So the Men’s Rights movement has faced some setbacks in the past. The Southern Poverty Law Center profiling them as a movement filled with hate (if not literally a hate group by the SPLC’s strict definition). Events that literally no one showed up to. Paul Elam.
But MRAs have never faced anything quite like this.
Wil Wheaton — yes, that Wil Wheaton, the one who was on Star Trek TNG — has stated publicly that he thinks they’re a bunch of idiots:
https://twitter.com/wilw/status/348291001481310208
Naturally, this tweet has the fellas in the Men’s Rights subreddit feeling hurt and angry. Well, they always feel hurt and angry, so I guess I mean they feel even more hurt and angry than usual, with a lot of this hurt and anger directed in a Wil-Wheatony direction.
Here are some of their comments. I don’t really have any jokes to make about them because, I mean, just read them. I can’t top this sort of ridiculousness.
Click on the individual comments to see them in context on Reddit. Oh, and note that this comment at the top has MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED UPVOTES.
Wait. What is “hanglowstankin?” Oh, never mind.
Also, I would bet a mint-in-box Wesley Crusher action figure that Wheaton didn’t call you guys “idiots” because he wanted to pander to “pussy” but rather because you are the sorts of guys who routinely refer to women as “pussy.”
But Wil had one defender amongst the Men’s Rightsers:
EDIT: H/T to the AgainstMensRighters for pointing me to this.
No, no, the causality goes the other direction.
katz: Ah, see then, the solution to equalizing prison sentencing would be to have more female politicians.
Wait….
The issue with life expectancy is that it is an average, and so the longer one lives, the longer one is expected to live, because mortality sources and associated probabilities change with age. And if you live to be 75, then clearly you didn’t die at a younger age. But this is a mathematical argument and I don’t expect many MRAs to be able to understand it.
And, of course, shorter male life expectancy has *nothing* to do with the choices that males make that place them in greater harm’s way from avoidable causes of death: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1781916/
One of the interesting conclusions:
And salicfee is indeed Kitt. Either that or they’re BFFs with identical writing styles and opinions posting from the exact same location in Germany.
Oh, Kitt, all you had to do to stay unnbanned and make it through moderation was to actually read and respond to other people’s comments. And use the word “blorfle.” But instead you sockpuppeted, so you’re banned forever.
There would be a certain karmic fairness to a female politician getting sacked for inappropriately texting a young male staffer.
Sorryblorfle seems to be the hardest word …Only anti-trans feminists reduce gender to genitalia, not trans-supportive ones. You won’t find many anti-trans folks here. In any case, distinguishing between men and women is not sexist, and feminists don’t argue that their gender literally determines their views completely. It’s just that, in a society in which men have power for being men, they are more likely to work for policies that favor men, so the division is relevant for political analysis.
That’s not what feminists mean by “women are equal” in that context. It means that women are equally capable in the political sphere. Straw man.
No need to thank a smug dipshit like you. You have nothing interesting or valuable to say here.
Now shoo, kitt33.
My mourning period over losing Kitt was very brief.
I am a little taken aback that someone from Germany throws around the term “fascist” as an insult so easily. It’s not surprising when a lunkheaded American with no historical knowledge uses terms like fascist and nazi because they have no sense of the real history and import of those words. You’d think a German would know better, but Kitt was dolt and I guess that countered any cultural awareness.
Since BB69 has flounced, I’d like to point to one of his earlier posts.
buttboy69 on January 21, 2014 at 7:44 pm
He hates when people discuss other social oppressions on tumblr (and here) but he hangs on a board where a bunch of guys complain about how gendered oppression either ruined, or in the future will ruin, their lives. That makes a ton of sense.
@Brooked, just because Kitt33 is posting from Germany doesn’t mean he is German. Sounds more like a US-an currently located there, to me.
I remain confused as to what angry misogynists think feminists are supposed to do about the difference in lifespan between men and women. Are we just supposed to go kill some old ladies when they reach the average age at which men die?
Oh wow, that was some cute ideas about how class trumps anything.
Gee, it’s not like I became poor due to mental illness snowballing into disability into unemployment into homelessness or anything. And I’m sure those things had nothing to do with my being trans! (Though that’s complicated and massively subsumed in the multi.)
Nope, class doesn’t interact with ANYTHING.
What a priceless little wanker.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1vticq/commenters_at_manboobz_claim_that_im_engaging_in/
So Buttboy has decided rather than to directly respond to the various comments made in response to some of his posts, he would go cry wolf over on Reddit and just cherry pick comments out of context to make commenters look bad. Not sure how they think his comments are even worthy of elevating, but he’s against feminism and manboobz so I guess who cares wtf bullshit he writes (?) /MRA logic
Good riddance. Skeevy little creep.
@auggz
I don’t think that that’s really the case because that particular form of masculinity is not universal, but the gap in lifespans is. The universality of the gap makes me think biological moreso than cultural, but I haven’t done any research into the matter.
Typical, innit … they scream about BIOTRUTHS!!! and how things they claim are biology are cast-iron reasons why nothing should ever change. But mention something that’s 1) genuine biology and 2) isn’t in men’s favour, and it’s all frothrage about how it’s women’s fault.
I am sooooo surprised.
@kitteh’s
Yes, it’s been a shock for us all. I’ve been rending my clothes in grief myself. Now I can’t go out because the gynocratic femgovernment of Canada, led by that uberfeminist puppet Harper, has criminalized the male body in an attempt to increase the lifespan gap by even more decades. This is clearly an attempt to make sure men die as soon as we can no longer serve as boy-toys.
Absolutely.
And in the event you escape the Canadian FemoGynocracy, you’ll find yourself in the grip of their overlords, the Furrinati.
TAKE THE RED KIBBLE!
That’s why (well one of dozens) why they have earned zero credibility .Didn’t we just get a “fresh lecture” by but boy on how biologically different men and women are ? The testosterone rule ? How that in of itself sets also behaviors (hard wired of course) in motion ?
But then when one of their violations of their “human man rights” and on the list of their “oppressions ” is that on average men don’t live as long as women DO NOT mention any biological reasons hence unavoidable let alone any behaviors (free will chosen behaviors ) that contribute. Its has to be women are killing men off somehow because misandry . It has to be “inequality because feminist aren’t really about equality .”
This is #1 on the list of BROcialist issues. Gad, I have met those dudes way too often in my life.
The Constitution guarantees every man the right to life, liberty, and a pet lingerie model. Or at least it would if it wasn’t for misandry.
But it has to be lingerie from the time the Constitution was written. Also the personal hygien of that era.
Or hygiene, even.
And body hair standards too. 🙂
Lol! I’ll take her! Late 18th century corsets are awesome, and my thoughts on body hair are basically “yeah whatever” (except I have a weird thing against chest hair, this has somehow never really been an issue, idk how my ex BF’s have all been mostly hairless, but they have)
Now, a shower might be nice, but lady BO isn’t always foul so I guess it depends on the lady in question and just how long ago her last bath was.
It would be extra funny if the Constitution era woman these guys suddenly found on their doorstep was Abigail Adams.