, yeah I was trying to flirt and it was seeming to go over their heads and eventually I said well.. guess I’m gonna get the bus home, thanks for the evening guys! Was I disappointed? Yes. Did I seethe and boil with rage? Um, nope.
Any “your kink is not my kink but your kink is okay” is nudged into second place by a Gift of Fear type of extreme wariness as far as this is concerned.
I read an article recently . LOTS of people “personify” their car. And a car can represent more to someone that just a necessity . To the extent a car payment on average is paid first over and above other necessities like rent/mortgage/ or health insurance if one has to be late .
A car for many represents “freedom” .