If you live in New York state, you may have seen the poster above plastered on a bus shelter; or you may have seen it posted somewhere on the internet. The message is pretty simple, and it’s sad that it has to be said: kids are pretty impressionable, so teach your sons to treat women with basic respect.
The purpose of the ad campaign, sponsored by the New York state Office for the Prevention of Domestic Violence, is pretty clear as well: teaching boys respect for women lessens the chances that they will abuse women as adults.
Numerous studies have found that men with sexist attitudes towards women are more likely to try to control their wives or girlfriends with physical abuse. Indeed, one recent study even found that brief exposure to sexist jokes made men more inclined to brush off violence against women, at least amongst men with sexist attitudes to begin with.
Speaking of which, the sexist jokes over at A Voice for Men have unveiled a hilarious new “meme,” which just happens to be inspired by the “awaiting instructions” PSAs we’ve been discussing. And here it is:
The logic here is airtight: because some women get drunk and urinate in public, women don’t deserve respect.
I guess men never get drunk and urinate in public, or ever do anything vaguely embarrassing that gets caught on camera?
Is it really asking too much to respect people as people, foibles and all?
Because they know that some of us men are kinky that way?
@Diana Adams – I second your point that, even in cases where the women and girls are properly submissive and subservient, it won’t stop the husband/father/etc. from attacking them whenever he gets upset about something (if necessary, making up something so that he can get upset). Trying not to do TMI but, as I’ve stated before, my father was an MRA and my mother and I were VERY TO AN EXTREME-EXTREME submissive to him, revolving everything around doing anything to keep him as happy as possible (trust me, our motives on that were purely selfish), and still it wasn’t exactly harmony, peace and tranquility.
TL/DR Sadists will always be sadists, regardless as to the behaviour of any females around.
Women being submissive to a man who had blanket authority has never created harmony ,a harmonious society between men and women .
Just like slavery never created peace between master and slave.
I just wish we had tails, so we could quiver them like cats do when they’re spraying. Then other women further away could see it, laugh and say “Look, there’s a man being sprayed! Go sister!”
But I can’t imagine many “boys” happening upon a scene of “women” drunk, squat ,peeing in public. Let alone on any regular basis . Or if he knows “a” woman he has seen do something like that how that would cause him to lose respect for her let alone all women .
Ten-year-old boy raised by three drunk sorority girls = my new Fox sitcom. DIBS.
It may be worth noting that the “Awaiting Instructions” campaign ran back in 2007. MRAs have been fuming over this one for a good long time.
They do seem to have a long lead-time for their outrage, don’t they? Almost everything we’ve seen lately has been ad campaigns from 2009, 2007 …
Like Steven Universe, only the Crystal Gems have partying as their superpower.
@Shaenon – it ran in 2007? And, let’s see, Occidental College was how long ago? Maybe they’re angry because they’re so exhausted from time travelling to find things to complain about? Could be.
Just like slavery never created peace between master and slave.
Exactly. Such inequalities don’t lead to anything good let alone a harmony. I also don’t understand those men who would like a wife like that isn’t it much more fulfilling to have your equal as your partner a fellow human being.
@Diana Adams – You’re working off of a false assumption. The thing is, in their world, girls and women are not human beings – we are a lesser species that needs to be guided and fed and all of that, similar to a dog. Wouldn’t you rather have a nice, obedient, cheerful dog who knows that you are their superior and who will obey everything you say and look up to you and worship you? Or would you rather have a dog who will do what they want – which might or might not coincide with what you want them to do, and who feels and acts like they are your equal and should have an equal say in things? (Me, personally, I kinda like the latter and getting to be friends with them, but most people will quickly choose the former.)
Also, now’s a good time for the next Estonian lesson. 🙂 🙂 “Abielu” is the Estonian word for spouse/partner. It is simply a combination of two words – “abi” meaning “help” and “elu” meaning “life”, so a direct translation wouldn’t be “spouse”, but rather “life helper”. I’m very fond of this word.
Uh, no. Even if every single woman you’d EVER SEEN SO FAR had been gleefully pissing in the street, or worse – you still have to respect the NEXT woman you meet, to the same degree as you would respect anyone by virtue of being a human fucking being. You don’t get to judge new exemplars of a class of people by your previous experience with that class. Not without being an utter shitbag you don’t.
I have a friend who peed on the lawn in front of the Eiffel Tower… in broad daylight. Oddly, it makes me respect her MORE. 😀
Honestly, this is classic Angel in the House thinking. They’re interpreting respect for women to mean all that crap about women being more moral and responsible for upholding the virtue of a society, which these girls are therefore failing at by acting like drunk college kids just like their male peers.
I’m never sure if the disconnect with what feminists and other social justice oriented people mean by “respect” is a deliberate attempt at misdirection or if MRAs are just too stupid to understand that the word means slightly different things in different contexts. Could be either, or both, but the latter wouldn’t surprise me given how poor their linguistic skills are in general.
MRAs confound the saying about never attributing to malice what can be explained by stupidity, because they have both in spades.
I googled the number too, and the photo was taken in Frankston, Melbourne. So there is a bunch of classism mixed up in this too.
I read that “painter of light” Thomas Kinkade peed on a statue of Winnie the Pooh at Disneyland. But he wasn’t a woman. I have no other point in bringing this up other than I just remembered that I read that.
NO NO NO ! the one obscure article about forcing men to pee sitting down was only from about 2 years ago . You know the one that brought renewed outrage at women and guys were wanting to pee in a womans face and I think they even wanted to kill her ?
That article was from 2011 .
2011? My gosh, they’re moving at the speed of light here!
That’s pretty recent you have to admit . Especially since they had only linked that article all over the world 1,000 times to anyone I’m sure including their moms and 2nd cousins on FB already .
So they do new stuff. They keep up pretty good with misandry.
There is just too much misandry to keep up O:
@cassandrakitty – I thought you might like this (long, sorry) latest post on the AVfM article on this campaign:
I love that he has the usual MRA stuff for almost all of the post, then, at the beginning of the last paragraph, offers what I think is a good solution, then promptly races back to the safety of the MRA-thought, never noticing that he crossed the centre-line for a brief second.
Wow, so much MRA stupidity and fail in one comment. That bit about gay or lesbian relationships having more domestic violence than straight ones was priceless.
Of course even the “respect women as you respect men” would fail with this lot, because they hate men almost as much as they hate women – and that’s before we even get to the “especially if those men aren’t white, cis and straight” part.
They just looooove to claim victimhood, don’t they?
I wonder if it’s because they’re such utter wastes of space that even their white male privilege doesn’t help? Not good enough for the boys’ club, oh dear … how ragefrothy that must make them.
@kittehserf – I think you’re right. I. for one, love the idea he has for the change in wording, but no, I doubt the other MRAs will go for it.
And just to be totally professional, here is the link for that posting – http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/respect-a-meme/comment-page-1/#comment-203165
“That bit about gay or lesbian relationships having more domestic violence than straight ones was priceless.”
Yeah, that was my first thought, but having seen the CDC stats recently, I just checked and lesbians are a bit more likely to experience DV, gay men are 1% less likely than straight men, so I’ll chalk that one up to margin of error, but bisexuals? Gender moot, by far the most likely to experience DV. So um, maybe gender alone isn’t the variable here?
Randomly, my brother informs me that since Obama was elected Medicaid (or was it Medicare?) is paying twice as much on penis pumps. He was unsure if the cost rose, or more men failed to. What I want to know is in what fucking world the gov’n is paying for PENIS PUMPS while debating hormonal birth control.
Penis pumps…and VIAGRA. Meanwhile, let a woman require birth control pills, not even for birth control, but to regulate out-of-whack periods or hemorrhaging from fibroids, and their heads start to spin, and they vomit pea soup.
But men are so oppressed. By WOMEN.
/headdesk