So the Men’s Rights movement has faced some setbacks in the past. The Southern Poverty Law Center profiling them as a movement filled with hate (if not literally a hate group by the SPLC’s strict definition). Events that literally no one showed up to. Paul Elam.
But MRAs have never faced anything quite like this.
Wil Wheaton — yes, that Wil Wheaton, the one who was on Star Trek TNG — has stated publicly that he thinks they’re a bunch of idiots:
https://twitter.com/wilw/status/348291001481310208
Naturally, this tweet has the fellas in the Men’s Rights subreddit feeling hurt and angry. Well, they always feel hurt and angry, so I guess I mean they feel even more hurt and angry than usual, with a lot of this hurt and anger directed in a Wil-Wheatony direction.
Here are some of their comments. I don’t really have any jokes to make about them because, I mean, just read them. I can’t top this sort of ridiculousness.
Click on the individual comments to see them in context on Reddit. Oh, and note that this comment at the top has MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED UPVOTES.
![giegerwasright 119 points 7 hours ago (150|31) Wil Wheaton has never had to live life as a regular man. He has never been treated by women as a regular man. He is a privileged white male. All those things that feminists say that white men have that we recognize are actually really only reserved for rich white men? Well. He's a rich white male. So. What do you expect? Perspective? LOL. He has media to sell and pussy to pander to for approval, hanglowstankin, and profit. permalink source save give gold hide child comments [–]cfornax 63 points 7 hours ago (82|17) Ironic isn't it. He undermines men to elevate his privileged status in eyes of feminists who wish to undermine his privileged status. permalink source save parent give gold [–]giegerwasright 39 points 7 hours ago (53|17) And that, my dear lad, is how the wealthy mangina maintains his status. Key word being "wealthy", a distinction that the unfortunately unwealthy manginas don't recognize. Always. Follow. The money.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/geiger2.png?resize=580%2C365&ssl=1)
Wait. What is “hanglowstankin?” Oh, never mind.
Also, I would bet a mint-in-box Wesley Crusher action figure that Wheaton didn’t call you guys “idiots” because he wanted to pander to “pussy” but rather because you are the sorts of guys who routinely refer to women as “pussy.”
![ruboos [-2] 10 points 7 hours ago (16|6) Wil Wheaton has always been a self hating misandrist. I've never liked him. And his narration is atrocious. Listen to "Ready Player One" if you don't believe me. The dude is a joke. Thank you for calling him out in public. He has no excuse.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/narration.png?resize=580%2C101&ssl=1)
![AnotherDAM 14 points 7 hours ago (24|10) Just because someone is famous in one context does not make him an expert in any, or every, other context. The man made a decent beer with Stone Brewing, he is incredibly practiced at talking with people so don't expect to win a war of words with him or out "cool" him. Just point out to him that he has had everything handed to him on a silver platter his entire adult life ~ he doesn't need to worry about money or getting girls or an invite to the uber-cool CES ~ does not actually mean his opinion matters to anyone but himself. He will eventually get it when all of his male friends start dying decades before his female admirers. permalink source save give gold hide child comments [–]VortexCortex [+1] 4 points 3 hours ago (5|1) I would merely appeal to his sense of logic: "There's much evidence to the contrary, Wheaton; You have not tried try to refute the null hypothesis before holding your belief." Not that it would actually work -- He's an actor who once played a young scientist -- but many of his viewers practice rationality.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/dyingrational.png?resize=580%2C327&ssl=1)
But Wil had one defender amongst the Men’s Rightsers:
![chocoboat 6 points 5 hours ago (25|19) Wil is still cool. He just got misinformed by some feminists, who in an effort to protect their privilege, smear the name of MRAs and fight against equality when it doesn't serve them. He was taught that MRA = a whiny bitch who wants a return to 1950s gender roles and can't stand women having any power over anything. Of course he thinks that kind of person is an idiot. Don't bash Wil, bash the people who misinformed him. I can virtually guarantee you that he would support the same pro-equality ideas that MRAs do, and that he's against the sexist situations that men sometimes run into (such as being arrested after calling police when your wife attacks you, or being made to change airline seats due to "every man is a pedophile" hysteria). permalink source save give gold hide child comments [–]Zetadood 17 points 4 hours ago (23|4) Nah, no one gets a pass for misinformed ignorance. If he changes his views later on that's different, until then he's a tool.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/wilcool.png?resize=580%2C326&ssl=1)
EDIT: H/T to the AgainstMensRighters for pointing me to this.
he doesn’t need to worry about money, or getting girls
Actor benefits from hypergamy
That pretty much sums up the whole MRA movement.
Are these people getting mad at this just now? I mean, the guy posted this tweet in June of 2013. And now they bitch?
Yes more black males in poverty = poorer nutrition ,less access to healthcare, and at more risk to die by violence .
They have trouble keeping up with the times.
Yeah they are too busy to read the news out hunting the mammoth for all us wominz.
I remember when I was living in the US, there was a TV report that said that women who drank wine lived longer than women who drank beer. Its conclusion was that women who drank beer should stop doing so and start drinking wine. /facepalm
I thought if you didn’t have to worry about getting money or girls, you’re an alpha.
Seems like that would be pretty alpha-y.
This isn’t the first time Wil Wheaton has run afoul of misogynists and dudebros. When he blasted the dudebro (Ryan Perez) writer who worked for Destructoid for attacking (and being a general asshat to) Felicia Day, a few of Perez’s supporters whined about how Wil had become a white-knight mangina, etc.
Thing is, Wil Wheaton gives no fucks. Even though he messes up on occasion, I think he does a good job calling out all the bullshit sexism infesting geek culture.
I thought if you didn’t have to worry about getting money or girls, you’re an alpha.
According to them you can’t be an alpha without being a misogynist and without studying and reciting all the idiotic theories they have come up with.
In Sweden it’s 82,5 years for women and 77 years for men, and the age gap is narrowing down here too. It used to be a bigger difference. I know there are scientists who theorize that higher testosteron levels actually makes you age a bit faster, and that we will therefore be stuck with some kind of age gap even when all other factors have been evened out. Even if that were the case though, I’m sure MRA:s would still somehow think it was because of misandry. Maybe they’d consider that proof that God exists and is female, or something.
There was great movement at MRA headquarters: “A minor celebrity calls us idiots. Let’s show how strong our movement is by calling him names. That will win people over to our cause”
Seriously, they don’t even try, do they? This is how you can tell the legitimate civil rights groups from the people who just want to throw shit everywhere, achieving nothing. The legitimate ones actually try to convince people to support them, the poo slingers just expect everyone will change their mind.
I mean, imagine if Coke did marketing the way MRAs approached recruitment: “Drink Coke. Because if you drink Pepsi, you are a mangina, a hater of men, and will see most of your family and friends die”
Women in Canada live 5% longer than men. That’s it. Not even 1/2 decade longer.
I don’t work with people but, in the species I do work with, the difference is MUCH greater and bull orca aren’t killing themselves because they can’t afford child support or receiving substandard medical care compared to their ladyorca counterparts. They’re dying of natural causes or as a result of human interactions, just as the females are. MRAs desperately want to blame something that’s prevalent throughout the living world on marginalisation and oppression and fail to examine how it could be very natural and normal. If it were the case that men were receiving substandard medical care the gap in life expectancies would likely be much greater.
Dummies.
Are they admitting white male privilege is real? Nope, Apex Fallacy! Checkmate SJW feminazis oppressors.
No, he’s saying that Wheaton is a white male who is also privileged, ie, in the actual legitimate sense of having money.
Oh my, they appear to be calling Mr. Wheaton a rapist now. Rape accusations are activism when you’re an MRA. Except when they’re not. Then they’re misandry.
After having clicked that Urban Dictionary link, I too am sadder but wiser. If MRAsshats think that all a woman amounts to is a smelly residue on somebody’s dick, they don’t deserve to have even that much from her. I hope they die Forever Alone…and there is a good chance that they will.
MarineReachel,
LOL!!!! On the killing themselves ,child support and substandard medical care! You mean the male orcas don’t have a “menorcas rights movement ?” No “menorcas going their own way ?” Nothing ???
But seriously don’t women orcas live to be around 100 and the men orcas only to about 50?
Also I just saw an article I wan’t to do more research but aparrently they are finding that a certain factor in our chromosomes called microRNA that tell our genes what to do and not to do ,play a large role in our immune systems ability to ward off infections and cancer. And much of this microRNA is found in the X chromosome. And women have 2 X ‘s of course.Men only have 1 .
MISANDRY!
“I remember when I was living in the US, there was a TV report that said that women who drank wine lived longer than women who drank beer. Its conclusion was that women who drank beer should stop doing so and start drinking wine. /facepalm”
I hate when people don’t understand statistics. I remember a few years ago there was some thing I read about people who “like” certain things on FB (like Mozart) are smarter than people who don’t. But the way it was worded made it sound like if you like these things you will become smarter, not that smarter people (however that was even determined) might be exposed to more intellectually stimulating things and therefore, more prone to “liking” them on FB.
Oh, Mr. Wheaton, I knew I liked you.
He’d be pretty foolish if he did; we all know what happens to meanies who happen to cross the path of Jessica Fletcher. She may have been a literary legend but I always thought her true genius was finding a new patsy each episode to frame for her crimes.
There was a time, thirty seconds ago, when I didn’t know what hanglowstankin was. I’m wishing I could achieve that state once more.
I’m going to pretend that Hanglowstankin is a former Soviet bloc republic inhabited by fiercely proud desert nomads, with lovely Caspian Sea resorts and large strategic deposits of manganese.
Has it never occurred to the dudes who made up that word that they’re basically announcing to the world that they’re too lazy and/or gross to wash their cocks? Yep, guys, that’ll impress the ladies.
We know male orca can live fifty years and females can live a hundred. Most wild females will live fifty-ish and wild males will live thirty-ish years though. Life in the wild is hard but these numbers are still better than SeaWorld’s stats.
But no, there are no menorca going their own way. Unlike people, orca actually are matriarchal. The calves stay in their matrilines with their moms all their lives. It’s a very common phenomenon for adult males to “disappear” after their matriarch dies, if they have no sisters to take on the role. An interesting example where this wasn’t the case is the A36 matriline. The matriarch had three male calves, A32, A37, and A46. She passed away around fifty and they were left without any female presence. A12, matriarch of the A12 matriline, lost all her adult sons. She left her own matriline, which at the time consisted of her daughter, daughter’s offspring and daughter’s offspring’s offspring, leaving her daughter as the A12 matriline’s new matriarch, and joined ranks with the living boys of the A36 matriline.
Wil Wheaton reblogged this on his Tumblr today, shaming something called the Sacramento Pick-Up Bootcamp.
That flyer…eww.
http://wilwheaton.tumblr.com/post/74101138843/laughterkey-tmills-taoistdrunk-spotted-in
I have an idea! MRAs worried about men-of-whatever-species dying earlier than the women should go and discuss this with some bull orcas.
Then why would they need to say he’s white? Also white privilege’s is not legitimate privileges?
Idk, it wasn’t very well phrased.
Personally, I’m allergic to the term “privilege” used in its made-up social justice context. I’m not saying that race/sex/orientation/etc. don’t ever confer minor benefits or drawbacks, but it’s all very secondary to wealth.